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A small group of us are going to Gothenburg shortly. Anyone got any tips?

Good places to eat a meal (not too expensive), anywhere in particular that's worth a look in or near the city, etc would be useful to know.

Also any of the tram/railway lines particularly worth travelling on? Any good walks?

Also will a 72 hour ticket cover us for transport from the Airport? How do we buy them, and are they paper only or can you use an app/e-ticket?

thanks :)
 
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As to cheap eats, food and even drinks are good value if bought from retail. As soon as you add service high VAT and wage costs make it expensive. Remember there is a state monopoly seller of booze and strong beer, Systembolaget, but again not unreasonable
 
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The central area of Gothenburg is very pleasant for a wander around. The rail lines out toward Herringjunga & Kil are both reasonably scenic too.

As for reasonably priced food, I can recommend this Burger place which is a 10 minute walk from central station. Doesn't look much from the outside, but the food quality is very good & by Swedish standards, very reasonably priced. Burger & fries will set you back around £11.00
 

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I've been for work trips to Gothenburg about a dozen times, but I haven't done much tourist stuff.

Gothenburg City airport closed in 2015, so if you fly, you'll arrive in Landvetter. I normally get the bus from https://www.flygbussarna.se/en/landvetter
You can buy tickets online, and show the bar code ticket. You can pay with a card on board, but its a little more expensive. I think they are separate to the Västtrafik tickets.

I normally buy paper Västtrafik tickets for the public transport from a Pressbyran kiosk. There is an app, but you can only buy tickets with it with a Swedish credit card.

https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Gothenburg is good for the details.

The last time I was there was a year ago I had a room at the Gothia Towers hotel, which is a new tower block. Its the first stop on the bus from the airport and is convenient for the public transport. It was £75 for the night. Google suggests its ~ £100 a night for a room next week. I have also stayed at the Radisson Blu near Gothenburg station, or the Scandic in Molndal.

For food, I like the burgers at The Stockyard https://thestockyard.se/

The Rover is a pub with decent food and beer. It was recommended to me by a local.

If you want some characteristic Swedish cuisine, you can go for kebab pizza (!)
 
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The tram route across the Gota bridge looks spectacular though I've only seen it from ground level!
 
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Always remember that small bits and pieces in Sweden can be very expensive; the total of incidental spending will mount up.

You could try kottbullar med (potatis)mos med lingon from a gatukok (should be two dots over the o in in kottbullar and the one in gatukok). I know you can get it from IKEA, but this proper.
 

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I emigrated to northern Sweden in 2019, but in fact my very first "landfall" in the country was when I flew to Gothenburg and caught the SJ night train to Umeå for an interview. I had a lovely few hours exploring the city on foot, wondering if I could live in Scandinavia.

Others know the city better than I do, but some general thoughts regarding costs...

Yes, Sweden will feel expensive. It's the same for us, and in general Sweden is a home-oriented society. I work in a university and even in normal times, students simply don't go out to socialise very much. Parties etc in the home are more common.

A few adjustments to your travel routines can help. Try not to stop and snack while you're out and about... two coffees and pastry in a café will set you back a tenner immediately. Others have mentioned Systembolaget, which is the state alcohol monopoly for off-sales. If you want to drink at home you can only buy 3.5%< beer, wine or spirits there. Larger stores are open 10-20 on weekdays. They all close at 15 on Saturday and don't re-open until Monday morning.

Drinking out, the cheapest pubs don't always look like "pubs" to British visitors. The best pub I found in Stockholm actually presents itself as a Japanese restaurant... but go inside and it's a rather cosy bar which serves 100x as many beers as it does bowls of noodles. So if you want a drink at the end of a long day of sightseeing, consider a restaurant or diner - those with licenses are often fine with you sitting in to drink.

Most hotels include breakfast, and even in Corona-times to breakfast buffets at Scandic hotels are wonderful... so fill your boots every morning. (Not literally... they don't like it if you take out...)

For lunch, most Swedes eat between 12 and 13. The way to get good value here is to find somewhere with extras thrown in. Many places will offer an inclusive lunch ("lunchmeny") with bread, salad, and coffee. Grab the daily newspaper in the hotel, which may have a "lunchguiden" with small ads for today's specials Look to pay 75-120kr for something like this. Ikea canteens have been closed for much of the pandemic, but the one in Gothenburg may be open if you make it there. Most malls have food courts with slightly cheaper deals. Department stores like Åhléns (mid-range, like John Lewis) and NK (high-end, like Selfridges) also have eateries.

For fast food, Sybilla is cheap and not so nice (and they always seem to be located in bus stations...) Max is Sweden's McDonalds, and unmissable. Almost everything can be made vegan or veggie, just swap the patty for one of several plant-based alternatives. Pressbyran (newsagent), Seven 11 and Circle K (gas station) all sell cheap hot dogs which you can have in a variety of flavours and breads.

Others have given you advice on paper of PDF tickets for the airport bus and local transit. But in general, almost all transport ticketing in Sweden is now handled on mobile devices. Search your iOS or Google app store for the name of the operator. Some operators make this difficult for visitors by a) not listing their app to users with app store accounts registered outside Sweden, b) not accepting payment from non-Swedish debit cards. You will also encounter a lot of vendors who offer "Swish" - this is a widespread mobile payment system only available to Swedish residents. But in general, buying online or in an app and then scanning a QR code is how it works. Under current circumstances, some Swedish transport operators (such as SL ferries in Stockholm) are not checking tickets in order to reduce the risk of exposing staff to infection. But interpret that opportunity very carefully.

Again, I don't know about Gothenburg, but in general the current procedure is not to board at the front of the bus. If you have to scan your ticket there (often in rural areas) do so when the front door opens and then board at the middle door.

Finally, Sweden has taken an approach to coronavirus which believes that total usage of face masks is less practical and more wasteful (i.e. drawing essential PPE supplies away from healthcare) than simple social distancing. There are no rules on you as an individual, simply a strong recommendation to stay home if you feel ill, avoid unnecessary use of public transport and to maintain 1,5 metres social distancing. Some shops ask for 2 metres. Personally, I have found it very difficult to maintain those distances in busy public spaces, especially supermarkets, so I have re-useable cotton face masks that I use indoors in public and wash daily. I would encourage you to do the same if you feel safer doing so - do not let the attitude of others affect you. No-one has given me hassle for wearing a mask, there is no "anti-mask" movement such as in the USA right now.

Trevlig resa!
 

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A small group of us are going to Gothenburg shortly. Anyone got any tips?

Good places to eat a meal (not too expensive), anywhere in particular that's worth a look in or near the city, etc would be useful to know.

Also any of the tram/railway lines particularly worth travelling on? Any good walks?

Also will a 72 hour ticket cover us for transport from the Airport? How do we buy them, and are they paper only or can you use an app/e-ticket?

thanks :)
For something transport-y I would recommend the Volvo museum.
 

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Would echo what was said about getting bus from airport, ticket bought online then scanned a QR code remember the Landvetter trip being quite expensive though. There is a local bus that goes to the bus station in Landvetter to change to one into Gothenberg but I have never bothered. I've only ever used paper tickets, they were single use smartcards the last time I went, normally a 72hr bought from a 7-11 or Pressbyran but loads of different outlets sell them. I see that Västtrafik (think something like a PTE here) now have a mobile app to use instead which seems cheaper at first glance.

A few places to go that are vaguely transport related which I can recommend:

-Aeroseum is a great museum based in an old military tunnel complex out by what was City airport (which itself was an air force base for most of its existence), when I visited you could sit in the Cockpit of several former Swedish Air Force fighter jets, walk around inside a CH46 (not called that in Swedish service but think smaller Chinook.) Good history of the post WWII Swedish Air Force which was huge for the size of country, early 1950's it was 5th largest in World. Can be hard to get to by public transport, bus is fairly infrequent so requires planning when you will go and particularly return. A lot of aircraft exhibits if you have an interest in such things but almost all military.
-Maritiman on a more transport related note is a floating museum of several vessels out in the harbour. Submarine and Halland class destroyer are particularly interesting. First time I'd been on a Submarine actually in the water as opposed to lifted out like Malmo or the former HMS Alliance.

There used to be Heritage trams running on one of the lines during Summer including some very old models (very early 1900's) which had an interesting quirk of being "wrong" sided due to being constructed before the change over in driving side in the 1960's. I would suspect they have stopped running for the year now. Although last time I was there a lot of 1960-1970s trams were still in general usage.

Maritime museum was quite good (not a patch on Hamburg or new Danish one but then they set quite a high bar) but apparently closed this year for renovations which will no doubt remove most of the interesting things for more interactive exhibits.
 

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I agree with the comments about breakfast buffets in hotels, although I have hit the odd one where the choice is a bit limited. Make sure you are wearing something with baggy pockets when you go in to breakfast: I have frequently sliced open a bread roll or two, shoved a slice of cheese inside and then discreetly shoved it into my pocket. After a hefty breakfast, that is lunch sorted.
 

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Does anyone know if there is an option to travel from Landvetter Airport to Central Gothenburg using a local bus such that we can use a 72 hour ticket?
 

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A small group of us are going to Gothenburg shortly. Anyone got any tips?
I'm jealous. I've always wanted to visit Scandinavia, and Sweden is particularly appealing right now for obvious reasons!
Have a great trip!
 

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Does anyone know if there is an option to travel from Landvetter Airport to Central Gothenburg using a local bus such that we can use a 72 hour ticket?

A quick look at the Vasttrafik (should be two dots over the a) website (.vasttrafik.se - no dots in that) suggests you can get a bus 612 from the airport to Landvetter bus station and then the Red (ROD - two dots over the O) Express Bus to Gothenburg. The website has an English option.

EDIT: An alternative, possibly better for the return journey when you have had an opportunity to check times and fare validity, is train from Gothenburg to Hindas (circle over the a) and then a bus to the airport.
 
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Don't know when you are going precisely but the Tram workshop in Garda where they keep all the heritage trams in having an open day on Sunday:
Link to Tram Open Day Advert in Swedish

So I think that a Goteborg + Ticket would be valid if you took the 612 to Landvetter then the Red express line into Gothenberg. This would be 280Kr if purchased on the App for a 72hr, 612 runs every half hour. As mentioned above the Västtrafik journey planner offers the journey with this ticket combination so it should be valid.
 

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The cross harbour ferries are a good way to see the harbour, and are free of charge when they have the appropriate flag flying! Going out into the Archipelago is amazing, but not sure what would be running to do this at this time of year.

Gothenburg is a lovely city, you'll have a great time.
 

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The zones are changing on 4 November: it appears that Landvetter Airport (and Hindas) will be in Zone B, but Gothenburg (and Landvetter Bus Station) in Zone A.
 

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Finally, Sweden has taken an approach to coronavirus which believes that total usage of face masks is less practical and more wasteful (i.e. drawing essential PPE supplies away from healthcare) than simple social distancing. There are no rules on you as an individual, simply a strong recommendation to stay home if you feel ill, avoid unnecessary use of public transport and to maintain 1,5 metres social distancing. Some shops ask for 2 metres. Personally, I have found it very difficult to maintain those distances in busy public spaces, especially supermarkets, so I have re-useable cotton face masks that I use indoors in public and wash daily. I would encourage you to do the same if you feel safer doing so - do not let the attitude of others affect you. No-one has given me hassle for wearing a mask, there is no "anti-mask" movement such as in the USA right now.

I'm guessing the travellers are well aware of the Swedish attitude to Covid...and is the main reason why they are going! :D
 

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The cross harbour ferries are a good way to see the harbour, and are free of charge when they have the appropriate flag flying!
Thanks, are you able to elaborate on that please? And if they are not free, what is the cost ?

Also are we likely to get away with paying by card on this trip? Or will we need some local currency.
 

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Thanks, are you able to elaborate on that please? And if they are not free, what is the cost ?

Also are we likely to get away with paying by card on this trip? Or will we need some local currency.
Sweden are the best country I've ever found for paying by card, so you won't have any problems.

I'm afraid I just noticed that the ferries were flying a green flag saying free, so spent a happy hour shuttling backwards and forwards across the harbour! I'm not sure exactly how much they cost when the flag isn't up (I suspect this is at peak times), but they are fully integrated into the transport system, so I imagine a bus and tram pass would also cover the ferries (If only that was the case here as well!)
 

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So I think that a Goteborg + Ticket would be valid if you took the 612 to Landvetter then the Red express line into Gothenberg. This would be 280Kr if purchased on the App for a 72hr, 612 runs every half hour. As mentioned above the Västtrafik journey planner offers the journey with this ticket combination so it should be valid.
Thanks but wha
if you took the 612 to Landvetter then the Red express line into Gothenberg. This would be 280Kr if purchased on the App for a 72hr, 612 runs every half hour. As mentioned above the Västtrafik journey planner offers the journey with this ticket combination so it should be valid.
Ok so basically if we get on the express bus at the airport, we can't use the 72 hour ticket, but if we get the 612 to an intermediate point, we can use it.

If the first bus due is a red express, presumably we can pay for a ticket to the first point from where our ticket becomes valid?
 

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Sweden are the best country I've ever found for paying by card, so you won't have any problems.

I'm afraid I just noticed that the ferries were flying a green flag saying free, so spent a happy hour shuttling backwards and forwards across the harbour! I'm not sure exactly how much they cost when the flag isn't up (I suspect this is at peak times), but they are fully integrated into the transport system, so I imagine a bus and tram pass would also cover the ferries (If only that was the case here as well!)

Sweden is famous for its cashless society. Even the banks don't like cash!

We've just been told on another thread that nobody wants to change between buses and ferries on the same journey, so there's no point offering a joint ticket!
 

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If the first bus due is a red express, presumably we can pay for a ticket to the first point from where our ticket becomes valid?

You would just require a Goteborg + 72hr ticket from the app or an outlet at airport.

The Red express bus doesn't serve the airport.

Journey would be:
612 Landvetter Flygplats (If memory serves it goes from pretty much right next to Airport bus I took) > Landvetter Rescentrum (In Landvetter itself not the airport named after the town)
RÖD Landvetter Rescentrum > Gothenberg (stops in a few places but I used the central station as an example for the journey)


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Image: A Screenshot of the journey planner showing the above journey in Swedish from Västtrafik.

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Image: A Screenshot of the journey planner showing the price for the above journey being 280Kr using a 72hr ticket.


All of the above avaliable on: Vastrafik Website - Journey planner is on front page Note the English language version of site is not the full site including journey planner use Google translate or other translation plugin.

Edit: To be clear the Airport express bus is a different service than the Red express line bus. The airport express is not included in the Västtrafik pricing system hence why the journey planner cannot find prices for it if you search, although it does show up in generated timetables.
 
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Is a zonal map available? I can't seem to find one, so I'm unsure if we need the plus ticket or plus plus?

And is there a good geographic map showing the lines? So far I only have a schematic map
 

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Agreed, the Red line only serves Landvetter town/village bus station.

I can’t get a definite answer as my iPad won’t download everything (or maybe it’s me), but it looks as though Vasttrafik tickets aren’t valid on the direct airport bus from Gothenburg.

EDIT: Try Travel Planning on Vasttrafik’s English webpages for some map information, although I don’t know exactly what is there as (again) I can’t get it to work.
 
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Is a zonal map available? I can't seem to find one, so I'm unsure if we need the plus ticket or plus plus?

And is there a good geographic map showing the lines? So far I only have a schematic map

The new zones from 4 November can be seen here:


Lots of places I've travelled to tend to have a schematic map only. But you could look at OpenStreetMap to see if it corresponds to the schematic map. Even if there are differences it might be helpful.

 

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Direct bus is ran by a company not contracted to Västtrafik so tickets aren't valid. The system isn't technically zonal currently is is based on municipalities (all changes on 4th November to a 3 zone system though.) The airport is in Härryda väst so a Goteborg+ is valid though.

Sure you've already seen it but this link shows ticket validity by Municipality.
 

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I'm guessing the travellers are well aware of the Swedish attitude to Covid...and is the main reason why they are going! :D

Which is (perhaps) worrying. I read a TripAdvisor review of a Stockholm hotel a few weeks ago written by a British traveller who was delighted they “didn’t have to worry about any of that COVID nonsense.” The attitude of some foreigners in Stockholm recently suggests that Sweden could become more dangerous than its reputation suggests, as people flock here for a city break without taking the precautions requested (but not demanded) by the authorities here. Note that the Swedish line is not the face masks don’t work, just that they aren’t practical.

Nonetheless, welcome to our visitors, and stay safe.
 

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First I recommend that you read through what the Public health agency writes about Covid-19, it is not business as usual in Sweden: https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/

Also, bring good clothes, the weather in November can be bad.

The Rover is a pub with decent food and beer. It was recommended to me by a local.

That is not a bad recommendation, there are also quite a lot of pubs and cheap restaurants in the same area where you can get a feel for the "working class culture" of the city. As a city whose economy has been based on large industries, it is known for its "working class culture" (I'm not sure if that is an expression in english, but I hope you can understand it.) On the other side of Järntorget, Haga is also a pretty nice area.

You could try kottbullar med (potatis)mos med lingon from a gatukok (should be two dots over the o in in kottbullar and the one in gatukok). I know you can get it from IKEA, but this proper.

I would not recommend a gatukök for köttbullar (meatballs), you will most likely get instant mashed potatoes with premade meatballs. Try to find a restaurant that serves them instead, you will pay more but it will be worth it.

Although last time I was there a lot of 1960-1970s trams were still in general usage.

There are still some 1960-70s trams in use. The plan was to replace them with new trams around ten years ago, but the new trams where built by Ansaldo and have caused a lot of problems… There are however 40 new Bombardier trams on their way to replace them

I'm afraid I just noticed that the ferries were flying a green flag saying free, so spent a happy hour shuttling backwards and forwards across the harbour! I'm not sure exactly how much they cost when the flag isn't up (I suspect this is at peak times), but they are fully integrated into the transport system, so I imagine a bus and tram pass would also cover the ferries (If only that was the case here as well!)

There are two ferry routes on the river. One short (Älvsnabbare) that just goes back and forth across the river, basically a bridge replacement ferry. And one longer (Älvsnabben). Älvsnabbare is free, but Älvsnabben is not. Älvsnabben is however part of Västtrafik so their ticket rules apply. I.e. if you buy the 72 h ticket, they are included, as are all buses, trams and commuter trains run by Västtrafik within the zone. I can recommend the ferries to the southern archipelago as well.

And is there a good geographic map showing the lines? So far I only have a schematic map

Openrailwaymap shows the tracks, and together with the schematic map you can hopefully work it out.

The attitude of some foreigners in Stockholm recently suggests that Sweden could become more dangerous than its reputation suggests, as people flock here for a city break without taking the precautions requested (but not demanded) by the authorities here. Note that the Swedish line is not the face masks don’t work, just that they aren’t practical.

Short lesson on Swedish culture: Requested is to be interpreted as demanded. And I don't think anyone will mind if you where a mask. The Swedish line has also been that keeping distance and staying at home if you have symptoms is more important and masks can give people a false sense of security.
 
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