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With the introduction of the new trains and no 1st class seating is all the current rural services now declassified

I know if a 170 goes to Lowestoft, Yarmouth or Sheringham you can sit in 1st class on standard ticket, just wondering if now the same between Norwich and Cambridge
 
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As far as I know 1ST class will only be available on the new trains between London and Norwich only and not on other routes.
 

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With the introduction of the new trains and no 1st class seating is all the current rural services now declassified

I know if a 170 goes to Lowestoft, Yarmouth or Sheringham you can sit in 1st class on standard ticket, just wondering if now the same between Norwich and Cambridge

According to this page declassification is from 2nd January next year:

Extra seats will be available for everyone on Greater Anglia trains from 2 January 2020, when the train company is ending first class on all services except intercity trains.

Greater Anglia is replacing every single train with brand new state-of-the-art longer trains from the middle of next year. Only the new intercity trains, which run between Norwich, Ipswich, Colchester and London, will have first class seating.

All other trains on commuter and regional routes will have standard class seating only.

Martin Moran, Greater Anglia Commercial and Customer Services director said: “With the combination of withdrawing first class and our new longer trains, we can provide about 20 per cent more standard seats across our network, which will reduce overcrowding and improve our customers’ experience of travelling with us.”

Research by consumer organisations and Greater Anglia has shown that customers’ key priorities are a safe, punctual and reliable service with a seat.

As passenger numbers are predicted to increase as the region grows, the best way to meet growing demand for train seats is to only provide standard seating on all routes except the longer intercity service.

The new trains will all be longer with more seats, USB and plug points, air conditioning, fast free wifi and either tables or seat-back tables for most seats. They were designed using feedback from customers and stakeholders.

New trains will come into service from the middle of next year to the end of 2020.

First class accommodation will be “declassified” on existing trains from 2 January 2020, on all trains except for Intercity services.

Greater Anglia is announcing the change now, so that all passengers, including annual season ticket holders, have more than a year’s notice of the change.

The company has written to all first class annual season ticket holders to inform them about the new policy, with details of how to swap a first class ticket for a standard ticket near the time.

Key services where only standard seating will be available from January 2020 will be Clacton to London, suburban services from Manningtree/Colchester to London - Intercity services will still offer First Class, Braintree/Witham to London, Chelmsford to London - hourly off peak intercity services will offer First Class, Southend Victoria to London, Cambridge to London via Bishops Stortford, Stansted Airport to London, Harlow to London and Hertford East to London.

https://www.greateranglia.co.uk/first-class
 

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First Class on Greater Anglia on all existing routes will now be retained until May 2020.
 

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Considering availiablity and provision will become increasingly patchy, that seems rather pointless in my view.

Agree but the info comes from GA.
They insisted that the first class symbol in the long term Dec 2019 timetables is not removed.
 

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They should change the information on their website then ;)

Agree. I suppose it's unwelcome news admitting a delay - so don't publish it as most people want notice. In politics "Spin Doctors" will keep quiet not drawing attention to an earlier promise that can't be delivered.
 

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Agree. I suppose it's unwelcome news admitting a delay - so don't publish it as most people want notice. In politics "Spin Doctors" will keep quiet not drawing attention to an earlier promise that can't be delivered.

It's not so much that as the fact that someone could see that page and assume First Class was declassified from January then end up with a fine for travelling in First Class without a First Class ticket.

GA should really ammendment the page ASAP.
 

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1st class is declassified on Liverpool Street to Hertford East but I still see people standing in the vestibule next to it because they don't know about the declassification.
 
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