Aiming to travel on Class 321 units

[Class360/1]

It's great, as it makes it fun for nerds like me to spot these little unique details.

I know, when me and my brother spotted that we were very interested- each time i go past something railway related I notice something different!

 

[221101 Voyager]

I know, when me and my brother spotted that we were very interested- each time i go past something railway related I notice something different!

Just wondering, what differences are there between an standard 321/3 and a 321/4?

 

[Class360/1]

Just wondering, what differences are there between an standard 321/3 and a 321/4?

I’m not too sure- @class321 would be an expert on that matter!

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Just wondering, what differences are there between an standard 321/3 and a 321/4?

The main difference, as built was the enlarged first class saloon on the 321/4's

My notes are in store and not easily accessible

 

[221101 Voyager]

The main difference, as built was the enlarged first class saloon on the 321/4's

My notes are in store and not easily accessible

Ah ok, thanks.

I'd better get a trip on one at some point then!

 

[class321]

Just wondering, what differences are there between an standard 321/3 and a 321/4?

Not much, just an enlarged first class area and some of them having spotty seats instead of striped ones.

I’m not too sure- @class321 would be an expert on that matter!

I tend not to look at other trains and focus my interests on the 321 only. I am an expert on the 321, but I don't know much about other trains. That's why I'm an expert on the 321.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Not much, just an enlarged first class area and some of them having spotty seats instead of striped ones.

Ah ok, next time I go I'd better get one of those!

 

[class321]

Ah ok, next time I go I'd better get one of those!

You have until 31st may my bro and there is only 10 of them left (421, 423, 424, 426, 427, 428, 429, 432, 434, 436)

 

[Class360/1]

You have until 31st may my bro and there is only 10 of them left (421, 423, 424, 426, 427, 428, 429, 432, 434, 436)

I hope the units with the NXEA (full) livery and the first capital connect (debranded) units are the last to go- as they have the best liveries.

 

[class321]

I hope the units with the NXEA (full) livery and the first capital connect (debranded) units are the last to go- as they have the best liveries.

100%. So far gone from those liveries:
NXEA: Gone = 430, 431 Active = 424, 426, 427, 428, 429
FCC: Gone = 401, 403, 404, 418, 420 Active = 402, 405, 406, 407, 409, 410, 419

 

[Class360/1]

100%. So far gone from those liveries:
NXEA: Gone = 430, 431 Active = 424, 426, 427, 428, 429
FCC: Gone = 401, 403, 404, 418, 420 Active = 402, 405, 406, 407, 409, 410, 419

At least most of the liveries are active! I’ve still got a week and two days left of the holidays, so I am planning to ride more units, shame the /3’s are more popular

 

[class321]

At least most of the liveries are active! I’ve still got a week and two days left of the holidays, so I am planning to ride more units, shame the /3’s are more popular

Yh, I prefer the /4 over the /3's can't lie.

 

[Class360/1]

Yh, I prefer the /4 over the /3's can't lie.

Sadly my last rides on the /4’a were a couple of years ago and I can’t remember them , they have just sent me annoying /3’s

 

[class321]

Sadly my last rides on the /4’a were a couple of years ago and I can’t remember them , they have just sent me annoying /3’s

I rode 3 /4s yesterday 434, 436, 419.

 

[221101 Voyager]

You have until 31st may my bro and there is only 10 of them left (421, 423, 424, 426, 427, 428, 429, 432, 434, 436)

Ah that explains why I didn't see many of them.

 

[class321]

Ah that explains why I didn't see many of them.

I must have got lucky yesterday as I came across 434, 436 and 423 .

 

[Class360/1]

I’m hoping to go to north fambridge next week, not sure when but I Will have to ride on 3 different trains each direction!

 

[class321]

I’m hoping to go to north fambridge next week, not sure when but I Will have to ride on 3 different trains each direction!

Is north fambridge near Southminster?

 

[Class360/1]

Is north fambridge near Southminster?

Yes

 

[class321]

Ah that explains why I didn't see many of them.

Pick a unit out of the ones I listed and go on the urgent tops request and ask for its diagram for the day you are going to go on the train .

 

[Bikeman78]

100%. So far gone from those liveries:
NXEA: Gone = 430, 431 Active = 424, 426, 427, 428, 429
FCC: Gone = 401, 403, 404, 418, 420 Active = 402, 405, 406, 407, 409, 410, 419

The bogies on 321419 are spotless; it looks ex works. I'd like to think that will be one of the last non PRM units to go.

 

[Class360/1]

The bogies on 321419 are spotless; it looks ex works. I'd like to think that will be one of the last non PRM units to go.

I suppose they dispose units that are non prm compliant and have a high mileage first

 

[class321]

The bogies on 321419 are spotless; it looks ex works. I'd like to think that will be one of the last non PRM units to go.

And they are one of the loudest units ever. I went on 419 on the 1st and the transformer sounded like my hair trimmer.

 

[Bikeman78]

I suppose they dispose units that are non prm compliant and have a high mileage first

Agreed so 321419 will be very low mileage in terms of running gear. The bogies look so shiny that it looks like they were done this year which surprises me, given the the 31st May deadline.

And they are one of the loudest units ever. I went on 419 on the 1st and the transformer sounded like my hair trimmer.

I did it LST-CHM the day before. Bailed off there for 321424 to Clacton. Going through my records I noticed that I'd never been to Clacton on a 321 so that was hastily corrected.

 

[class321]

Agreed so 321419 will be very low mileage in terms of running gear. The bogies look so shiny that it looks like they were done this year which surprises me, given the the 31st May deadline.

I did it LST-CHM the day before. Bailed off there for 321424 to Clacton. Going through my records I noticed that I'd never been to Clacton on a 321 so that was hastily corrected.

I haven't been beyond Shenfield before. I have been on 321424 twice, a good unit. I don't pay attention to the bogies, just the motor and the funny door alarm.

 

[Bikeman78]

I haven't been beyond Shenfield before.

Probably worth doing sooner rather than later. It's still possible to do all Great Eastern routes out as far as Ipswich on a 321. I've never done Harwich, Walton on the Naze or Southminster on one.

 

[Class360/1]

Probably worth doing sooner rather than later. It's still possible to do all Great Eastern routes out as far as Ipswich on a 321. I've never done Harwich, Walton on the Naze or Southminster on one.

I’ve yet to use the Southend and south monster branch lines, hoping to do north fambridge in a fortnights time

 

[class321]

Probably worth doing sooner rather than later. It's still possible to do all Great Eastern routes out as far as Ipswich on a 321. I've never done Harwich, Walton on the Naze or Southminster on one.

I just don't have time to go that far because of my A levels and that.

 

[class321]

I’ve yet to use the Southend and south monster branch lines, hoping to do north fambridge in a fortnights time

I think I have done southend before.

 

[class321]

Probably worth doing sooner rather than later. It's still possible to do all Great Eastern routes out as far as Ipswich on a 321. I've never done Harwich, Walton on the Naze or Southminster on one.

Now that all the Class 360's (I think that's what they are called) have all gone, all lines are 321 720 so yh, you can do all on a 321.