LNER Azuma Window Positioning

[lxfe_mxtterz]

Hi all.

Whilst surfing the Internet earlier, I noticed how there appear to be two different types of window to seat positioning on LNER Azumas. (That is probably worded quite badly, but it's the only way I can describe it!)

Hopefully, these pictures will help:





As you can see, the first picture shows an LNER Azuma with what appears to be higher windows. The seats look lower in comparison and the tables are at the bottom of the metal wall thing. (Please excuse my ignorance - I don't know the correct term for the "metal wall thing".)

Whereas in the second picture, the windows look much lower, giving a better view out the window. The tables are also situated towards the top of the metal wall thing here.

This isn't just an LNER quirk however, as the Google search "Class 800 interior" brings up very similar images regarding GWR's trains.

If anybody could explain to me why there appear to be two different types of design, that'd be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Bletchleyite]

The window positions aren't different, but the non-driving coaches have a higher floor to accommodate the engines underneath. This is the case whether there is an engine there or not, because it's cheaper to have only two variants.

 

[lxfe_mxtterz]

The window positions aren't different, but the non-driving coaches have a higher floor to accommodate the engines underneath. This is the case whether there is an engine there or not, because it's cheaper to have only two variants.

Ah, that makes perfect sense. Thank you!

 

[Mag_seven]

The window positions aren't different, but the non-driving coaches have a higher floor to accommodate the engines underneath. This is the case whether there is an engine there or not, because it's cheaper to have only two variants.

Which is why I avoid the driving coaches as you are seated way low down relative to the window. This is just another way in which the internal layout of these trains has completely destroyed the ambiance of travelling "inter city'. (Ironically I am typing this whist sitting in an SBB IC2000 double deck coach - the contrast between this and a class 800 is quite astounding!)

 

[Bletchleyite]

Which is why I avoid the driving coaches as you are seated way low down relative to the window. This is just another way in which the internal layout of these trains has completely destroyed the ambiance of travelling "inter city'. (Ironically I am typing this whist sitting in an SBB IC2000 double deck coach - the contrast between this and a class 800 is quite astounding!)

An SBB IC2000? Let's see...interlaced legs with the seat in front, seat so narrow that I can't physically get the armrest down, inadequate luggage space, slow doors, cramped toilets, tiny windows with a poor view out, need I go on. They're utter garbage. 80x for me any day.

 

[Doomotron]

An SBB IC2000? Let's see...interlaced legs with the seat in front, seat so narrow that I can't physically get the armrest down, inadequate luggage space, slow doors, cramped toilets, tiny windows with a poor view out, need I go on. They're utter garbage. 80x for me any day.

I checked the interior of those. They look nice at first, but then I got a very bad SNCF TER vibe from it... Cheap, not up to standard. The seats do look quite narrow, even downstairs. Even Southern's Turbostars have a nicer look inside than it.