Request stops...

[Howardh]

Use an app to alert the train to stop at your request stop, so you don't have to stand there and wave your arm!!

 

[Cowley]

Howard..?
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/you-know-youve-had-one-beer-too-many-when.197013/

 

[hexagon789]

Use an app to alert the train to stop at your request stop, so you don't have to stand there and wave your arm!!

Or do like the Swiss and install a button on the platform that lights up a sign to alert the driver of an approaching train to stop?

 

[Howardh]

Or do like the Swiss and install a button on the platform that lights up a sign to alert the driver of an approaching train to stop?

Like it!!

 

[hexagon789]

Like it!!

It's widely used throughout the country, the Rhaetian Railway has lots of such requests stops. A similar system is installed on the trains themselves, you press a button and the driver gets an audible and visual reminder to stop at the request stop

 

[Llanigraham]

Use an app to alert the train to stop at your request stop, so you don't have to stand there and wave your arm!!

How would that cope in areas of no mobile signal?

 

[Cowley]

Or do like the Swiss and install a button on the platform that lights up a sign to alert the driver of an approaching train to stop?

But surely we’d have to buy some light bulbs?

 

[hexagon789]

But surely we’d have to buy some light bulbs?

Just stick a few white LEDs on a poll with a solar panel for power and job done!

 

[6Gman]

Use an app to alert the train to stop at your request stop, so you don't have to stand there and wave your arm!!

How?

What would this "app" actually do?

 

[randyrippley]

Use an app to alert the train to stop at your request stop, so you don't have to stand there and wave your arm!!

What's so wrong with waving your arm? One less thing to go wrong

 

[Howardh]

How?

What would this "app" actually do?

The same as your taxi app. Log in, finds your location (is on a station) tells you the next train coming, you click on STOP and the driver and/or guard knows to stop for you.

 

[AlastairFraser]

The same as your taxi app. Log in, finds your location (is on a station) tells you the next train coming, you click on STOP and the driver and/or guard knows to stop for you.

Or,if you could get any sort of train to stop, forcing an intercity train like the Class 800 from Cardiff to London to stop at somewhere tiny like Pangbourne so you could get a fast ride into Reading would be amusing-especially the expression on the driver's face

 

[Llanigraham]

The same as your taxi app. Log in, finds your location (is on a station) tells you the next train coming, you click on STOP and the driver and/or guard knows to stop for you.

There are still plenty of places that don't have a mobile signal!

 

[6Gman]

The same as your taxi app. Log in, finds your location (is on a station) tells you the next train coming, you click on STOP and the driver and/or guard knows to stop for you.

How ?

 

[Howardh]

How ?

Because the guard and driver has an app....

 

[Karl]

There are still plenty of places that don't have a mobile signal!

There are still plenty of people who don't have a mobile phone! (Myself included)

 

[Howardh]

There are still plenty of people who don't have a mobile phone! (Myself included)

What's the minimum now in a call box? Used to be 60p in 20's - that would last me a month on my mobile!!

 

[mmh]

As with most apps, a solution looking for a problem. The train would still need to stop for hand signals, so...

Plus this would doubtless provide entertainment for those who live in sight of a request stop, defeating the whole point of them. Fun fun fun!

 

[Clip]

I'm all for modern technology and that but even I think this is going a little too far.

 

[6Gman]

Because the guard and driver has an app....

No, you'll have to explain that one to me.

I have apps on my i-phone.

To use them I have to actively switch to them and look at them.

Don't know about you but I want the driver looking at where he is going, not checking his i-phone as he goes.

Same for the guard who should be checking and issuing tickets (and checking if passengers wish to alight).

And when's the cut-off point? 5 minutes before arrival? 2 minutes before arrival?

(And, of course, what about mobile blindspots and people without the necessary equipment or aptitude?)

 

[Sprinter107]

Driver wouldnt be able to check his i phone, for a,request stop app. We are forbidden from having mobile phones on in the cab. And quite rightly so.

 

[43096]

Because the guard and driver has an app....

You are obviously unaware of cab protocols around use of mobile phones.

 

[Howardh]

You are obviously unaware of cab protocols around use of mobile phones.

OK, you win.


How would anyone from control contact the guard or driver, say in an emergency - let's say the signals are down further down the line are suddenly out of action and they both need to be made aware?

 

[Sprinter107]

Theres a radio system in the cab, so that the signaller can contact the driver when needed.

 

[Howardh]

Theres a radio system in the cab, so that the signaller can contact the driver when needed.

So they can be contacted then, they clearly have radios and other such equipment, even if not a mobile phone!

 

[Sprinter107]

The request stop system operates just fine as it is. Why over complicate it. An arm outstretched, or a torch waved on the ground at night as a couple of my passengers do is more than adequate.

 

[Howardh]

The request stop system operates just fine as it is. Why over complicate it. An arm outstretched, or a torch waved on the ground at night as a couple of my passengers do is more than adequate.

If a train was packed and approaching a request stop, and no-one can get to the guard to request a stop due to the overcrowding; would the train automatically stop on the assumption that there's a good chance someone will want to alight?
Thinking if you are on a packed bus, to get the driver to stop you ring a bell - no such thing on trains (??).

 

[Llanigraham]

OK, you win.

How would anyone from control contact the guard or driver, say in an emergency - let's say the signals are down further down the line are suddenly out of action and they both need to be made aware?

Using GSMR via the signaller.
In an emergency they would send an emergency transmission to ALL trains in the vicinity and the drivers would stop as soon as possible and acknowledge the message, or if not an emergency the driver would get to the failed signal, stop and contact the signaller.

It keeps being said in numerous threads that drivers do not have the use of mobile phones whilst they are driving. No-one has "won" anything, that is a simple fact of the Rule Book.

 

[Llanigraham]

So they can be contacted then, they clearly have radios and other such equipment, even if not a mobile phone!

Yes but NOT whilst they are driving!

 

[High Dyke]

So they can be contacted then, they clearly have radios and other such equipment, even if not a mobile phone!

They do have radio equipment in the cab. However, the signaller is not permitted to ring the driver when the train is in motion. It does have a facility for the driver to contact the signaller, once the signaller has sent the 'contact signaller' message. There are a number of rule book protocols that would need to be changed before the system is used like a normal text messaging system.