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Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion

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OmniCity999

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Jordan Adam said:
The B8RLE comes as no surprise, most of us have known (albeit unofficially) that ADL were planning on doing a body for the B8RLE for almost a year now. However the B8RLEA (Artic variant) is a pleasant surprise, for obvious reasons if Lothian were to buy these it would most likely be for the 30.
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Which would explain the route change in Musselburgh
 
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I think LVF is having a fit today. It says 21 buses on route 1! Inc some from Marine! Also says 1119, 1120, 1121 and 1124 are on the road too which I don't think is correct?
 
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SpeedbirdA350 said:
I think LVF is having a fit today. It says 21 buses on route 1! Inc some from Marine! Also says 1119, 1120, 1121 and 1124 are on the road too which I don't think is correct?
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Odd one. It is listing all the B5TL'S that are operating on the special service 98 today.

As for 1119 etc. That may be true. As well as the 11,16 and 31 service 7 also has three new buses in service today.
 
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OmniCity999 said:
Which would explain the route change in Musselburgh
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The section is from a corner up to the next right opening then first right back down behind the properties previously passed to turn left to come out about 50yards from the original corner.
The latter section is narrow with loads of parked cars
 
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Random observation, could anyone back this up. But all the withdrawb B7s have blinds and not 1 with LEDs have been withdrawn, are lothian withdrawing them based on that?
 
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Looking at 1120 for example,

Vehicle LRT 1120 () (now RGB - 175) has been used as follows :-
Route Date From Until
16 21-06-2019 07:50 23:02
11 21-06-2019 07:48 23:05
11 21-06-2019 06:53 23:00
31 21-06-2019 06:46 23:00
16 21-06-2019 06:46 23:24

Hard to know which service it actually ran on, what RGB is and 175?

Thanks for confirming they are on the road though.
 
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ScotRail158725 said:
Random observation, could anyone back this up. But all the withdrawb B7s have blinds and not 1 with LEDs have been withdrawn, are lothian withdrawing them based on that?
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There's still a few of Longstone's ex Central ones with blinds going around, I think they are withdrawing by age/condition. I feel like a few Hanover ones have been withdrawn too, possibly 55 plates
 
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FlybeDash8Q400 said:
There's still a few of Longstone's ex Central ones with blinds going around, I think they are withdrawing by age/condition. I feel like a few Hanover ones have been withdrawn too, possibly 55 plates
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709/719-721/723/726-733/735-736/740-745/747-750/769-770/773/776-777/779/782-783/785 are the withdrawn ones. With the first batch Central B7s went to Longstone to start replacing 55 plates but with the 1105-1125 batch all of the remaining Central B7s with blinds were withdrawn while the 2 with LEDs (774/823) have moved to Longstone. They could be doing it on age/condition but its a bit coincidental that all with LEDs are still out and only ones with blinds arent. To back my point up aswell all of Marines 55 plates were withdrawn March/April except 746 which is still on the road and thats the only Marine 55 plate with LEDs
 
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ScotRail158725 said:
709/719-721/723/726-733/735-736/740-745/747-750/769-770/773/776-777/779/782-783/785 are the withdrawn ones. With the first batch Central B7s went to Longstone to start replacing 55 plates but with the 1105-1125 batch all of the remaining Central B7s with blinds were withdrawn while the 2 with LEDs (774/823) have moved to Longstone. They could be doing it on age/condition but its a bit coincidental that all with LEDs are still out and only ones with blinds arent. To back my point up aswell all of Marines 55 plates were withdrawn March/April except 746 which is still on the road and thats the only Marine 55 plate with LEDs
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Ones with blinds are still out, I seen 812 and 817 yesterday, then 818 and 819 the day before
 
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Swampy21 said:
Does anyone know if this site is still being maintained or if the owner is up to their eyes?
https://bushobbyist.wixsite.com/bushobbyist/home

I only ask because I've found it extremely useful where vehicle allocations>route>PVR information is given.

TIA.
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I'm not sure about the site per say but the guy who updates the list, @OmniCity999, will update it soon he said. Work comes first thorugh as that's what puts food on the table. But I do agree with you about how useful it is.
 
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So when do you expect timetable information will be released for all these changes? I’m very intrigued with the 21 and 48 changes, especially if the 21 will be a part route service again
 
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Does anyone know the whereabouts of the last few operational Tridents? Have they been sold? Dont seem to be with stored buses at Marine. Only saw one 53 plate there the other day.
 
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TheEastCoaster said:
So when do you expect timetable information will be released for all these changes? I’m very intrigued with the 21 and 48 changes, especially if the 21 will be a part route service again
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I’d say they’ll come out about a week before the changes - so around July 7 in this case. This gives people a reasonable amount of time to realise their journey may have changed, and to look up new times if applicable.
 
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scotrail158713 said:
I’d say they’ll come out about a week before the changes - so around July 7 in this case. This gives people a reasonable amount of time to realise their journey may have changed, and to look up new times if applicable.
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Isnt there a law, where companies have to release the timetable information 21 days before a change? or is that just give notification of the changes?
 
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scotrail158713 said:
I’m not 100% sure but I think it might just be notification of the changes.
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That's my take on it too, although I'm similarly not absolutely sure. My understanding is that companies need to register what routes and times they will run, and give the appropriate notice to Traffic Commissioner and affected councils. But there's no legal obligation to provide detailed information about it to their customers or competitors, obviously it's good practice though.
Fares are even worse, where companies can just make them up as they go along without any notice to anyone.
 
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alchemy said:
Does anyone know the whereabouts of the last few operational Tridents? Have they been sold? Dont seem to be with stored buses at Marine. Only saw one 53 plate there the other day.
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629/630/633/665 are at Marine the later 3 are behind the B7s however all the rest have been sold except 699? Ive got a list of where they (most of them) have been sold to
 
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overthewater said:
Isnt there a law, where companies have to release the timetable information 21 days before a change? or is that just give notification of the changes?
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They have to submit the new timetable to the relevant traffic commissioner ahead of time (56 days?) but I don't think there's any stipulations as to when the public should be told.
 
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TheEastCoaster said:
So when do you expect timetable information will be released for all these changes? I’m very intrigued with the 21 and 48 changes, especially if the 21 will be a part route service again
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21 definitely part route again... spoke to a couple of drivers who say they’ve already been allocated duties which include vans to/from Lochend for some 21 changeovers.
 
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I think the 21 days prior, for timetable info etc, is more of a best practice guideline, rather than an actual legal requirement. However, with a few noticeable exceptions, it seems to be widely ignored.
 
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