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Dallamlad

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mbonwick said:
Not going to happen though, service registration has to be completed a month before commencement.
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Indeed unless there is a way of launching emergency services. I am told you don't have to register a service if it is a Private Hire contract, so, in theory SC could could run private hire contracts to Sellafield. I'm not sure how dodgy this is lol ;)
 
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been told that Reays have 7 60 reg buses on their new services in Carlisle, along with a single 57 reg. i will be in Carlisle myself on monday to see what is going on.

quick summary of the "competition" so far:
* Stagecoach Carlisle Citi DayRider £2.90. Reays DailyHopper £2.95
* Stagecoach Carlisle Citi Megarider £9.50. Reays WeeklyHopper Ticket £8.95. (if you're wanting to travel after 6pm, then you'd better get Stagecoach, cos Reays don't run any evening slots, and their tickets are not valid on Stagecoach services).
* Stagecoach services running with 38 seat Darts. Reays running with 28 seat Plaxton Primo's
* Stagecoach Carlisle Citi running between up to every 7 minutes and up to every 20 minutes. Reays half hourly (63 & 64) and hourly on contracted 75.
* Reays have longer routes, but timetabled to take the same journey length as Stagecoach (? i'm confused with that as well). Reays have 50 minutes timetabled for Morton Park - Morton West - Sandsfield Park - Bellevue - Cumberland Infirmary (why hospital patients would want to go to ASDA i have no idea) - City Centre - St Anns Hill - Lowry Hill - Kingstown Broadway - ASDA. whilst Stagecoach have timetabled 50 minutes for Morton Park - Denton Holme - City Centre - Lowry hill - ASDA.

potential passengers have already been commenting on the length of Reays services, saying they should take more direct routes, as passengers from Botcherby (Botherby according to Reays) going to Cumberland Infirmary don't want to trail around Harraby East, Harraby and Upperby when they could take more direct routes on Stagecoach (albeit with a bus change along the way).
 
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cainebj said:
...potential passengers have already been commenting on the length of Reays services, saying they should take more direct routes, as passengers from Botcherby (Botherby according to Reays) going to Cumberland Infirmary don't want to trail around Harraby East, Harraby and Upperby when they could take more direct routes on Stagecoach (albeit with a bus change along the way).
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The 63 runs both ways round the Botcherby - Harraby - Upperby loop, so there is a Reays bus every 30 minutes direct (well, the same as Stagecoach 76) into town, and then on to the Infirmary. What the 63 and 64 are doing is giving many parts of the city direct links to the Infirmary.

having the 63 nunbered as 63 regardless of the direction taken around the loop is a bit strange, especially as they leave West Tower Street within 5 minutes of each other.
 
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madannie77 said:
The 63 runs both ways round the Botcherby - Harraby - Upperby loop, so there is a Reays bus every 30 minutes direct (well, the same as Stagecoach 76) into town, and then on to the Infirmary. What the 63 and 64 are doing is giving many parts of the city direct links to the Infirmary.

having the 63 nunbered as 63 regardless of the direction taken around the loop is a bit strange, especially as they leave West Tower Street within 5 minutes of each other.
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main point was if they missed the more direct one to Cumberland Infirmary, they'd have to get the next one, which would drag them around those areas, or wait 30 minutes for the next more direct one.

having it numbered 63 on both circles is a bit odd, don't think Reays have thought of calling them 63 and 63A :roll:
 
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Reays Primos in Carlisle today were:

Route 64 branded

KX57FKV (with screen not working)
YX60DXB
YX60DXF
YX60DXHH

Route 63 branded

YX60DXA
YX60DXC
YX60DXD
YX60DXE

As well as the two 75 Primos PX10ABZ and PX10ACF.

Does anyone know if there is a YX60DXG?

Some Stagecoach workings today:

Nothing unusual on the Citi Routes: AD Darts all the way

14202, 14232, 14247, 16330, 16337, 16441, 16870, 20895 and 52627 on schools

15684, 15685, 15686 and 16651 on 300s
20924 on a 300
20965 on 93 then 38s
20451 on a short 62 then 79/179 all day
42094 on 69
16397 on 554
20904 and 20907 on 94s
20994 on 600
52409 and 52626 on 685

Lots of Stagecoach people with clipboards in the city centre and at the infirmary most of the day as well!
 
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darrenw29 said:
20128 been over at Vosa Lillyhall this morning
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How long does it take to MOT a bus it's been up there for over a week?
I am going to upload a picture in a bit of what remains of 16655 and a it looks like 16185 is going to get an engine put in.
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madannie77 said:
Reays Primos in Carlisle today were:

Route 64 branded

KX57FKV (with screen not working)
YX60DXB
YX60DXF
YX60DXHH

Route 63 branded

YX60DXA
YX60DXC
YX60DXD
YX60DXE

As well as the two 75 Primos PX10ABZ and PX10ACF.

Does anyone know if there is a YX60DXG?

Some Stagecoach workings today:

Nothing unusual on the Citi Routes: AD Darts all the way

14202, 14232, 14247, 16330, 16337, 16441, 16870, 20895 and 52627 on schools

15684, 15685, 15686 and 16651 on 300s
20924 on a 300
20965 on 93 then 38s
20451 on a short 62 then 79/179 all day
42094 on 69
16397 on 554
20904 and 20907 on 94s
20994 on 600
52409 and 52626 on 685

Lots of Stagecoach people with clipboards in the city centre and at the infirmary most of the day as well!
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It looks like 14202 and 14208 are the only 142xx J-HFR leyland olympians still in service.
 
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jonesy3001 said:
It looks like 14202 and 14208 are the only 142xx J-HFR leyland olympians still in service.
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14199 still on the go as well at Kendal.
14202 was given an extended stay after 14260 partially de-roofed itself. its thought it will be withdrawn later in the year when a Trident moves up for 554, if one definately does move up!
 
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cainebj said:
14199 still on the go as well at Kendal.
14202 was given an extended stay after 14260 partially de-roofed itself. its thought it will be withdrawn later in the year when a Trident moves up for 554, if one definately does move up!
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I forgot about 14199, it might either 17019 which is already withdrawn and/or 17022 that will probably be withdrawn when 15679 comes back from Wales and they down for prepping for repaint.
 
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jonesy3001 said:
I forgot about 14199, it might either 17019 which is already withdrawn and/or 17022 that will probably be withdrawn when 15679 comes back from Wales and they down for prepping for repaint.
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Great, could be both go to CE. Carlisle run some 300's so would be handy to have another Trident around so they could operate it 100% LF.

Glad 16185 is getting an engine. Imagine it will go to Preston when its finished.

18008 still hanging around!

16655 looks well and truly dead lol!
 
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Dallamlad said:
Great, could be both go to CE. Carlisle run some 300's so would be handy to have another Trident around so they could operate it 100% LF.

Glad 16185 is getting an engine. Imagine it will go to Preston when its finished.

18008 still hanging around!

16655 looks well and truly dead lol!
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18008 has a water leak that is why it's hanging around and i have noticed in the upstairs front windows is where they keep the cctv screen and the carlisle bodylads have been down this week to take the dashboard and o/s corner out for 16338.
 
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Dallamlad said:
Great, could be both go to CE. Carlisle run some 300's so would be handy to have another Trident around so they could operate it 100% LF.

Glad 16185 is getting an engine. Imagine it will go to Preston when its finished.

18008 still hanging around!

16655 looks well and truly dead lol!
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Considering how much of 16655 was used on other buses at least it totally didn't go to waste :)
 
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Chris26584 said:
Considering how much of 16655 was used on other buses at least it totally didn't go to waste :)
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14208-cab window
16294-N/S window
16338-O/S corner and dashboard
16659-N/S corner
16660-Rear Axle
16666-Front Bumper
16667-Gearbox
I think the other window went into another volvo, the seats are on the balcony and the engine is still in the bodyshop.
 
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22805 limped into stand 12 before failing completely while working a 4. Inspectors looking in the engine with torches, so not a simple fault I assume.

16660 sat on stand 16 (unusual), and the windscreen repair peoples van was park on the North side as well....

18366s turbo sounding ill on 556, other than that, not a lot.
 
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jonesy3001 said:
14208-cab window
16294-N/S window
16338-O/S corner and dashboard
16659-N/S corner
16660-Rear Axle
16666-Front Bumper
16667-Gearbox
I think the other window went into another volvo, the seats are on the balcony and the engine is still in the bodyshop.
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A lot of those seats lying around allover the north west!!!

I noticed the screen on the upper deck of 18008 in your picture!
 
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last day of sellafield subsidized services today after 40 years the very last stagecoach bus to go on to the site will be tonights shift bus then thats it finished. i asked one of the park and ride drivers from reays about there express busses being withdrawn he said they dont no whats hapenning yet some might still be running but he wasent to sure. the driver of my bus home said stagecoach wernt putting any more routes on yet. thanks to who ever it was who told me about 85 coming through seaton i got a timetable booklet today
 
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jonesy3001 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-11455276
Spotted this on the beeb website looks like an ex Bullocks/Manchester bus.
The L.E.D blinds on the 04 plates solo's are mobi-tec's and i dont think they will be changing them yet as they use a company from oldham to repair them if anything goes wrong unlike the Hanovers that are made down south.
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What a nasty accident!!!

Ahhhhhh I see! I hope they do some work on those solos soon they are looking tatty :(
 
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