Northern Unit Refurbishments and depot allocations.

[anamyd]

I assume the same principal is for the 333s

yeah and 331s and 332s, oops

 

[Harvey B]

Would someone be kind enough to make us a list please? I find them quite helpful.

If not, may someone at least tell me the current status on the refurbishments and I’ll make it?

@507021 has one which is updated monthly:
https://merseyrailpep507.blogspot.com/p/unofficial-northern-fleet-list.html

 

[jonesy3001]

should be 150117 on this;

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97240/2019/06/05/advanced

150114 and 121 went back to NH yesterday from doncaster but didn't see movement on RTT as it was playing up.

 

[jonesy3001]

should be 150117 on this;

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97240/2019/06/05/advanced

150114 and 121 went back to NH yesterday from doncaster but didn't see movement on RTT as it was playing up.

150117 now at doncaster, just seen it on the new doncaster cam.

 

[507021]

150117 now at doncaster, just seen it on the new doncaster cam.

Thanks for sharing these updates, much appreciated.

 

[jonesy3001]

Thanks for sharing these updates, much appreciated.

Happy to help

 

[superkev]

@507021 has one which is updated monthly:
https://merseyrailpep507.blogspot.com/p/unofficial-northern-fleet-list.html

Just been updated many thanks to merseyrailpep507.
With 7 months to go I count 54 units still to PRM, more if you include the various phases of redecorating. That around 2 a week.
K

 

[jonesy3001]

Just been updated many thanks to merseyrailpep507.
With 7 months to go I count 54 units still to PRM, more if you include the various phases of redecorating. That around 2 a week.
K

57 i've counted, 74 if you count the 323s that are going for PRM work after WMT have completed their 323s
Some are going back in the purple livery after PRM mods even the some of the former WMT 150/1s (103/110-119/132), probably getting that out of the way before refurb unless northern start sending more up when the CAF units start entering service.
The former GWR and original NH 150/1s are going back in the plain blue and white after mods.

 

[Harvey B]

57 i've counted, 74 if you count the 323s that are going for PRM work after WMT have completed their 323s
Some are going back in the purple livery after PRM mods even the some of the former WMT 150/1s (103/110-119/132), probably getting that out of the way before refurb unless northern start sending more up when the CAF units start entering service.
The former GWR and original NH 150/1s are going back in the plain blue and white after mods.

How many units are going for refurbishment ? (counting the 323s) and are there any more units transferring to Northern? (excludes 323s)

 

[jonesy3001]

How many units are going for refurbishment ? (counting the 323s) and are there any more units transferring to Northern? (excludes 323s)

the WMT 323s won't transfer til theres enough 730s to cover them and it would be easier to PRM mod the units first then send them for refurb before the 2020 deadline.

 

[Harvey B]

the WMT 323s won't transfer til theres enough 730s to cover them and it would be easier to PRM mod the units first then send them for refurb before the 2020 deadline.

Are there any more DMU's transferring?

 

[jonesy3001]

Are there any more DMU's transferring?

All the DMUs have been transferred from the TOCs. No more for a long time

 

[superkev]

57 i've counted, 74 if you count the 323s that are going for PRM work after WMT have completed their 323s
Some are going back in the purple livery after PRM mods even the some of the former WMT 150/1s (103/110-119/132), probably getting that out of the way before refurb unless northern start sending more up when the CAF units start entering service.
The former GWR and original NH 150/1s are going back in the plain blue and white after mods.

I stand corrected. It was a quick count. Strangely when I went back on the site the 331 listing seems to have reverted to all unallocated.
K

 

[507021]

I stand corrected. It was a quick count. Strangely when I went back on the site the 331 listing seems to have reverted to all unallocated.
K

I've decided to leave the new units as unallocated until they enter service, just to avoid any potential confusion.

 

[superkev]

I've decided to leave the new units as unallocated until they enter service, just to avoid any potential confusion.

Thanks
K

 

[Harvey B]

All the DMUs have been transferred from the TOCs. No more for a long time

there must be something because the total number of units going for refurbishment should be 243 (which excludes 323s, Thameslink 319s and 769s) but when i've added all the numbers up I've not got 243 (unless I've gone wrong). So I've come to two possibilities:
1) the Thameslink 319s that were supposed to be on a short term loan are now staying for a longer period
2) I've gone wrong in maths somewhere

 

[jonesy3001]

there must be something because the total number of units going for refurbishment should be 243 (which excludes 323s, Thameslink 319s and 769s) but when i've added all the numbers up I've not got 243 (unless I've gone wrong). So I've come to two possibilities:
1) the Thameslink 319s that were supposed to be on a short term loan are now staying for a longer period
2) I've gone wrong in maths somewhere

you've gone wrong in maths has half of the fleet have the old or new moquette.

 

[507021]

there must be something because the total number of units going for refurbishment should be 243 (which excludes 323s, Thameslink 319s and 769s) but when i've added all the numbers up I've not got 243 (unless I've gone wrong). So I've come to two possibilities:
1) the Thameslink 319s that were supposed to be on a short term loan are now staying for a longer period
2) I've gone wrong in maths somewhere

Unless the plan has changed, the 150/0s and three 150/2s are due to transfer from GWR at some point.

 

[LOL The Irony]

three 150/2s are due to transfer from GWR

Will one of them be the one sent down from Northern to get 209?

 

[507021]

Will one of them be the one sent down from Northern to get 209?

Yes, it'll be the three 150/2s leased from Angel Trains (150202/207 and 216).

 

[Harvey B]

Unless the plan has changed, the 150/0s and three 150/2s are due to transfer from GWR at some point.

Thanks, that'll probably be why I've not got 243 units

 

[LOL The Irony]

Yes, it'll be the three 150/2s leased from Angel Trains (150202/207 and 216).

Thanks.

 

[djpontrack]

Yes, it'll be the three 150/2s leased from Angel Trains (150202/207 and 216).

Hi mate. Any idea when 150216 is getting transferred to Northern? It’s the last 150 I need for haulage.

 

[PHILIPE]

Hi mate. Any idea when 150216 is getting transferred to Northern? It’s the last 150 I need for haulage.

Not sure exactly but possibly early next year

 

[djpontrack]

Not sure exactly but possibly early next year

Thanks mate. I will definitely be on the lookout for that one when it heads north.

 

[Harvey B]

you've gone wrong in maths has half of the fleet have the old or new moquette.

I don't understand what you mean

 

[Harvey B]

you've gone wrong in maths has half of the fleet have the old or new moquette.

@jonesy3001, I still don't understand what you meant in this post so can you explain what you meant please?

 

[jonesy3001]

some have the blue moquette or the black and blue old/new one

 

[Harvey B]

some have the blue moquette or the black and blue old/new one

Thanks

I was talking (originally) about the units that are going for refurbishment in total and not the ones with old and new moquette

Everytime I calculated the total number of Northern units going for refurbishment (excluding 323s,Thameslink livery 319s and 769s) I didn't get 243 units so are there any more units to transfer? Are the Thameslink 319s permanent? Or did I go wrong in my maths?

 

[jonesy3001]

Thanks

I was talking (originally) about the units that are going for refurbishment in total and not the ones with old and new moquette

Everytime I calculated the total number of Northern units going for refurbishment (excluding 323s,Thameslink livery 319s and 769s) I didn't get 243 units so are there any more units to transfer? Are the Thameslink 319s permanent? Or did I go wrong in my maths?

372/373 and 446 are on short term loan till the "flex" trains are ready