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East Midlands Railway livery and station branding

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Total and utter PURE SPECULATION... but, could it be that the "outgoing" livery, seemingly to mainly be silver paint, with purple vinyls, could be preparation for transfer to CrossCountry whose base paint is also silver/grey?
Don't let me drag this off topic. Just a pondered thought committed to text.
 
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Total and utter PURE SPECULATION... but, could it be that the "outgoing" livery, seemingly to mainly be silver paint, with purple vinyls, could be preparation for transfer to CrossCountry whose base paint is also silver/grey?
Don't let me drag this off topic. Just a pondered thought committed to text.

No. It is a cheap and easy conversion job from the existing livery.
 

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The all over purple is the full livery and is being applied to trains that are staying in the fleet (only the 170s so far along with 222104). The livery with purple at each end of the train (better one) is only temporary for trains that are eventually leaving the fleet.
By the way, since last August the TOC is now EMR.

On it's outgoing fleet eg: 156, 158, 180, 222 the livery will be purple and silver.

The new fleet EMR will be keeping long term eg 170, 360 & 810 will be all over purple.

Hope this helps. :)
Fab., thank you both. Shame really!
 

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Total and utter PURE SPECULATION... but, could it be that the "outgoing" livery, seemingly to mainly be silver paint, with purple vinyls, could be preparation for transfer to CrossCountry whose base paint is also silver/grey?
Don't let me drag this off topic. Just a pondered thought committed to text.
Just for reference, there's no silver in the outgoing livery. The white with grey skirt on the 156s is untouched from their previous Anglian livery. The white with navy window surrounds on he 222s is untouched from EMT livery (pedant alert, as it was a Stagecoach livery would more accurately be described as buttermilk than white).
 

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What is going to be ‘the livery’ for EMT? All over maroon or (in my opinion) the sleeker, better maroon and silver?

I'd agree, the outgoing livery looks far more stylish than the overall colour. Maybe there could be a change of heart in EMR Towers?
 

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Could be out again tomorrow and Friday?

Friday - two trips to Leicester:

Any ideas if these are likely to run and be 180110?
These look like theyre timed on the fasts as well.
 

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Any ideas if these are likely to run and be 180110?
These look like theyre timed on the fasts as well.
Railcam's twitter says it was 180110 today. It is still blue but has some of the gray applied around the bottom.
 

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Could a west midlands 170 be being transferred to EMR tomorrow or just on a trip?https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K02266/2020-09-05/detailed. There is no return path back to Tyseley T.M.D.
i think its just for them them to use the wheel lathe there as they have before, cancelled anyway though

There’s also some movements to/from Loughborough Brush - is that for the 170s to be refurbished?
could it be for a cross country 170 taking the middle car from 170635 to get refurbished before it joins the xc fleet? or it could be a 156/158 going to get prm mods (unless they are already all done?)
 

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could it be for a cross country 170 taking the middle car from 170635 to get refurbished before it joins the xc fleet? or it could be a 156/158 going to get prm mods (unless they are already all done?)
I doubt it - the XC 170s are based at Tyseley not Etches Park. The WMR livery thread also quoted 170635’s centre car being moved by low loader.

Yes all EMR sprinter mods were finished not long after Abellio took over the franchise from Stagecoach.
 

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Could a west midlands 170 be being transferred to EMR tomorrow or just on a trip?https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K02266/2020-09-05/detailed. There is no return path back to Tyseley T.M.D.

EDIT: All scheduled movement for tomorrow https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/XEP/2020-09-05/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
As been pointed out already WM units have been coming over to use the wheel lathe at Etches Park before returning later in the day.

There’s also some movements to/from Loughborough Brush - is that for the 170s to be refurbished?
I think these are the former paths for PRM mods on the 15x fleet as there are also paths from Brush to Eastcroft and Wolverton to Etches Park showing (the latter was yesterday).
TBH, I quite like the 'outgoing livery'. It suits the units well. Perhaps they should keep it for the EMR Regional units?
I think most people like it but unfortunately it looks like it wont be staying the 170's that have arrived so far have been painted in full purple.

222013 has also been put into the outgoing livery and 180110 was out again yesterday on training runs.
 

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Can anyone confirm to me if the VP185 and EMT MK3s still run anymore please? I’m due to get a service from Leeds tomorrow towards London and was wondering what it may be.
 

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Can anyone confirm to me if the VP185 and EMT MK3s still run anymore please? I’m due to get a service from Leeds tomorrow towards London and was wondering what it may be.
Only 5 VP's remain on sets but a lot of the 'blue' coaches remain as only 2 red coach sets are in traffic so far.
 

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All 5 operational EMR VP185s were in service today with EMT Mk3s, with just the one Ex-LNER Mk3 set.
 

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Thank you both. Let's hope I have some luck then and get a full original set.
Current allocations show 43048+43058 on 1B41 0950 from Leeds tomorrow and other departures haveing red power cars and blue coaches.
 

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Re moves from Tyseley, when the time comes don't forget there is already an EMR 170/4 stored there. Can't remember which one.
 

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Re moves from Tyseley, when the time comes don't forget there is already an EMR 170/4 stored there. Can't remember which one.
The one at Tyseley is 170417. By the way, is there any update on when 170418 is moving to EMR?
 

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The one at Tyseley is 170417. By the way, is there any update on when 170418 is moving to EMR?
No idea but it worked the 1050 Edinburgh to Dundee this morning according to real time trains.
 

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Wish they'd include the purple livery on their 158s. That plain silver with red doors is very bland.
 

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Just struck me that from the front, the new EMR livery on the 170's can look fairly similar to the XC livery on the 170's. Hopefully no-one gets too confused during a quick change at Derby or Nottingham!
 

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Seems as though the 222s are being done fairly quickly - been seeing a lot more in the interim livery on the MML recently.
 
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