what might happen to the LNER HST in BR InterCity livery?

[Yorkshire222]

Any info on what will happen to this set? It would be a shame if it just went to scrap. Perhaps in the short term it will move to East Midlands and they'll keep it in these colours?

 

[43 302]

Any info on what will happen to this set? It would be a shame if it just went to scrap. Perhaps in the short term it will move to East Midlands and they'll keep it in these colours?

It will be stored at Ely last I heard.

 

[43096]

Any info on what will happen to this set? It would be a shame if it just went to scrap. Perhaps in the short term it will move to East Midlands and they'll keep it in these colours?

I've said it already: this set is not going to EMR.

Store at Ely is the most likely first move.

 

[43 302]

https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/charity-hst-heads-for-warm-storage

Confirmed by RAIL magazine.This really is a shame.

 

[Southern Dvr]

I thought LSL we’re having this one?

How much money can the railway waste?
Lovely as it is to see this HST in its original guise the very notion that it will now go to Ely and no doubt only leave when the axe man is ready for it is wasteful in the extreme.

 

[greatvoyager]

I thought LSL we’re having this one?

How much money can the railway waste?
Lovely as it is to see this HST in its original guise the very notion that it will now go to Ely and no doubt only leave when the axe man is ready for it is wasteful in the extreme.

Sadly most trains get a last farewell before going for scrap. To be fair though, I doubt any train from the 21st century will get such a send off.
Who knows, maybe another preservation group will be formed and take it on?

 

[43 302]

Sadly most trains get a last farewell before going for scrap. To be fair though, I doubt any train from the 21st century will get such a send off.
Who knows, maybe another preservation group will be formed and take it on?

I'm sure there will be a similar send off for the IETs, I'm sure by then they will have had a refurb with seats that are fit for humans!

 

[duffield]

I thought LSL we’re having this one?

How much money can the railway waste?
Lovely as it is to see this HST in its original guise the very notion that it will now go to Ely and no doubt only leave when the axe man is ready for it is wasteful in the extreme.

The fact that it's going into 'warm storage' seems to imply it might still have a future.

 

[Southern Dvr]

The fact that it's going into 'warm storage' seems to imply it might still have a future.

not really. All the ones at Papworth are as far as I’m aware in warm storage and most will never work again unfortunately.

 

[43096]

I thought LSL we’re having this one?

How much money can the railway waste?
Lovely as it is to see this HST in its original guise the very notion that it will now go to Ely and no doubt only leave when the axe man is ready for it is wasteful in the extreme.

The LSL thing has just been an enthusiast rumour. There has never been any word on it happening from a reliable source.

 

[duffield]

not really. All the ones at Papworth are as far as I’m aware in warm storage and most will never work again unfortunately.

So, can anyone explain what the point of 'warm storage' is (as opposed to 'cold storage')? Is it basically keeping them in running order so they can go to be scrapped under their own power?

 

[greatvoyager]

So, can anyone explain what the point of 'warm storage' is (as opposed to 'cold storage')? Is it basically keeping them in running order so they can go to be scrapped under their own power?

Is there any other option available? The sidings they are in seem to be the only free space whilst they await their fate.

 

[Energy]

Is there any other option available? The sidings they are in seem to be the only free space whilst they await their fate.

The scrapyard will be ready, there are lots of these trains and they are old, we can't keep all of them.

 

[greatvoyager]

The scrapyard will be ready, there are lots of these trains and they are old, we can't keep all of them.

The scrapyard must already be busy if lots are just warm stored.

 

[NoMorePacers]

The scrapyard must already be busy if lots are just warm stored.

It's Porterbrook - they never scrap anything.

If it was Eversholt or Angel these sets would've gone long ago.

 

[greatvoyager]

It's Porterbrook - they never scrap anything.

If it was Eversholt or Angel these sets would've gone long ago.

What else have Porterbrook owned that should've been scrapped?

 

[greatvoyager]

Seems a waste of a paintjob if it goes to scrap.

 

[cactustwirly]

It's Porterbrook - they never scrap anything.

If it was Eversholt or Angel these sets would've gone long ago.

It's an Angel owned set, the Porterbrook sets are stored at Long Marston not Ely...

 

[JonathanH]

It's Porterbrook - they never scrap anything.

Are you suggesting that they should have sent the 319s for scrap without trying to seek to reuse them?

Porterbrook sent a lot of Mark 1 EMUs for scrap.

 

[Energy]

Are you suggesting that they should have sent the 319s for scrap without trying to seek to reuse them?

Porterbrook sent a lot of Mark 1 EMUs for scrap.

The 319s shouldn't be long term and the 769 shouldn't exist in my opinion, the 769 may match a 150 for performance but they are both old trains, thameslink replaced them for a reason.

 

[JonathanH]

thameslink replaced them for a reason.

Indeed they did, but it wasn't because they were life expired. The 319s were not capable of operating the proposed Thameslink service as they couldn't run in 12-car formation and the procurement of different rolling stock was justified that could deal better with the proposed service. Porterbrook obviously still think there is life in them and cascades to secondary routes are a natural step when units are displaced from primary routes.

Back on topic, there seems to be some reason why HSTs aren't going straight to scrap but it is only temporary and it seems to affect both Angel and Porterbrook sets.

 

[Prudhoe]

Does anyone know what will happen to it next?

 

[cactustwirly]

yes

Does anyone know what will happen to it next?

It's being stored at Ely, before it probably heads to scrap

 

[221129]

It's being stored at Ely, before it probably heads to scrap

It's not heading to warm storage for it to then go on to scrap...

 

[xotGD]

Perhaps the idea of HST parcels trains is still offering a glimmer of hope for these sets in warm storage?

 

[Journeyman]

Perhaps the idea of HST parcels trains is still offering a glimmer of hope for these sets in warm storage?

I think we need to stop trying to find a use for trains which are now obsolete, increasingly unreliable and non-compliant with modern legislation.

They've had their day.

 

[greatvoyager]

I think we need to stop trying to find a use for trains which are now obsolete, increasingly unreliable and non-compliant with modern legislation.

They've had their day.

Sadly, you are right. Regardless of what happens, they 125 will always have its place in history.

 

[Journeyman]

Sadly, you are right. Regardless of what happens, they 125 will always have its place in history.

Deservedly so. They revolutionised InterCity services and have had a long and successful life, but it's time for them to go now. Technology, passenger numbers and the needs of operators have all moved on, and ScotRail made a dreadful mistake taking on old and knackered equipment.

An ECML without HSTs is going to take some getting used to, and I hope maybe one set gets saved for charters, but for everyday use, they're done. Let's stop desperately trying to find justification to keep loads of them.

 

[trainmania100]

I think it should be used for Railtour excursions by some touring company

 

[Journeyman]

I think it should be used for Railtour excursions by some touring company

There's a lot of armchair enthusiasts saying what should be done. Who pays for it? Where does it stay when not in use? Who maintains it, looks after spares, keeps it safe, ensures crews are trained on it, etc etc?