What's happened to Retro Railtours?

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Does anyone know?

 

[yorkie]

James is at Uni, and is planning a tour for Summer 2010 (maybe Spring)

You can send him a PM asking him but I'm sure he'll be along to answer in this topic shortly...

 

[Drimnagh Road]

James is at Uni, and is planning a tour for Summer 2010 (maybe Spring)

Will it be air-con stock again?

 

[yorkie]

He is likely to use Cargo-D stock, so it is likely to be a yes. Do they have any non-aircons? I am not sure.

 

[4SRKT]

Will it be air-con stock again?

Don't ask this. I nearly got hounded off this forum for daring to suggest that tour operators should publicise the type of stock they operate, so that air-con dislikers such as myself can make informed decisions. The level of animosity from certain quarters toward this suggestion was quite unbelievable.

 

[yorkie]

there will hopefully be one non-aircon and the end of May is when the next tour is planned, to a seaside destination. a meeting is taking place this weekend, and an announcement may follow...

 

[theblackwatch]

He is likely to use Cargo-D stock, so it is likely to be a yes. Do they have any non-aircons? I am not sure.

Cargo-D are to lease a Mk. 2b TSO which is being restored at the Mid Norfolk Railway for main line use. It should be ready in the Spring. I wonder how many will be prepared to pay a 'front coach supplement'?

 

[Drimnagh Road]

Glad to hear cargo-D are getting a pressure vent (p/v) coach, as no doubt the likes of Retro and Rail Blue to name a few have lost on potential custom due to not having same on their tours.

You are quite right 4SRKT in that tour operators should advertise what stock they are using. I refuse in general to travel with Chingfinder in protest at their high prices, but decided to do the Cornish Parker tour on May 16th because 37670 had been returned to traffic and I assumed they'd be using the usual mk1s. Got totally bowled out when I arrived at Crewe to find an ex Virgin mk2f set sat in the platform.

As for front coach supplement? I don't think so, I will plain right refuse to travel on a tour if they charge you to travel in the non a/c coach when the likes of Spitfire have p/v stock as standard.

 

[metrocammel]

Hello There!

We are having a meeting with Cargo-D later this week, and our next tour will be announced very shortly!

As for the stock situation, we have discussed this before. We feel Cargo-D's rolling stock is of very high standard, which is why we work in conjunction with them. They have indeed acquired a p/v coach, which we are hoping will be ready for our next tour. Obviously, as this is a single vehicle, 'non aircon' seats on the train will be limited - it is likely to be first come, first served.

 

[alex57601]

Don't ask this. I nearly got hounded off this forum for daring to suggest that tour operators should publicise the type of stock they operate, so that air-con dislikers such as myself can make informed decisions. The level of animosity from certain quarters toward this suggestion was quite unbelievable.

Only because you ask the same question for EVERY tour you show an interest in, and refuse to accept the reasons that me and several others post when you start throwing your toys out of the pram. :roll:

If the stock situation bothers you that much then contact promoters directly, rather than filling up forum threads asking questions and then whingeing if the answer is provided but you don't like it.

Glad to hear cargo-D are getting a pressure vent (p/v) coach, as no doubt the likes of Retro and Rail Blue to name a few have lost on potential custom due to not having same on their tours.

Rail-Blue Charters are the trading name for Cargo-D's charter operations.

You are quite right 4SRKT in that tour operators should advertise what stock they are using. I refuse in general to travel with Chingfinder in protest at their high prices, but decided to do the Cornish Parker tour on May 16th because 37670 had been returned to traffic and I assumed they'd be using the usual mk1s. Got totally bowled out when I arrived at Crewe to find an ex Virgin mk2f set sat in the platform.

As for front coach supplement? I don't think so, I will plain right refuse to travel on a tour if they charge you to travel in the non a/c coach when the likes of Spitfire have p/v stock as standard.

There's a flaw with your statement about Spitfire and advertising what stock will be on it because sometimes promoters do not know what they get until nearer the time, especially as those who have used WCRC in the past will tell you (rakes of Mk2s and Manchester Pullman FOs vice Mk1s, and seating implications when a Manchester Pullman FO is dropped onto the rake). Sometimes you get what you're given, but if you want specifics be prepared to pay for it.

With the front coach supplement, in my view it's no different to paying Monarch extra money to be able to pick which seat you want to sit in when you fly to Malaga, be it at the front or the back. If you really want a specific seat in a specific coach you can request it, but be prepared to pay for it. Otherwise, take what you are given.

 

[4SRKT]

Only because you ask the same question for EVERY tour you show an interest in, and refuse to accept the reasons that me and several others post when you start throwing your toys out of the pram. :roll:

If the stock situation bothers you that much then contact promoters directly, rather than filling up forum threads asking questions and then whingeing if the answer is provided but you don't like it.



Rail-Blue Charters are the trading name for Cargo-D's charter operations.



There's a flaw with your statement about Spitfire and advertising what stock will be on it because sometimes promoters do not know what they get until nearer the time, especially as those who have used WCRC in the past will tell you (rakes of Mk2s and Manchester Pullman FOs vice Mk1s, and seating implications when a Manchester Pullman FO is dropped onto the rake). Sometimes you get what you're given, but if you want specifics be prepared to pay for it.

With the front coach supplement, in my view it's no different to paying Monarch extra money to be able to pick which seat you want to sit in when you fly to Malaga, be it at the front or the back. If you really want a specific seat in a specific coach you can request it, but be prepared to pay for it. Otherwise, take what you are given.

Oh lord! He's back!

 

[alex57601]

Someone has to keep you in check!

 

[37401]

and our next tour will be announced very shortly!

Good to hear, I might (just might) even book on it

 

[Chester025]

Heard there may be something big and blue at the end of May...

 

[theblackwatch]

Heard there may be something big and blue at the end of May...

Given that the next tour is the 'Deltic Retro Scot 2' you just might be correct there!

 

[yorkie]

A little bit of an update here: http://www.retrorailtours.co.uk/rt4.php

More info within a week.

 

[danny9921]

Ill be 100% Defo on this tour like always gunna be great to hopefully have 55022 mainline with 2 working engains

 

[37401]

Ill be 100% Defo on this tour like always gunna be great to hopefully have 55022 mainline with 2 working engains

1. Its Engines
2. cant be certain its going to be on 2 engines but heres hoping

not a fan of deltics but I hope James and the rest of the gang at Retro can pull it off, all the best

 

[Drimnagh Road]

1. Its Engines
2. cant be certain its going to be on 2 engines but heres hoping

not a fan of deltics but I hope James and the rest of the gang at Retro can pull it off, all the best

1. Who cares about the spelling.
2. It will have to be running on two engines, it is getting one of D9016s engines

 

[alex57601]

2. cant be certain its going to be on 2 engines but heres hoping

If it doesn't have two working engines in 3 months time it won't get sent out, hence why it hasn't operated a charter on the mainline since August 2008. Barring any problems with transplanting the working engine from D9016 into 55022, I don't see why nobody can't be certain - the engine for transplant was working only a few weeks ago! But that said, if the people involved weren't confident of it being on two engines in a few months time I doubt they would be taking bookings for it to be used on tours.

 

[yorkie]

1. Who cares about the spelling.

Everyone who isn't thick, I'd have thought.

If anyone has any difficulty spelling, I recommend using Firefox and then going to Tools > Add Ons, and add British English Dictionary. Easy! No excuses (unless you're using a mobile device)!

Firefox is more secure and faster than IE. And using a spell check is good practice because it helps you learn all the time. This could, ultimately, be the difference between getting a job and being on the dole. Many employers take a dim view of spelling mistakes, they make you look stupid.

 

[theblackwatch]

2. cant be certain its going to be on 2 engines but heres hoping

Are there any locos you can be certain of being on a specific number of engines (be it one or two, depending how many they have) in over 3 months time?

 

[Drimnagh Road]

I'm not going to start dragging out an argument over spelling. The fact is, when somebody makes a spelling mistake 99% of the time we all know what was meant to be said.

We're not applying for jobs on this site (unless I've missed something) or in English class, this is a forum where hobbyists and whoever else wants to discuss all things trains, if people want to sit by and wait to jump on somebody for making a spelling mistake, then I'm glad they have the time to do so.

But, in reality there's no need for nit picking. On a humorous note, we could always start a poll to see who does care about spelling.

 

[37401]

But, in reality there's no need for nit picking. On a humorous note, we could always start a poll to see who does care about spelling.

Don't give poshbakerloo ideas

 

[metrocammel]

Are there any locos you can be certain of being on a specific number of engines (be it one or two, depending how many they have) in over 3 months time?

Quite, by the very nature of this industry, there is no such thing as '100%'. FYI, Mr. 37401, we are in the business running railtours that we intend to run, thus, satisfying our customers- not playing trains. If we advertise a loco, we expect it to be that loco FULL STOP.

 

[Moodster020]

Excellent news!, should be on this.

 

[37401]

FYI, Mr. 37401, we are in the business running railtours that we intend to run, thus, satisfying our customers- not playing trains. If we advertise a loco, we expect it to be that loco FULL STOP.

Yeah I know,wasnt having a pop or anything like that just saying you cant be 100% on anything these days, however it does look like it will be on 2 engines come your tour, all the best for you if times and such work for me you may well see me on the day. do you let peeps pay on the day?

 

[Techniquest]

I would love to do this tour, been dying to get behind RSG with two engines (don't recall if she was on The Cornish Explorer of June 2008 or not) and to travel on at least some of their old stomping ground. I don't see my presence being too likely though, as I'm also planning another trip for The Black Angels and have bills to pay/contribute towards later this month.

Still, who knows, I might win a sum of some sort on the lottery tomorrow...

 

[metrocammel]

Deltic Retro Scot 2 - Bank Holiday Monday 31st May 2010

Bookings are now open!


http://www.retrorailtours.co.uk/rt4.php


Once again, I hope to see lot's of you onboard!

 

[Moodster020]

Once again, I hope to see lot's of you onboard!

Indeed, i just booked on it