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Washington Post are reporting several people have gained entry. On the live feed there was also audio with someone telling the house that people were in the building and to stay calm.

The orange one deserves locking up for this alone.

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Now the DC Mayor has imposed a 6pm to 6am curfew.
 
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Wonder if there will now be pleas to "Defund The Police" from MAGA supporters?

See in Britain something like this wouldn't worry me but we don't have a gun culture, I wonder how long it will be before one of these "excuses of a human being" starts shooting?

I personally would start thinking about getting the Army involved if it gets much worse, you may have a gun "tough guy" but I have a tank, wanna fight?
 

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The orange one deserves locking up for this alone.
Trump caused this, pretty predictably:
“We’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Ave -- I love Pennsylvania Avenue -- and we’re going to the Capitol,” the president said.

“We’re going to try and give our Republicans -- the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help -- we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country,” Trump added. “So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.”
 

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Oh and trump has just tweeted this:

Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!

WTF, You basically told them to do it so you have no right to try to say what they are doing is wrong. Plus with your views on law enforcement how can you even try to pretend you are the better "man".

If my Gran could see him now she would say the same thing to the bloke that exposed himself to her when she was little, something along the lines of "I've got a bigger one than that" :lol:
 

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Seem very restrained the police, i wonder if it would be the same if the protesters storming the Capitol were black?
 

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Reports on the BBC website suggest it is teetering on the edge of getting very nasty. Those inside have been told to get gas masks ready.
 

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Trump has finally brought the US down to the level of the likes of Venezuela. A country ruled by a corrupt and criminal despot clinging on to power by inciting his fanatical followers to overturn the votes of the electorate by force.

If he's still in the White House in two weeks, I'm starting to think he will barricade himself in, and call on his supporters to arrive with their pickups and machine guns and surround the building to protect him.

Surely a majority of Republican congressmen must finally see the huge damage Trump's insane behaviour and barefaced lying is doing to the US's reputation in the world? So far McCain, Romney and (very recently) McConnell are about the only ones willing to stand up for their precious constitution in the face of Trump's antics.
 

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Seem very restrained the police, i wonder if it would be the same if the protesters storming the Capitol were black?
I think they're simply vastly outnumbered and unable to act without significant reinforcement. The Washington Post reports that a request for National Guard support has been denied by the Defense Department, which is itself run by a new Trump appointee (Christopher Miller), after Trump fired the previous incumbent (Mark Esper)
 

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There is video of people smashing windows to try and get in, again WTF. Get the Army in now and start arresting these lunatics.
Agin trump is trying to deflect blame via Twitter :{
 

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Surely a majority of Republican congressmen must finally see the huge damage Trump's insane behaviour and barefaced lying is doing to the US's reputation in the world? So far McCain, Romney and (very recently) McConnell are about the only ones willing to stand up for their precious constitution in the face of Trump's antics.
You and I think this, surely a lot of others do, but so many Republicans seem in thrall to Trump and act as if compelled to support him and agree with his direction still. I was planning on tabulating who voted against today's election certification but that's been rather overtaken by events - for now.

Is it, in part, because the President has too much power for one person and that if that person is a little unhinged that we get what we've been seeing recently, leading up to today?

Will today's seditious events cause people to reappraise Trump? I'd hope so, but I'm not hopeful.
 

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Is it, in part, because the President has too much power for one person and that if that person is a little unhinged that we get what we've been seeing recently, leading up to today?

The US political system wasn't designed to have someone like Trump running the place. There's a centuries-old reliance on decency and respect of the democratic process which has looked pretty shonky in recent years.
 

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I am just old enough to remember watching Tricky Dicky’s resignation speech. I never thought I would see anything that would outdo that, but now I have.
 

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Pence now actively distancing himself from Trump's supporters and the Capitol siege in his two recent tweets.

And he's unfollowed Trump on Twitter.. (allegedly. I'm still trying to find the source for that as I can't see who follows who)

Smells like the 25th..?
 
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Trump has now called in the national guard, fancy that sending the troops to stop your own "people", or maybe they will be used not to top the terrorists but to stop the count instead.
 

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Pence now actively distancing himself from Trump's supporters and the Capitol siege in his two recent tweets.

And he's unfollowed Trump on Twitter..

Smells like the 25th..?
Ouch. About time too though.
I wonder if he’ll try and slide in as the not-Trump-but-Trumpish candidate for 2024?
Either that or just fall back on being Leslie Neilson’s evil twin maybe?
 

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Ouch. About time too though.
I wonder if he’ll try and slide in as the not-Trump-but-Trumpish candidate for 2024?
Either that or just fall back on being Leslie Neilson’s evil twin maybe?

Not sure how accurate this is tbh. Anyone here with a Twitter account fancy checking?
 

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Frightening and unbelievable.

This really is a sad reflection on the Republican party that they let this lunatic in.

This really is very very bad for democracy - long term. It was clear years ago that Trump was always making whatever promises people wanted to hear. But four years later there were not enough gullible people to believe his lies. But it is not over. Trump is peddling enough lies to enough believers that there are now a significant number of disaffected voters who are ready to give up on democracy. This is at great risk of descending into anarchy.

Will the republican party diffuse the situation by disowning this lunatic ?. Or is it too late ?.

What the Republican party need to think about is that in four years time most voters will be unable to consider the Republican party. If there is a democracy left then I wonder if the Republicans will be replaced by a new party that has more chance of competing for votes against the Democrats.
 
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He's following the POTUS but not Trump's personal account (on his personal account at least).
 

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Trump has now called in the national guard, fancy that sending the troops to stop your own "people", or maybe they will be used not to top the terrorists but to stop the count instead.
Trump is claiming he's called in the National Guard. The New York Times is saying they were mobilised by request from the Mayor of Washington.
 
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