The Transport Game (UK)

[ValleyLines142]

GENERAL QUERY

How long does it take to walk the quickest possible walking route in Melksham from Market Place to the railway station and what distance is that?

You just walk straight up along Bank Street and Bath Road but it's probably about 15 minutes and about 0.8 miles.

 

[DanTrain]

We then board the 1725 Faresaver service X72 to Melksham (Market Place), arriving there at 1805 on Wednesday evening.

With the railway station out of reach, we instead board the 18:17 First Bristol, Bath & the West service D3 to Bowerhill, Kingfisher Drive, arriving at 18:34 Wednesday evening.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

We next board the 1908 First West of England service D3 to Chapel Plaister (Fiveways) that arrives there at 1940 on Wednesday evening.

 

[ValleyLines142]

We then board the 2049 First West of England Discover service D3 to Batheaston (Clarence Gardens), arriving there at 2101 on Wednesday evening.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

We then board the 2049 First West of England Discover service D3 to Batheaston (Clarence Gardens), arriving there at 2101 on Wednesday evening.

QUERY.....Is this the same Clarence Gardens that my records show as being in Bailbrook?

If so, we next board the 2142 First West of England Discover service D3 to Whitley (First Lane) that arrives there at 2205 on Wednesday evening.

 

[ValleyLines142]

QUERY.....Is this the same Clarence Gardens that my records show as being in Bailbrook?

No, it's in Batheaston. I lived there for six months

There is no such settlement called Bailbrook. There is a hotel called Bailbrook House, but that is about it.

What sources are you using?

If so, we next board the 2142 First West of England Discover service D3 to Whitley (First Lane) that arrives there at 2205 on Wednesday evening.

We then board the 2238 First West of England Discover service D3 to Bath (Grand Parade), arriving there at 2312 on Wednesday evening.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

There is no such settlement called Bailbrook. There is a hotel called Bailbrook House, but that is about it. What sources are you using?

The advanced geographical timetable version of Traveline.

 

[DanTrain]

We then board the 2238 First West of England Discover service D3 to Bath (Grand Parade), arriving there at 2312 on Wednesday evening.

Here we walk the 0.4 miles to the station, where we grab a hot drink and bide our time before boarding the 01:16 GWR service 1C36 to Newport, arriving at 02:10 Thursday morning.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Newport is 100% not the place to be left at 2.10am, so we retire for a few hours before taking the eight minute walk to Market Square bus station, where we board the 0520 Newport Bus service 8C to Ringland (Sterndale Bennett Road), arriving there at 0537 on Thursday morning.

 

[DanTrain]

Here we board the 06:40 New Adventure Travel service X5 to St Mellons, opp Police Station, arriving at 07:38 Thursday morning.

 

[ValleyLines142]

We then board the 0754 Cardiff Bus service X45 to Grangetown (Avondale Gardens), arriving there at 0858 on Thursday morning.

 

[Andy Pacer]

We then take the 0906 Cardiff Bus service X45 to Cardiff, Westgate Street arriving there at 0923 on Thursday morning.

 

[Esker-pades]

We take the 8 minute walk to Central station where we board the 09:45 CrossCountry service to Gloucester, arriving there at 10:43 on a Thursday.

 

[Andy Pacer]

We then take the 1122 Transport for Wales service to Cheltenham Spa arriving there at 1132 on Thursday morning.

 

[Esker-pades]

We then board the 12:11 CrossCountry service to Montrose, arriving there at 20:05 on a Thursday.

 

[Andy Pacer]

We then take the 2020 Scotrail service to Glasgow Queen Street arriving at 2221 on Thursday.

 

[hst43102]

We then walk 0.4 miles (7 minutes) to Buchanan Bus Station and catch the 2315 Stagecoach West Scotland service X74 to Beattock, arriving at 00.50 on Friday.

 

[Esker-pades]

We then walk 0.4 miles (7 minutes) to Buchanan Bus Station and catch the 2315 Stagecoach West Scotland service X74 to Beattock, arriving at 00.50 on Friday.

Where in Beattock does this bus stop?

 

[hst43102]

Where in Beattock does this bus stop?

The X74 takes the A74 up to Beattock, then through the village, stopping outside the Stables Inn, Primary School, and Cleuchbrae Rd before taking the A701 south towards Dumfries.

 

[Esker-pades]

The X74 takes the A74 up to Beattock, then through the village, stopping outside the Stables Inn, Primary School, and Cleuchbrae Rd before taking the A701 south towards Dumfries.

With buses, one has to specify the exact bus stop that one is chosing to get off at.

 

[hst43102]

With buses, one has to specify the exact bus stop that one is chosing to get off at.

Right, thanks! Take the stop outside the inn and have a pint before moving on!

 

[Esker-pades]

We then walk 0.4 miles (7 minutes) to Buchanan Bus Station and catch the 2315 Stagecoach West Scotland service X74 to Beattock, Old Stables Inn, arriving at 00.50 on Friday.

Noting the above, we take an overnight before returning to the bus stop and boarding the 06:01 Stagecoach West Scotland route 101A to Tollcross, Home Street, arriving there at 08:09 on a Friday.

 

[ValleyLines142]

We then board the 0822 Lothian Buses service 27 to Silverknowes (Silverknowes Parkway), arriving there at 0903 on Friday morning.

 

[Esker-pades]

We then board the 09:17 Lothian Buses route 29 service to Gorebridge, Gorebridge Inn, arriving there at 10:42 on a Friday.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

We next board the 1100 Lothian Buses service 29 to Nether Liberton (the bus stop opposite Lady Road on Liberton Road) that arrives there at 1138 on Friday morning.

 

[ValleyLines142]

The advanced geographical timetable version of Traveline.

Yes, I wouldn't rely on that to decipher a location to be honest. It's great for bus times, as I believe it is linked directly to bus operator's timetables themselves, but geographically it isn't accurate.

You're better off using the operator's timetables themselves.

I note a similar discussion has come up before on this.

We next board the 1100 Lothian Buses service 29 to Nether Liberton (the bus stop opposite Lady Road on Liberton Road) that arrives there at 1138 on Friday morning.

We then board the 1144 Lothian Buses service 3 to Clovenstone* (Clovenstone Drive), arriving there at 1243 on Friday afternoon.

* Traveline has this listed as being in Wester Hailes, even though Wester Hailes is considerably further northwards. You'll also notice that service 3 buses display Clovenstone on the blinds.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Yes, I wouldn't rely on that to decipher a location to be honest. It's great for bus times, as I believe it is linked directly to bus operator's timetables themselves, but geographically it isn't accurate. You're better off using the operator's timetables themselves. I note a similar discussion has come up before on this.

I remember that past discussion only too well and at that time, I contacted Traveline regarding their naming of geographical locations in their advanced version of their website information. They said their geographical information was based upon local authority city, town and village boundary details that are in the public domain.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

We then board the 1144 Lothian Buses service 3 to Clovenstone* (Clovenstone Drive), arriving there at 1243 on Friday afternoon.

* Traveline has this listed as being in Wester Hailes, even though Wester Hailes is considerably further northwards. You'll also notice that service 3 buses display Clovenstone on the blinds.

We next board the 1250 Lothian Buses service 30 to Musselburgh (the bus stop opposite the Police Station on High Street) that arrives there at 1420 on Friday afternoon.

 

[Andy Pacer]

We take the 1430 East Coast Buses service 124 to Edinburgh, Princes Street Stop PP arriving there at 1502 on Friday.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Yes, I wouldn't rely on that to decipher a location to be honest. It's great for bus times, as I believe it is linked directly to bus operator's timetables themselves, but geographically it isn't accurate. You're better off using the operator's timetables themselves. I note a similar discussion has come up before on this.

Noting what you say above and indeed remembering the previous discussion on geographical description, yesterday I contacted Traveline and put your views forward to them for comment. This morning, they contacted me to say that in their advanced timetable facility, they take geographical area names from city, town and village Local Authority information that is in the public domain.