New station/bus interchange for Bow Street

[Llandudno]

Is the bus from the uni going to be diverted or extended to the new station, to encourage use?

Doubt it, since when did TfW/WAG try to integrate/coordinate bus and rail services.

Most buses in Llandudno Junction for example, no longer serve the dedicated bus stop and shelter outside the station entrance!

 

[SargeNpton]

Is the bus from the uni going to be diverted or extended to the new station, to encourage use?

The new station is supposed to have a bus stop, so it would be logical for a bus to run between there and the campus.

 

[Chezni]

The new station is supposed to have a bus stop, so it would be logical for a bus to run between there and the campus.

Lloyd's Coaches Bus Services T2, X28 are to be operated into Bow St Station once its opened

 

[Baxenden Bank]

RealTimeTrains now has passenger calls for Sunday 14th February, so I guess that's the date, 0912 if anyone happens to be in the area.

The identified future user of the station will be able to visit her mum up in Borth (you need to read the Facebook thread about the station opening to understand that point).

Apparantly, an 'NMU' facility has been constructed alongside the A4159 between the station and the university campus at Plas Gogerddan. Probably visible on Google satellite but not streetview. The distance is under a mile (approx 1.25km) so walkable for many. An 'NMU' is a Non Motorised User, rather than a tug and barges which would be a Nautical Multiple Unit.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Just our of sheer interest from part of the title of this thread with just over a week to go, what was the official final outcome decided on "the bus interchange"?

 

[PeterC]

Lloyd's Coaches Bus Services T2, X28 are to be operated into Bow St Station once its opened

So just the existing routes that between Aber and Macky.

 

[Llanigraham]

Just our of sheer interest from part of the title of this thread with just over a week to go, what was the official final outcome decided on "the bus interchange"?

It's an off-road bus stop so that people can change from one to the other.

 

[Chezni]

So just the existing routes that between Aber and Macky.

Peter, Lloyd's only operate 2 routes through Bow St. X28 Aberystwyth to Machynlleth & Trawscymru T2 Aberystwyth to Bangor, both are scheduled to operate via new rail stn Interchange once it opens.

 

[Kite159]

Apparantly, an 'NMU' facility has been constructed alongside the A4159 between the station and the university campus at Plas Gogerddan. Probably visible on Google satellite but not streetview. The distance is under a mile (approx 1.25km) so walkable for many. An 'NMU' is a Non Motorised User, rather than a tug and barges which would be a Nautical Multiple Unit

Otherwise known as a pavement?

 

[CardiffKid]

Otherwise known as a pavement?

To go with the transport interchange which to the ordinary person is a railway station, next to a bus stop with a cycle rack.

 

[PeterC]

Peter, Lloyd's only operate 2 routes through Bow St. X28 Aberystwyth to Machynlleth & Trawscymru T2 Aberystwyth to Bangor, both are scheduled to operate via new rail stn Interchange once it opens.

In other words what I said.

 

[Llanigraham]

In other words what I said.

But there is no-where else for the buses to go to. To the east of the main road there is nothing other than a big mountain, no villages or anything, and to the west the coast and only Borth, which also has it's own station.

 

[Baxenden Bank]

Otherwise known as a pavement?

Indeed, also known as a footway or for any american readers a sidewalk. The fancy version, as built here, would be a shared use pavement or shared use footway.
NMU had me baffled for a while, I really ought to keep up with the latest trends.

 

[LSWR Cavalier]

NMU, non-motorised user facility, a way to get harmless walkers and cyclists out of the way of motors
Can be unpleasant and dangerous, cyclists doing 20 kmh and walkers doing 5 kmh should be separated from each other

 

[Llanigraham]

I suspect the difference may be that pavements are generally immediately to the side of a road, but I think part of this "walking route" is behind a hedge and away from the road.

 

[DaveHarries]

NMU, non-motorised user facility, a way to get harmless walkers and cyclists out of the way of motors
Can be unpleasant and dangerous, cyclists doing 20 kmh and walkers doing 5 kmh should be separated from each other

I can't help thinking that cyclists should be segregated: the electric bikes that seem to be available nowadays go stupidly fast.

Dave

 

[Techniquest]

Segregation of pedestrians and cyclists would also be welcomed by cyclists, so we don't have dog walkers and pushchair parades blocking the entire path and not moving over when they should. Free range children running in front of cyclists is a common danger too, how that little girl didn't get mowed down I don't know...

I've had to resort to riding on the main roads instead and leave the traffic-free paths behind. Mighty fed up of the aforementioned fools, plus joggers/runners who seem to insist in doing so double-breast across the path and not hearing many rings of the bell with their earphones in. Plus an increasing roaming of teenager gangs playing their 'music' out loud and being a general nuisance...

So yes, giving pedestrians and cyclists their own routes each would help a lot. In defence of pedestrians (I walk as well as cycle) I will say some cyclists need to actually pay attention to dismount signs on narrow paths. And not ride on pavements not allocated to shared use, and for that matter riding with no lights on, with headphones on.

I seriously fail to understand why so many cyclists have earphones/over-the-head headphones on during their ride. It's incredibly dangerous, and if the ride is that boring that music is needed I would suggest selling the bike and finding a new method of travelling.

Back to the new station though, now I've aired many thoughts on NMU. Seriously, what a ridiculous term...While the new station will be of no use to me, I am happy to hear it is finally nearly open. Post-pandemic I suspect it will get plenty of use, and that bus link up towards the coast will be handy to avoid having to change in Aber for it. Of course there's also the rail option for the bigger places up the coast.

Here's to another new station!

 

[bluenoxid]

Office of Rail and Road have just signed off the appropriate authorisations so another possible issue that could delay the opening of the station has been removed

 

[PHILIPE]

Open today

 

[Parallel]

Open today

Can’t wait to make a visit when leisure travel is permitted again.

 

[Llandudno]

When a new station opens there is usually a flurry of photographers and local politicians.

Was there anyone present to greet the first train and did anyone board or alight making an ‘essential’ journey?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Can’t wait to make a visit when leisure travel is permitted again.

... I think you’ll be underwhelmed. It’s a single platform and a car park in the middle of nowhere.

 

[pdeaves]

When a new station opens there is usually a flurry of photographers and local politicians.

Was there anyone present to greet the first train and did anyone board or alight making an ‘essential’ journey?

Formalities for Sunday openings are usually on Monday morning (or a convenient time before first public service). I would expect the press release and accompanying photographs to appear mid-morning tomorrow.

 

[Ianno87]

Formalities for Sunday openings are usually on Monday morning (or a convenient time before first public service). I would expect the press release and accompanying photographs to appear mid-morning tomorrow.

With the usual make-sure-everybody-is-exactly-2-metres-apart photo opportunity.

 

[seagull]

Well, the train certainly won't be driven by the same driver (now passed away) who, when Aberdyfi station inaugurated its new Harrington Hump at the south end of the platform, with various dignitaries and well-to-do stood waiting for the ceremonial first passenger to use it, managed to forget it was being opened that day and drove straight past to the north end of same platform, which had been the temporary stopping place for a few weeks...

 

[Ianno87]

Well, the train certainly won't be driven by the same driver (now passed away) who, when Aberdyfi station inaugurated its new Harrington Hump at the south end of the platform, with various dignitaries and well-to-do stood waiting for the ceremonial first passenger to use it, managed to forget it was being opened that day and drove straight past to the north end of same platform, which had been the temporary stopping place for a few weeks...

Or at Sandwell & Dudley, where the driver forgot to stop entirely!

 

[Meole]

Station reopening at Bow Street brings first trains for 56 years

The new station opening was kept under wraps so people were not temped to break lockdown rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

Station reopening at Bow Street brings first trains for 56 years​

There was little fanfare when the 09:12 GMT service from Machynlleth to Aberystwyth stopped to pick up passengers at the Ceredigion village for the first time since 1965.

The £8m project to reopen the station on the Cambrian Line that connects Aberystwyth and Pwllheli to Birmingham and Shrewsbury has been 11 years in the making.

Pre-Covid estimates made for the Welsh Government suggested Bow Street station would "generate" 30,000 annual trips and take nearly 466,000 vehicle miles (750,000km) off the local road network a year - helping reduce carbon emissions and congestion and parking issues in nearby Aberystwyth.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Station reopening at Bow Street brings first trains for 56 years

The new station opening was kept under wraps so people were not temped to break lockdown rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

Station reopening at Bow Street brings first trains for 56 years​

By Peter Shuttleworth

That article says that what Aberystwyth folk really want is the reinstatement of the Aber-Carmarthen route to the South Wales main line, costed at £755m.
Then they blame the UK government for "withholding" £5 billion of rail spending for Wales over the next 10 years.
There's no end to the begging bowls.

"The railway project people in Aberystwyth really want is the reopening of the line to Carmarthen and the south Wales main line," he said. "But that is massive, massive investment."
About £755m to be precise, according to a feasibility study published in 2018.
Travelling between Aberystwyth and Carmarthen on the train currently takes about six hours compared with an hour and a half in the car - and the line is one of many across Wales people want to reopen.

The Welsh Government states railway infrastructure is the UK government's "responsibility" and Mr Waters said it was money ministers in Cardiff Bay "don't have".
It is hoped the new station could reduce traffic pressure in Aberystwyth
"I understand the strong wishes to do something to reinstate it," said Mr Price. "But people will also understand that at the minute the significant cost involved."
But Transport for Wales engineers are looking at "slightly different railway technologies" to reinstate routes in "a more cost-effective way".

 

[topydre]

The local county councillor managed to get some pictures of the first train calling. They're available on his facebook: facebook.com/paul.hinge.3

 

[Andy Pacer]

Local resident not happy

New station 'making my life hell', says neighbour | cambrian-news.co.uk

A HOMEOWNER has plastered a wall of his house with the words ‘Welcome to Hell’, which will now greet passengers to the new multi-million-pound station at Bow Street, after saying the development has “destroyed” his quality of life.

www.cambrian-news.co.uk

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Hefin Jones lives at Werndeg, a detached home that used to back on to green fields but is now a close neighbour to a railway platform, car park, bus stop, an electricity sub-station and cycle racks, since the project was completed.

Mr Jones has railed against the plans since they were announced, and similarly daubed his property 18 months ago as work began.

As the first train rolled into the station to much fanfare from transport chiefs, politicians and councillors last weekend, Mr Jones’ home was daubed with the message “Welcome to Hell”.

He told the Cambrian News that his life had become “hell” with the station completed, and wanted to send a message to authorities over having a station just around 60m from his home.

“It is hell,” Mr Jones said.

“At 5.15am the first train comes in and wakes me up with the beep beep of the doors and the engines.

“I may as well be sleeping on the platform. I will have to live with this station on my doorstep for the foreseeable future, but it has destroyed what is supposed to be a family home.”