Which 60's would you like to see preserved?

[60004 lochnagar]

Following on from the 58's thread:


With a few 58's recently up for sale, and the great news 016 is saved, some will be thinking we are even closer to 60's being in the same position. Quite possibly right, too.

So if you had your choice, which would you like to see saved and why?

http://www.c60pg.co.uk

 

[Old Hill Bank]

None!!!!!!!!

 

[GNERman]

60059, last fully LoadHaul liveried class 60 in operation. Also notoriously reliable...

 

[Benbo]

Why would you not want to see any preserved?

60081 for me.

 

[GearJammer]

The 60's are like the 58's, none of them stick out from the rest in any real way other than the few special liverys... i'e 60006, 60033 in there blue/silver steel liveries, 60040 in its Territorial livery, 60074 & 60081, so theres 5 that could be preserved but do you preserve any loco based on the paint job it carries?

GNERman said 60059 is reliable, fair enough, if its still reliable when its withdrawn then preserve it, but i think what ever ones are in good condition should be the ones preserved.

If i was forced to pick one then i think it would be either 60001 (always nice to have the pioneer of a class) or 60098 which i believe carried the name 'Charles Frances Brush' who im guessing designed them.

 

[lm321412]

60059 and 60040 for me

 

[mumrar]

Any that are mechanically sound, can't be doing with all this save a train cos it once wore this paint business

 

[YorkshireBear]

Any that need little or no work for me too, reduces cost and encourages preservation, if the paint job is so important its not very expensive to just give it a repaint. One needs to be painted or preserved in load haul though. Like that livery.

 

[trains2064]

60039 because its the only one I haven't seen!

 

[LE Greys]

60039 because its the only one I haven't seen!

Just stick with me for a while, I can't avoid seeing 60039 and 60035. It's usually one or the other, and sometimes both coupled together.

Seriously, 60100 should go to the GCR. She will probably be the last main-line diesel to be built in Loughborough for the British market, and so she should be preserved near her birthplace.

 

[NightatLaira]

Funny how some locomotives like 90s and 60s already seem to be heading for the scrapheap after barely 20years in service and yet some locos like 08s and 37s just keep going and going and going...

When will someone get rid of the nodding donkeys and pacers - there's something I shant mourn when the day comes...

 

[LE Greys]

Funny how some locomotives like 90s and 60s already seem to be heading for the scrapheap after barely 20years in service and yet some locos like 08s and 37s just keep going and going and going...

When will someone get rid of the nodding donkeys and pacers - there's something I shant mourn when the day comes...

Mostly a case of running costs and reliability (plus the fact they made hundreds of them). 37s are built like bricks, and just keep working fine so many years beyond their original designed lifespan. The same is true for all sorts of things, the Douglas DC-3 for instance, a "collection of spare parts flying in loose formation" which never stops working for some reason. I suspect we'll have rusty 66s running around well into the 50s the way things are going. Not to mention Pacers lasting well into the 20s.

 

[GearJammer]

I suspect we'll have rusty 66s running around well into the 50s the way things are going.

I thought we already did have rusty 66's running around?

 

[First class]

Funny how some locomotives like 90s and 60s already seem to be heading for the scrapheap after barely 20years in service and yet some locos like 08s and 37s just keep going and going and going...

When will someone get rid of the nodding donkeys and pacers - there's something I shant mourn when the day comes...

That raises (for me) and interesting question.

When the 08 Shunters eventually have to retire, what will replace them? Sooner or later a new shunting engine will have to be built, or do you think they will go the way of Merseyrail and use battery shunting engines?

 

[LE Greys]

That raises (for me) and interesting question.

When the 08 Shunters eventually have to retire, what will replace them? Sooner or later a new shunting engine will have to be built, or do you think they will go the way of Merseyrail and use battery shunting engines?

That's actually a good point. I have a feeling we will take some version of an American switcher, modified for our loading gauge, probably a smaller industrial version. The other thing we need to look at is a new Type 3. If we stick with EMD as a supplier, imagine a GP15D squeezed into a Bo-Bo version of the Class 66 body, or perhaps a GT18LC in something similar. Replace all the former BR designs in one go, and provide something smaller than a 66 for infrastructure trains, railhead treatment and so on.

However, if anything replaces the 60, then it will probably be the Class 70.

 

[33056]

That raises (for me) and interesting question.

When the 08 Shunters eventually have to retire, what will replace them? Sooner or later a new shunting engine will have to be built, or do you think they will go the way of Merseyrail and use battery shunting engines?

Hunslet are already on to that one, click me .

 

[Bonemaster]

No less than four 60s can lay claim to having a non paint related reason to be preserved

60001 - Pioneer of the class
60015 - Last BR loco to be accepted into traffic
60098 - 1000th loco to be built be Brush
60100 - Last BR loco be to constructed

 

[mumrar]

Still none of those reasons will help if the loco is a nail. The best reasons to save one is to represent the class and because it's mechanically sound and cheap to prepare.

 

[renfespotter]

It has to be 60098 'Charles Francis Brush'

http://www.lafavre.us/brush/brushbio.htm

The naming was not without some lobby from Brush Traction when it was pointed out that he fitted the class theme of social reformers.

The locomotive should reside at the GCR along with the Class 31 and 47.

If the extension to Nottingham ever takes place then the trio will be able to pass their place of birth.

It was quite common particularly when hauling the Bournemouth York/Newcastle service for a Type 2 (Class 31) to salute its place of birth with its horn.

 

[Sherlock37]

60010. Child-hood memories... Of chasing it for about a mile on the school bus!

60062 (Samuel Johnson). He was the Uttoxeter-born Doctor (my home town).

60082 (Mam Tor). Massive mountain in Peak District, and represents the class's time in Peak Forest, etc.