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If you are referring to Great Yarmouth I thought that scheme was dead?
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Oh yes me too & very much a wilderness it is again to after all the clear up done there. Money seems no object though for storing these units & with the plan slipping who knows, it could figure once again. Be good to see the sidings I spent my youth riding to/from on the 03 pilot return to some form of life.
 
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How many miles do the new units need to do for acceptance now 2 are in passenger service?

You'd think with the long ongoing DMU shortage and state of the ones that are still limping along they would try and get some more FLIRTS into service and take the short set and the 15x units out of their misery?
 
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dk1 said:
Right, now I have just popped my cherry by actually travelling on a Stadler in this country. Ironic as I'm supposed to be driving them I am still no nearer stepping into any cab other than the simulator :lol:

Impressed is an understatement. They are most certainly the best of all the new trains introduced in the UK In the last couple of years. The only of these I have yet to sample are the 385s North of the border & MK5 Slep vehicles. Acceleration (in diesel mode) was excellent as was the ride & seat comfort. Can't wait to thrash a 3-car in pan-up :p PIS was very informative too. If I had to make a slight criticism it would be the brightness of interior lighting & the loudness of the door release alarm but these are industry standards & re quirements for PRM. They are almost too good for us East Anglians as we are not normally top of the tree when it comes to new trains. I have to keep pinching myself.
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Where will the 755s be running on electric power?
 
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chubs said:
How many miles do the new units need to do for acceptance now 2 are in passenger service?

You'd think with the long ongoing DMU shortage and state of the ones that are still limping along they would try and get some more FLIRTS into service and take the short set and the 15x units out of their misery?
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It's going as intensively as is possible but apart from testing the training is a mammoth task too. At Norwich every available driver wishing to work rest days is doing so & still there have been as many as eleven turns uncovered daily with the Shift Traincrew Managers doing a stirling job to keep everything running. People don't realise what's going on behind the scenes.
 
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But this with the Bridge and the weight of a train , I'm not totally familiar with exactly what trains are what in the Stadler fleet , Eg the units that appear to have only four cars
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Sudbury line is planned to only have the 755/3 units operating on it, e.g 3 short carriages and a power unit. That 62 metre long train is as long as it can support without extensive additional infrastructure works and will still be longer than any existing service at a current maximum of 40 metres in length.
 
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dk1 said:
It's going as intensively as is possible but apart from testing the training is a mammoth task too. At Norwich every available driver wishing to work rest days is doing so & still there have been as many as eleven turns uncovered daily with the Shift Traincrew Managers doing a stirling job to keep everything running. People don't realise what's going on behind the scenes.
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Sounds like a recipe for chaos. Another TOC where every member of train crew needs training on new traction in a short period, with a stupidly optimistic view taken as to how it will be achieved. Echos of the GWR fiasco last year.
 
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dk1 said:
It's going as intensively as is possible but apart from testing the training is a mammoth task too. At Norwich every available driver wishing to work rest days is doing so & still there have been as many as eleven turns uncovered daily with the Shift Traincrew Managers doing a stirling job to keep everything running. People don't realise what's going on behind the scenes.
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Ah fair enough, looking forward to seeing more units about soon.
 
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Sounds like a recipe for chaos. Another TOC where every member of train crew needs training on new traction in a short period, with a stupidly optimistic view taken as to how it will be achieved. Echos of the GWR fiasco last year.
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No service cancellations this end though & there are still next to call drivers with phones on & available for Sunday turns ;)
 
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chubs said:
Ah fair enough, looking forward to seeing more units about soon.
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What will probably happen suddenly in the next couple of months is we will hit a critical mass of trained crews and they will suddenly just appear everywhere
 
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fat_boy_pete said:
Sudbury line is planned to only have the 755/3 units operating on it, e.g 3 short carriages and a power unit. That 62 metre long train is as long as it can support without extensive additional infrastructure works and will still be longer than any existing service at a current maximum of 40 metres in length.
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Surely the 156 units are longer than 20 metres, the Marsden book quotes 23.03M for each car.
 
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delticdave said:
Surely the 156 units are longer than 20 metres, the Marsden book quotes 23.03M for each car.
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It is less the overall length that is the issue, more the door positioning. The Flirts are longer, but their more central door position reduces required platform space significantly. Front door to rear door, a four car flirt is only about 2m longer than a 3 car 170.
 
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maybe the PIS needs abit more work before it spreads out further across all the routes, as caught 755417 paying a visit to Ipswich last week,which seemed convinced it was heading back to Norwich calling at Newmarket, Stowmarket... who knows maybe it was but I suspect it really meant Needham Market :)
 
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nothing on the horizon yet for the EMU flirts on Stansted Exp or Norwich-London?
 
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