MackTen
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Americans don't do a lot well, but I've always loved their train names.
Even "Amtrack" still feels amazingly modern.
Even "Amtrack" still feels amazingly modern.
Interesting you should say that. I think it sounds extremely outdated. Then again, that might just be because I’ve seen their tin can trains.Americans don't do a lot well, but I've always loved their train names.
Even "Amtrack" still feels amazingly modern.
I’ve always liked the names of specific express services, like the Flying Scotsman, the Pallentine etc. Even Trans Pennine Express is a good name - probably the best one out there right now. I’d like there to be an overarching brand for intercity services that use HS2 infrastructure. Perhaps ‘Intercity’ might be it, but it would be better to get something original.
Licence "ICE" off Germany?
Wouldn’t be original though. Eurostar was an original name and it is pretty good. Like with anything European, sections of the press would no doubt have ridiculed it, but it is fairly iconic now.

I do hope that if the trend continues in the order it's doing now, we're in store for a BR branding renaissance soon.
I would say it does make sense to bring back a unified rail brand, though I agree Scotland and Wales should maintain their own brand and control. National Rail makes the most sense to do that with in England imo as it's already somewhat established and has their foot in the door already, any nationalisation would probably stem from them anyway.But then does it really make sense to bring back "British" Rail, when transport is devolved and presumably ScotRail and TfW will keep their own branding?
Maybe National Rail might make more sense then English Rail (or similar), but as a comparison the Highways Agency was renamed Highways England now that Scotland and Wales look after their own roads. Although just before Christmas we found out that the government wants to rebrand it again to "National Highways", which of course drew complaints from the devolved nations (and for being a huge waste of money).
Eurostar wasn't an original name. It was already registered by the Italians from memory.Wouldn’t be original though. Eurostar was an original name and it is pretty good. Like with anything European, sections of the press would no doubt have ridiculed it, but it is fairly iconic now.
I second this, maybe with a few colour variants for different operating areas/types of service.I like the Britsh Rail symbol being in a circle, it makes it look more modern.
ScotRail was a British Rail brand anywayBut then does it really make sense to bring back "British" Rail, when transport is devolved and presumably ScotRail and TfW will keep their own branding?
I suppose "National Rail" really is best suited, boring as it may be. Other names just end up sounding silly (but it's still great fun coming up with them):
ICR (InterCity Rail), ICX (pronounced as InterCity X), ICS (InterCity Swift, InterCity Sprinter, InterCity Speed or InterCity Speedbird), ICH (Intercity High Speed), Cross Country Express (that name would have to be purchased), Cross Country Sprinter or National Sprinter, Network InterCity, Network Express, Trans Capital Connect, InterCapital Connect or Cross Capital Connect, TransNational Express, Union Express, InterCity Central, InterCity Connect etc.
Going with foreign-sounding brand names: InterCity Volante, InterCity Rapide, InterCity Royale etc.
I prefer "English Railways""Rail England" may be worth considering, as the devolved administrations are not going to want to rename theirs.
Going by recent DfT thinking which resulted in the Highways Agency becoming Highways England maybe we might see "Trains England".I prefer "English Railways"
That just sounds juvenile!Going by recent DfT thinking which resulted in the Highways Agency becoming Highways England maybe we might see "Trains England".
Going by recent DfT thinking which resulted in the Highways Agency becoming Highways England maybe we might see "Trains England".

Don't give them ideasThat was where I got "Rail England" from. They haven't called it "Cars England"?![]()
Yep, let's hope they realise that and consign it to the bin!That just sounds juvenile!
'English' TOCs eg GWR, XC and Avanti still provide services for many journeys within Wales, and the 'Welsh' TOC journeys within England - see no reason why a national brand cannot be established covering the whole of GB
It's moreso because since the BR days, Scotland and Wales have gained devolved parliaments which control their rail services, so any new nationalised network would probably not include them unless they wanted to just match the branding.'English' TOCs eg GWR, XC and Avanti still provide services for many journeys within Wales, and the 'Welsh' TOC journeys within England - see no reason why a national brand cannot be established covering the whole of GB