With only 5-6 sets in use a day they dont need as many power cars.Some of them are the LNER units that EMR no longer required due to extensive repairs no?
With only 5-6 sets in use a day they dont need as many power cars.Some of them are the LNER units that EMR no longer required due to extensive repairs no?
Ah ok, thank you! Although I’ve heard HSTs have been covering for failed 180s on some diagrams...With only 5-6 sets in use a day they dont need as many power cars.
Not directly but HSTs have been on part of 222 diagrams as the 180s run together at peak times so really have to be a 180 or 222.Ah ok, thank you! Although I’ve heard HSTs have been covering for failed 180s on some diagrams...
Makes sense, thank you.Not directly but HSTs have been on part of 222 diagrams as the 180s run together at peak times so really have to be a 180 or 222.
No, FGW used them in pairs from the early days.Is this the first time to class 180 have operated in multiple with a TOC?
GC and HT ran them together in disruption.Is this the first time to class 180 have operated in multiple with a TOC?
Is 170418 now in the EMR livery from it's previous SR Saltire?Updated list:
There seems to have been a bit of a clear-out of HST stockbut the 180's have now entered service along with more 170's.
Class 43 HST power cars (Will reduce in number from timetable change):
43238 - LNER red, EMR branding
43251 - LNER red, EMR branding
43257 - LNER red, EMR branding
43272 - LNER red, EMR branding
43274 - LNER red, EMR branding
43295 - LNER red, EMR branding
43302 - LNER red, EMR branding
43305 - LNER red, EMR branding
43306 - LNER red, EMR branding
43307 - LNER red, EMR branding
43309 - LNER red, EMR branding
43310 - LNER red, EMR branding
43316 - LNER red, EMR branding
43317 - LNER red, EMR branding
43319 - LNER red, EMR branding
43320 - LNER red, EMR branding
MK3 Coach sets:
'blue' sets
NL03 in service
NL04 in service
NL11 in service
'red' sets (Ex LNER)
NL51 in service (6 coaches)
NL56 in service
NL57 in service (6 coaches)
NL58 in service (6 coaches)
Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153311 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153376 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo - 'X-24 Expeditious'
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153381 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153383 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153385 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156902 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156402)
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417)
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)
Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
Class 170:
170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional
Class 180:
180109 - Hull Trains blue, no branding
180110 - EMR outgoing livery
180111 - EMR outgoing livery
180113 - EMR outgoing livery
Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'Tornado'
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'
222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity
Class 360:
360101 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360102 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360103 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360104 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering on Driver Training runs)
360105 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360106 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360107 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360108 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360109 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360110 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360111 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360112 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360113 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering on Driver Training runs)
360114 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360115 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360116 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360117 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360118 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360119 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360120 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360121 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
43044, 073, 296, 299, 308, 314, 318, 423?, 468? are Withdrawn but still at Neville Hill
43050, 060 are at Derby RTC with Colas Rail on test trains.
43048, 052, 054, 066, 076, 089 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S). 43048, 089 are now part of the 125group.
43046, 055, 058, 059, 083 are now with LSL
43043, 045, 064, 081, 082, 277, 290 are now at Burton West Yard. 43045 might have moved since arriving on 3/12.
43047, 049 are at Gascoigne Wood
43465, 467 are at Barrow Hill
43480, 484 are at Derby Etches Park
Mk3's:
NL01 Scrapped/3 coaches to 125 group
NL06, NL07, NL10 Scrapped
NL08, NL12 stored at Gascoigne Wood
DY23 is at Derby Etches Park
DY21, DY22 are at Barrow Hill
Class 153's
153302, 318, 368, 372, 374, 382 are withdrawn and stored at Ely
Is 170418 now in the EMR livery from it's previous SR Saltire?
If so, I assume it has moved from Holbeck?
Thanks for thatIt is at Derby Etches Park and has had a couple of trips to Leicester empty stock today.
Do Etches Park do the re-vinyl work on these units?Thanks for thatDo Etches Park do the re-vinyl work on these units?
Thanks for thatDo Etches Park do the re-vinyl work on these units?
And set NL03 has gone to Gascoigne Wood.All 3 ex-grand central sets are now at Ely. 43296/318/308/314 are also now at Ely.
All the 360s have had GA branding removed (including the ones still with GA) so they’re all “blue with white stripe” now.Updated list:
More HST's being shuffled around and 2 more 360's have arrived.
Class 43 HST power cars:
43238 - LNER red, EMR branding
43251 - LNER red, EMR branding
43257 - LNER red, EMR branding
43272 - LNER red, EMR branding
43274 - LNER red, EMR branding
43295 - LNER red, EMR branding
43302 - LNER red, EMR branding
43305 - LNER red, EMR branding
43306 - LNER red, EMR branding
43307 - LNER red, EMR branding
43309 - LNER red, EMR branding
43310 - LNER red, EMR branding
43316 - LNER red, EMR branding
43317 - LNER red, EMR branding
43319 - LNER red, EMR branding
43320 - LNER red, EMR branding
MK3 Coach sets:
'blue' sets
NL04 in service (8 coaches)
NL11 in service (7 coaches)
'red' sets (Ex LNER)
NL51 in service (6 coaches)
NL56 in service (6 coaches)
NL57 in service (6 coaches)
NL58 in service (6 coaches)
Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153311 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153376 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo - 'X-24 Expeditious'
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153381 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153383 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153385 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156902 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156402)
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417)
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)
Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
Class 170:
170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional
Class 180:
180109 - Hull Trains blue, no branding
180110 - EMR outgoing livery
180111 - EMR outgoing livery
180113 - EMR outgoing livery
Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'Tornado'
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'
222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity
Class 360:
360101 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360102 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360103 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering on Driver Training runs)
360104 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering on Driver Training runs)
360105 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360106 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360107 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360108 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360109 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360110 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360111 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360112 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360113 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering on Driver Training runs)
360114 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360115 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360116 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360117 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360118 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360119 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360120 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360121 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering on Driver Training runs)
Class 43 Power Cars:
43044 is Withdrawn but still at Neville Hill
43050, 060 are at Derby RTC with Colas Rail on test trains.
43048, 052, 054, 066, 076, 089 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S). 43048, 089 are now part of the 125group.
43046, 055, 058, 059, 083 are now with LSL
43043, 045, 047, 049, 064, 073, 081, 082, 277, 290, 299 are now at Burton West Yard. 43045 might have moved since arriving on 3/12.
43296, 308, 314, 318, 423, 465, 467, 468, 480, 484 are at Ely
Mk3's:
NL01 Scrapped/3 coaches to 125 group
NL06, NL07, NL10 Scrapped
NL03, NL08, NL12 stored at Gascoigne Wood
DY21, DY22, DY23 are at Ely
Class 153's
153302, 318, 368, 372, 374, 382 are stored at Ely
311/379/381/384/385 plus one more will remain with EMRI think some of the 153s are going off lease shortly, will see if I can find out tomorrow
Thanks. I have changed all the 360's to 'blue with white stripe'All the 360s have had GA branding removed (including the ones still with GA) so they’re all “blue with white stripe” now.
I think some of the 153s are going off lease shortly, will see if I can find out tomorrow
Interesting. There must be some use for them if EMR are keeping some.311/379/381/384/385 plus one more will remain with EMR
I believe that the 170s have all arrived to EMR in the 'as-finished' exterior condition, the only things added afterwards have been numbers on the front of the cabs, and the name on 417
Thanks both!It's a full repaint and that is what they visit Crofton previously and this time Holbeck for. We are hoping 418 is basically oven ready for passenger service having been in use until very recently, the rest are struggling a little though 417 seems to have settled down nicely now.
I think some of the 153s are going off lease shortly, will see if I can find out tomorrow
311/379/381/384/385 plus one more will remain with EMR
2 153s are spoken for Monday to Saturday for Cleethorpes to Barton-on-Humber. At the moment they're all that Cleethorpes crews are trained on....
Interesting. There must be some use for them if EMR are keeping some.
Thanks. I have added the Barton services to the EMR diagram thread.2 153s are spoken for Monday to Saturday for Cleethorpes to Barton-on-Humber. At the moment they're all that Cleethorpes crews are trained on.
311/379/381/384/385 plus one more will remain with EMR
It appears they are still required for the Barton on Humber service.I know with social distancing etc. the 153s have been with EMR longer than expected, but surely with the 170s now being introduced they won’t be required at all? Or am I missing something here?

I thought that it was still with Northern, or has it now been transferred?It appears they are still required for the Barton on Humber service.
Spotted a banner for the introduction of the 170's at Tutbury and Hatton yesterday.
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Yep but only on selected workings - most probably due to the incompatibility between the 158s and 156/9s153s have often been used to back up 158s on Nottinghsm - Liverpool to make 3 car trains, but probably not today as it seems to be either 4 or 2 coaches. That said 2 153s have quite often appeared in the mix.