Northern's North West Electrics

[Andyh82]

Am I right in thinking that the following services are the ones that Northern run with electric units in the North West?

Liverpool Lime Street - Wigan North Western (2 per hour)
Liverpool Lime Street - Blackpool North via Wigan North Western & Preston (Semi Fast)
Liverpool Lime Street - Warrington Bank Quay
Hazel Grove - Manchester Piccadilly - Blackpool North (Semi Fast)
Manchester Airport - Manchester Piccadilly - Blackpool North (Semi Fast)
Manchester Victoria - Preston via Bolton
Liverpool Lime Street - Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport - Crewe via Newton-le-Willows
Manchester Piccadilly - Crewe via Stockport
Manchester Piccadilly - Stoke on Trent
Manchester Piccadilly - Glossop & Hadfield (2 per hour)

Have I missed any?

Besides Glossop & Hadfield's, where are class 323's most likely to pop up?

 

[Starmill]

Besides Glossop & Hadfield's, where are class 323's most likely to pop up?

The most likely place to find them after services to Hadfield is services to Stoke-on-Trent, where I think all but one service is a 323.

They are somewhat dispersed around services to Crewe (via Stockport and via Manchester Airport) and Liverpool Lime Street, which includes some services to Warrington Bank Quay. They're generally not found on services to Hazel Grove any more, but there might be one or two still left, and the other day I was on one working an evening Manchester Piccadilly to Alderley Edge, which is an off pattern service at 2301. One poster on here claimed that a 323 would work the 1945 Liverpool Lime Street to Wigan North Western on Saturday nights, I don't know if it has done (Edit: not yet, apparently).

I have heard that 319s have been used on some days on services from Manchester Airport to Preston via Wigan North Western. I don't know if that's something that happens frequently, and it is only a handful of daily services and that only for a few weeks more. Others might know more what has been working these services.

 

[Bevan Price]

Some days, they are short of workable emus, so don't be surprised if you see a few workings covered by dmus, including 2 coach Pacers....

 

[Bovverboy]

I have heard that 319s have been used on some days on services from Manchester Airport to Preston via Wigan North Western. I don't know if that's something that happens frequently, and it is only a handful of daily services and that only for a few weeks more. Others might know more what has been working these services.

A 319 is currently working a diagram (Mondays to Saturdays only) Manchester Airport - Wigan North Western - Preston. As things stand this arrangement is due to come to an end after 29 June, but this date may slip. Other journeys on this section continue to Barrow or Windermere and are, therefore, DMU-operated.

To balance this use of a 319, one diagram on Manchester - Liverpool (via Chat Moss) is currently being DMU-operated (on Mondays to Fridays), and this arrangement, too, should finish at the end of this month. As 24 of Northern's 27 319s are scheduled for all-day service on Mondays to Saturdays, DMU substitution on other 319 diagrams is not unknown, but could not be said to be a daily occurrence.

 

[_toommm_]

The use of 323s is now more prevalent M-F on the Lime Street to Crewe via Airport stoppers. The 06:28 Lime St to Crewe has been a 323 without fail since the timetable change.