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Northern Unit Refurbishments and depot allocations.

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61653 HTAFC

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its getting PRM mods either way is it not
PRM mods aren't just toilets though- hence stock without toilets still needed other work. My question was because 209 currently doesn't have a toilet, will it be being fitted with one? If so, it probably kills the 3-car plan (which was already on life-support).
 

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Travelled on 156460 today. Just a cursory look around the front ends illustrate why they take so long to refurbish. Reminded me of the days when I patched up wings on old BMC cars, the corrosion was very evident. No doubt there'll be more out of sight. These pictures don't show the half of it.

Returning them to service as new must be a daunting task.

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PRM mods aren't just toilets though- hence stock without toilets still needed other work. My question was because 209 currently doesn't have a toilet, will it be being fitted with one? If so, it probably kills the 3-car plan (which was already on life-support).
Technically no toilet at all is PRM compliant as long as it’s on a journey that’s an hour or less
 

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Technically no toilet at all is PRM compliant as long as it’s on a journey that’s an hour or less
I know, that's the point I was making... and the hour limit is a myth, otherwise London Underground (among others) would be in breach of the rules.
 

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158797 on Leeds - Morecambe services today. Interior refurb as per the non connect allocated units.
 

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So from the last 3 posts would it be correct to say:-
Connect 158s have new seats, new tables and seat reservations.
Non connect units retain the existing tables and seats with new seat covers.
All refurbed units have white livery, interior repaint, led lighting, new carpets, wifi usb etc.
Is above correct?
K
 

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158797 on Leeds - Morecambe services today. Interior refurb as per the non connect allocated units.

What's the difference between refurbished connect and non connect allocated units. I'm guessing just new seats
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The connect ones have seat reservation displays I believe.

That’s it. They’ve also had the tables replaced unlike the non connect ones which have retained the chipped originals.

Do the Connect units receive USB and Wifi?

So from the last 3 posts would it be correct to say:-
Connect 158s have new seats, new tables and seat reservations.
Non connect units retain the existing tables and seats with new seat covers.
All refurbed units have white livery, interior repaint, led lighting, new carpets, wifi usb etc.
Is above correct?
K
how do we know which units are connect allocated and which units aren't
 

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The units for the North East will be connect units. From what has been said previously it will be the 16 Perkins engines units (158815-817, 842-845, 848-851, 853, 855, 859-861) plus 2 others. 845 & 849 are different in that they so far have a reservation system, new tables and info screens on the end luggage racks as per the 195’s.
 

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