What,s the longest commuter line Question

[Nightrider]

What is the longest electrified commuter line in the UK?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

I'd say something around Glasgow, failing that definately something into London. What do you define as 'Commuter Line'?

 

[rail-britain]

Edinburgh - Kings Cross
Glasgow - Euston

I know a lot of people "commute" between :
Newcastle - Kings Cross
Preston - Euston

 

[CarterUSM]

Not sure of UK but i think new north clyde- Airdrie- Bathgate-Edinburgh will be in Scotland anyway? Probably a line in the southeast though, Bedford to Brighton?

 

[Nightrider]

I'd say something around Glasgow, failing that definately something into London. What do you define as 'Commuter Line'?

A commuter line as in, from the suburbs into a major city as against inter-city.

 

[imagination]

It could be argued that the WCML from London to Birmingham is one long commuter line - the London commuter region ends at about the same point that the Birmingham commuter region begins.

 

[yorksrob]

Equally, the core of the Weymouth - Waterloo line shares some Inter-City characteristics. However, it was never included in the Inter City network, so it must be a contender.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Caambridge-Hitchin-Kings Cross
Plenty of IC services act as commuter trains too, look at the Trent Valley and places like Grantham in the early morning.
Manchester-Macclesfield-Stoke
Lots of lines to Cannon St/Charing Cross/London Bridge too

 

[imagination]

Plenty of IC services act as commuter trains too, look at the Trent Valley and places like Grantham in the early morning.

Reading is the best example of that. Though the GWML is disqualified from this thread as it isn't electrified.

 

[Zoe]

Reading is the best example of that. Though the GWML is disqualified from this thread as it isn't electrified.

It is as far as Airport Junction.

 

[TGV]

While people commute long distances on ECML and WCML, I don't think they class as a typical commuter line.

I'd say Weymouth to Waterloo

or

Kings Lynn to Kings Cross

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Portsmouth-Waterloo via Haslemere was never IC, as wasn't Dover/Ramsgate etc-London...

 

[imagination]

It is as far as Airport Junction.

Yes but on a thread about longest commuter lines, Hayes and Harlington - Paddington doesn't deserve much of a mention

 

[Lee_Again]

If the definition of 'commuter' line is one where a season ticket can be purchased (not the ALR) then I think Berwick>Kings Cross is about the longest; it's electified too!!

Not sure what the annual fare is. Maybe someone could look it up in the fares manual.

 

[Zoe]

If the definition of 'commuter' line is one where a season ticket can be purchased (not the ALR) then I think Berwick>Kings Cross is about the longest; it's electified too!!

You can get a season ticket to cover the entire GWML from Penzance to Paddington via Bristol but as stated above this doesn't count as it's not electrified. I doubt anyone has this ticket in any case though as you wouldn't commute from Penzance to London every day.

 

[EWS 58038]

I have never been to London, But I'dd say it must be the Waterloo and City line.....






Running to the toilet before peeing in his pans...

 

[Bittern]

The Paisley Canal line.

 

[Lee_Again]

You can get a season ticket to cover the entire GWML from Penzance to Paddington via Bristol but as stated above this doesn't count as it's not electrified. I doubt anyone has this ticket in any case though as you wouldn't commute from Penzance to London every day.

But Penzance is about 30 miles closer.

I can't even begin to imagine the allowed routes on the Berwick ticket. I suspect most of England is covered. I wouldn't mind knowing how far down the GWML you could go.

 

[Zoe]

But Penzance is about 30 miles closer.

I can't even begin to imagine the allowed routes on the Berwick ticket. I suspect most of England is covered. I wouldn't mind knowing how far down the GWML you could go.

I expect you'd be allowed to use the entire GWML from Paddington to Penzance via Bristol, this is over 325 miles. King's Cross to Berwick is only about 5 miles longer.

 

[jopsuk]

Caambridge-Hitchin-Kings Cross

Cambridge? Try Kings Lynn- there's people commute the whole way- 1hr 50min (peak)- to Kings Cross. None of your fancy intercity trains- Class 365 Networkers.

There's also a pair of trains to Liverpool Street- though I doubt anyone does the full 2hrs 15min on the 317? Entertaingly, there's actually three services in the other direction in the evening peak...

 

[Lee_Again]

I expect you'd be allowed to use the entire GWML from Paddington to Penzance via Bristol, this is over 325 miles. King's Cross to Berwick is only about 5 miles longer.

Yes, but by that logic you could include Berwick to Kings Cross via Birmingham. Anyway you cut it, the Berwick ticket is the longer than Penzance. I take your point though. That's why I asked about the valid routes from Berwick.

 

[rail-britain]

British Rail used to classify any journey up to 1 hour as a commute
Therefore this would be quite a fair usage across any route

 

[Zoe]

Yes, but by that logic you could include Berwick to Kings Cross via Birmingham. Anyway you cut it, the Berwick ticket is the longer than Penzance. I take your point though. That's why I asked about the valid routes from Berwick.

Well the question was about lines. The GWML is one line from Paddington to Penzance via Bristol. King's Cross to Berwick via Birmingham is not one line.

 

[Lee_Again]

British Rail used to classify any journey up to 1 hour as a commute
Therefore this would be quite a fair usage across any route

What's the furthest you can get from London in 60 mins. The fastest I can find for Grantham is 61 mins to that's out. Peterborough is about 76 miles. Maybe there is a longer commute (<1hr).

 

[MidnightFlyer]

You an do Tamworth at one hour on the dot from Euston methinks.

 

[Lee_Again]

Well the question was about lines. The GWML is one line from Paddington to Penzance via Bristol. King's Cross to Berwick via Birmingham is not one line.

I give up

 

[Zoe]

What's the furthest you can get from London in 60 mins. The fastest I can find for Grantham is 61 mins to that's out. Peterborough is about 76 miles. Maybe there is a longer commute (<1hr).

London to Swindon is 77 miles with a journey time of 1 hour. It's also one of the most expensive commutes for a 1 hour journey.

 

[wibble]

If the definition of 'commuter' line is one where a season ticket can be purchased (not the ALR) then I think Berwick>Kings Cross is about the longest; it's electified too!!

Not sure what the annual fare is. Maybe someone could look it up in the fares manual.

To London: £17,516
To Zones 1-6: £18,084
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What is the longest electrified commuter line in the UK?

The answer would be different to what it was at privatisation as people are more willing to travel further for work.

I saw the same people on my train when I commuted to London from Bournemouth and Birmingham. With the frequency of services on longer distance routes, anywhere within 2 hours of London could be classed as a commuter line.

 

[jopsuk]

You an do Tamworth at one hour on the dot from Euston methinks.

Can you make Euston in an hour or less before 9am?

 

[wibble]

Can you make Euston in an hour or less before 9am?

The only direct morning trains on Virgin are:
0647 - 0757 (1hr 10min)
0715 - 0822 (1hr 7min)