First Stagecoach non-London low floor decker preserved

[LOL The Irony]

Because historically Manchester has made the best margins, though that's been pegged back in recent times with all the negative effects of the franchising uncertainty.
Nothing surprising or unusual there.

Ah, thanks for clarifying.

 

[Strathclyder]

Indeed, we had some comments about this in the "enthusiast attitude" thread back in the summer. If someone has the money available to buy and look after a vehicle or their choice, then it's entirely their choice what they buy! Whilst it can seem slightly odd to see a vehicle in Stagecoach stripes in preservation, it's worth remembering how old it is already - getting on for 22 years old - so actually isn't that recent at all.

It is good to see such a vehicle being preserved, and I look forward to seeing it when going to Manchester, or museums in general for that matter, is a "thing" again.

Precisely. It's their choice and theirs alone. As for the 'Stagecoach Stripes in preservation' thing (of course the base livery can trace it's roots back to the late 70s/early 80s), it's also worth noting that several vehicles in preservation already carry it (either privately owned, as part of a museum or as part of the Stagecoach heritage collection), namely a ex-Central SMT Bristol Lodekka (HGM 335E) & the first vehicle bought off-the-shelf by what we now know as Stagecoach, a Duple Dominant-bodied Volvo B58 (FES 831W). But I digress lol

I concur that it's good to see such a vehicle preserved and I too look forward to being able to visit any museum again, let alone a transport/bus-centric one.

 

[CAF397]

I stand corrected...perhaps Bullocks had the first low floor double decker, then? It definitely had a proud proclamation like that on the back.

Low floor bus on the M10 - from https://www.flickr.com/photos/181868521@N08/

Why is Stagecoach Ribble operating that route?

 

[jp4712]

Why is Stagecoach Ribble operating that route?

Because all kinds of very odd things happened in the ten or so years after deregulation, and the various comings and goings and sales of operating units give you a headache, even for someone like me who specialises in Greater Manchester...!

 

[Bletchleyite]

Because all kinds of very odd things happened in the ten or so years after deregulation, and the various comings and goings and sales of operating units give you a headache, even for someone like me who specialises in Greater Manchester...!

Could be related to the fact that the "original" Stagecoach Manchester on the 42 (sold to Finglands, hence them having "Stagecoach liveried" B10Ms) was an offshoot from Ribble, and they kept that route?

The current one is a "second go" which started by acquisition of GM Buses South Ltd.

 

[Ianno87]

Why is Stagecoach Ribble operating that route?

Because all kinds of very odd things happened in the ten or so years after deregulation, and the various comings and goings and sales of operating units give you a headache, even for someone like me who specialises in Greater Manchester...!

The M10 was operated from Bolton depot, inhereted by Lancashire United (when Blazefield bought out Bolton/Blackburn/Burnley depot) then Blue Bus (when they bought Bolton) and in turn by Arriva when they bought Blue Bus (subsequently becoming the 10 rather than the M10). Is it still a Bolton route?

There was briefly an offshoot of a route - the M9 between Bolton and Manchester to cycle the buses/drivers back to Bolton.

 

[iantherev]

Precisely. It's their choice and theirs alone. As for the 'Stagecoach Stripes in preservation' thing (of course the base livery can trace it's roots back to the late 70s/early 80s), it's also worth noting that several vehicles in preservation already carry it (either privately owned, as part of a museum or as part of the Stagecoach heritage collection), namely a ex-Central SMT Bristol Lodekka (HGM 335E) & the first vehicle bought off-the-shelf by what we now know as Stagecoach, a Duple Dominant-bodied Volvo B58 (FES 831W). But I digress lol

I concur that it's good to see such a vehicle preserved and I too look forward to being able to visit any museum again, let alone a transport/bus-centric one.

The Barry Bus Depot have R792DHB, the last Volvo B10M/Alexander PS which Stagecoach in South Wales repainted into stripes for its last months in service.

 

[M60lad]

I know until recently 17612 was allocated to Stagecoach's Middleton Depot and has been said was being used for route learning purposes only, its not surprisingly though its ended up at Museum of Transport as they do have a good relationship with Stagecoach as a few of the members actually work or have worked at Stagecoach themselves.

There's at least 3 vehicles in the Museums fleet that have come from Stagecoach Manchester in the past:

4706 Leyland Atlantean (Northern Counties)
3065 Leyland Olympian (Northern Counties ex Magicbus)
17612 Dennis Trident (Alexander ALX400)

As far as I can gather the plan eventually is to have it painted into original Stagecoach Stripes that it carried when new.

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The M10 was operated from Bolton depot, inhereted by Lancashire United (when Blazefield bought out Bolton/Blackburn/Burnley depot) then Blue Bus (when they bought Bolton) and in turn by Arriva when they bought Blue Bus (subsequently becoming the 10 rather than the M10). Is it still a Bolton route?

There was briefly an offshoot of a route - the M9 between Bolton and Manchester to cycle the buses/drivers back to Bolton.

Yes 10 (as it is now) is still operated out of Bolton Depot.

 

[MotCO]

You'd think that Perth (being Souters home turf) would get all the new toys, but it's always Manchester for some reason. They were among the first to get both generations of the Enviro 400 too.

I'm always surprised at how many new buses find their way to Scotland, particularly in the outlying areas where would have thought that passengers were far and few between. A few examples - Leask of Lerwick and Whites, Bridge of Walls, alongside McGills and West Coast Motors.

 

[jp4712]

I know until recently 17612 was allocated to Stagecoach's Middleton Depot and has been said was being used for route learning purposes only, its not surprisingly though its ended up at Museum of Transport as they do have a good relationship with Stagecoach as a few of the members actually work or have worked at Stagecoach themselves.

There's at least 3 vehicles in the Museums fleet that have come from Stagecoach Manchester in the past:

4706 Leyland Atlantean (Northern Counties)
3065 Leyland Olympian (Northern Counties ex Magicbus)
17612 Dennis Trident (Alexander ALX400)

As far as I can gather the plan eventually is to have it painted into original Stagecoach Stripes that it carried when new.

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Yes 10 (as it is now) is still operated out of Bolton Depot.

Yes, we intend to paint it in original livery eventually (several projects in the queue in front of it). It's only fair to point out that Metrobus 5083 was donated by First Greater Manchester and we have excellent friendships with them both, as well as our next-door neighbours Go North West who were a significant donor to our successful 2019 appeal to buy the 1901 'golden key' that was used to inaugurate the Manchester tramways system in 1901.