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Transport for Wales - Trainee Train Drivers

Welsh lady

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Well done rails, congratulations, are you going for Cardiff? I got through as well, never know, we could all be on the same course!
Have you applied for mainline and valleys?

Guessing the valleys training will be throughout 2021 as they're looking to open the depot in 2022...

Would be pretty cool if we were all together! Kind of feel like we've done the whole process together
 
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Hi , I applied for Carmarthen in July and have heard nothing, I guess I haven’t been successful

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Anyone else in the same boat as me? Not had any kind of indication whether I’ve been selected or not. No NI email and just the automated response from Acorn stating my application is still under review
Loads mate. Loads of us like I said. I know 5 personally. I told you this??

Think some need to realise the scope of this recruitment campaign. It was for pretty much all depots not one or two. Could be a year or two until you get in.
 

Slipper

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Hi. Congrats on passing. At the MMI was told the same about every month and 8 per course, but at DMI was told there was nothing solid in place. Not sure how much covid and Welsh gov switch will affect plans. I guess it's just a waiting game now. Hopefully it wont be too long.
Congrats to you also. Yes it's a difficult one really, a situation that is still evolving. On the positive side they have kept the recruitment process running, when they could have delayed it, and hopefully a vaccine could be available soon.
It will partly depend on how many people actually go back to work instead of working from home, I suppose the situation is so fluid that no one really knows how many will be required long term.

Just my thoughts of course, and I am generally pessimistic
 

Rails2020

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Well done rails, congratulations, are you going for Cardiff? I got through as well, never know, we could all be on the same course!
I've put down for either :) based on what's been said with waiting times im open to whatever :) fingers crossed they start firing out courses in the new year
 

RedRobin

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Have you applied for mainline and valleys?

Guessing the valleys training will be throughout 2021 as they're looking to open the depot in 2022...

Would be pretty cool if we were all together! Kind of feel like we've done the whole process together
You never know until nearer the time if your mainline or valleys, the course started this week is destined for mainline. I'm on this course I start Thursday.
 

Welsh lady

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You never know until nearer the time if your mainline or valleys, the course started this week is destined for mainline. I'm on this course I start Thursday.
Ohh makes sense I guess..

What's the process between talent pool confirmation and start date? How much notice did they give you? Apologies for million questions!

Ps, good luck! Hope you have fun!
 

Slipper

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Ohh makes sense I guess..

What's the process between talent pool confirmation and start date? How much notice did they give you? Apologies for million questions!

Ps, good luck! Hope you have fun!

As far as I am aware, they will offer you a position by a phone call, or email if they can not contact you by phone. You then have a conditional offer based on passing a medical. If you pass that you wait for a start date. They are aware that a lot of people need to give a months notice from their current job, so your medical should be passed before this, giving you time to hand in your notice.

I think the last group have had about 2 months notice going by messages on the forum here.

I was told there would be courses running every month in 2021, but that was before the recent take over by the WA. If there was a course running in January or even February next year you would think that people would need to be informed round about this time really, especially with Christmas coming up. It does make me a little concerned that the courses could be delayed significantly and that they may decide they do not need as many drivers as they originally thought at the start of the year.

It is a worry, but unfortunately, there is nothing we can do but wait.


again the above are only my thoughts, and probably have no basis in reality whatsoever! ;)

regards
 

Welsh lady

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As far as I am aware, they will offer you a position by a phone call, or email if they can not contact you by phone. You then have a conditional offer based on passing a medical. If you pass that you wait for a start date. They are aware that a lot of people need to give a months notice from their current job, so your medical should be passed before this, giving you time to hand in your notice.

I think the last group have had about 2 months notice going by messages on the forum here.

I was told there would be courses running every month in 2021, but that was before the recent take over by the WA. If there was a course running in January or even February next year you would think that people would need to be informed round about this time really, especially with Christmas coming up. It does make me a little concerned that the courses could be delayed significantly and that they may decide they do not need as many drivers as they originally thought at the start of the year.

It is a worry, but unfortunately, there is nothing we can do but wait.


again the above are only my thoughts, and probably have no basis in reality whatsoever! ;)

regards
Hey, thanks for that! Makes sense to be fair that's what I was thinking but just have so many questions

Are you in the pool?
 

Slipper

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Hey, thanks for that! Makes sense to be fair that's what I was thinking but just have so many questions

Are you in the pool?
Yes, I initially applied in March 2020, but nothing happened for ages. I passed my DMI on the 3rd September and had confirmation on the 14th. I was told that you get called forward from the talent pool according to the date you went in and not on scores achieved at the DMI or assessment. No idea how many are before me, could be a long wait
 

RedRobin

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Ohh makes sense I guess..

What's the process between talent pool confirmation and start date? How much notice did they give you? Apologies for million questions!

Ps, good luck! Hope you have fun!
Its different for externals but for us was 5 weeks from phonecall/medical/start date but I think external get more notice. Any questions feel free.
 

Welsh lady

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Yes, I initially applied in March 2020, but nothing happened for ages. I passed my DMI on the 3rd September and had confirmation on the 14th. I was told that you get called forward from the talent pool according to the date you went in and not on scores achieved at the DMI or assessment. No idea how many are before me, could be a long wait
Aww I'm about 2months behind you then so keep us updated! Hope you don't have to wait too long!

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It's best not overthinking about the recruitment process, the railway never rushes the recruitment of staff & this recent filling of vacancies had 1000's of applicants.

TFW had to employ an external agency which probably makes things more complicated but saves time, it's best just being patient & once you get a start date then get into the overthinking stage which can't be helped with the excitement.

I doubt there will be a training school every month in 2021, i know that in Chester they only have 4 driver trainers. There is the logistics of classroom space & all the sharing of space in a covid world.

Going through the process can take 9-12 months with all the different elements, so be prepared for lots of learning & lots of head scratching.

So my advice is be patient & remember there are no stupid questions, if you don't understand anything just ask. Good luck
Haha I've overthought every single aspect of the process so far. Gonna be a long difficult wait for a start date..

Hopefully these changes with WA and covid aren't going to cause too much of a delay!

Thanks for the info!

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Its different for externals but for us was 5 weeks from phonecall/medical/start date but I think external get more notice. Any questions feel free.
Ooh ok thanks!

How was the medical? I'm a fairly healthy person but just wondering what they check for in particular?
 

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It's best not overthinking about the recruitment process, the railway never rushes the recruitment of staff & this recent filling of vacancies had 1000's of applicants.

TFW had to employ an external agency which probably makes things more complicated but saves time, it's best just being patient & once you get a start date then get into the overthinking stage which can't be helped with the excitement.

I doubt there will be a training school every month in 2021, i know that in Chester they only have 4 driver trainers. There is the logistics of classroom space & all the sharing of space in a covid world.

Going through the process can take 9-12 months with all the different elements, so be prepared for lots of learning & lots of head scratching.

So my advice is be patient & remember there are no stupid questions, if you don't understand anything just ask. Good luck
Very much this. Any applicant is basically a passenger in this whole process - there really isn't a whole lot you can do to speed things up and you'll drive yourself mad if you try! Rest assured that things are happening, albeit slowly.

I too have my doubts about the one course a month bit - unless they do it as alternating between North and South, so one course starting in each of Cardiff and Chester every 2 month's. It's hard to see how there is the space in the training centers or availability of staff for any more then that - especially with all the other routine training that's taking place, such as training for other roles, and ongoing training of existing drivers on new tractions and so on.
 

RedRobin

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Aww I'm about 2months behind you then so keep us updated! Hope you don't have to wait too long!

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Haha I've overthought every single aspect of the process so far. Gonna be a long difficult wait for a start date..

Hopefully these changes with WA and covid aren't going to cause too much of a delay!

Thanks for the info!

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Ooh ok thanks!

How was the medical? I'm a fairly healthy person but just wondering what they check for in particular?
Medical is your typical process i was worried but its no problem

Blood pressure test ( don't stress out ) first time I took it was high, told me to stop talking and deep breaths and 2nd time it was fine.

Hearing test to make sure you can hear tones.

Eye test to make sure you see letters from distance.

ECG test I think its called just checks your heart beat is okay.

You will be fine
 

Welsh lady

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Medical is your typical process i was worried but its no problem

Blood pressure test ( don't stress out ) first time I took it was high, told me to stop talking and deep breaths and 2nd time it was fine.

Hearing test to make sure you can hear tones.

Eye test to make sure you see letters from distance.

ECG test I think its called just checks your heart beat is okay.

You will be fine
Ooh ok I can do that! I don't think I'd fail on a fitness test etc either I just like to worry about these things... Still doesn't quite feel real I made it into the pool! Thanks for the info.

I'm sure at some point you'll regret the offer of me asking away!
 

RedRobin

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Ooh ok I can do that! I don't think I'd fail on a fitness test etc either I just like to worry about these things... Still doesn't quite feel real I made it into the pool! Thanks for the info.

I'm sure at some point you'll regret the offer of me asking away!
I start my course Thursday were on the same boat but you wi ace it dont worry and fingers cross you start soon well deserved
 

Catweasel

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Its different for externals but for us was 5 weeks from phonecall/medical/start date but I think external get more notice. Any questions feel free.
Hi Redrobin, I had an email last Wednezday, 18th Nov to say I passed the DMI and was in the talent pool. How long did you have to wait before you were invited for a medical? And was it 5 weeks after the medical that the course started? I've applied for mainline and valleys, getting impatient already, just want to start now!

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Aww thank you! Let us know how you're first day went.. I know I'll be itching to know
I start my course Thursday were on the same boat but you wi ace it dont worry and fingers cross you start soon well deserved
Yes, good luck, and definitely would be interested to hear how it goes, keep us posted!
 
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RedRobin

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Hi Redrobin, I had an email last Wednezday, 18th Nov to say I passed the DMI and was in the talent pool. How long did you have to wait before you were invited for a medical? And was it 5 weeks after the medical that the course started? I've applied for mainline and valleys, getting impatient already, just want to start now!

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Yes, good luck, and definitely would be interested to hear how it goes, keep us posted!
I've been in talent pool from Feb this year and applied around feb 2019. Lots of courses starting 2021 I'm no expert but I heard there is a course a month next year you won't have long to wait.

Its 5/6 weeks from the phonecall to book your medical to start day. Once you get the call its quick
 

Welsh lady

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I've been in talent pool from Feb this year and applied around feb 2019. Lots of courses starting 2021 I'm no expert but I heard there is a course a month next year you won't have long to wait.

Its 5/6 weeks from the phonecall to book your medical to start day. Once you get the call its quick
Is the medical done through tfw or do we have to go to our own drs?
 

DanV12

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Hi. Congrats on passing. At the MMI was told the same about every month and 8 per course, but at DMI was told there was nothing solid in place. Not sure how much covid and Welsh gov switch will affect plans. I guess it's just a waiting game now. Hopefully it wont be too long
Are the MMI and DMI conducted in the same place if so where was it ?
 

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