Killingworth
Established Member
Sorry if there's already a thread for this, but it's well known that the use of Season tickets is falling.
A new 26-30 Railcard has just been introduced ensuring that anyone up to 30 can get reduced rate travel, as can all those from 60 upwards. Other railcards are available for all sorts of groups such as armed forces, disabled, family and friends, Network (South East), employees at Manchester Airport to name but a few. There are many others. They come with with a wide range of limitations and restrictions, however it's immediately obvious that the 31-59 age group are getting a generally poorer deal.
I sometimes travel to Manchester from Sheffield and know some fellow passengers are using season tickets, a few for first class, but that number is declining. Why? A few reasons I've heard;
1. Many travel Monday-Thursday only. Work at home Friday is becoming quite normal.
2. Railcard users get no discount on a Season ticket.
3. Advance fares are now available on specific trains that undercut a Season ticket discount.
4. Season ticket holders don't get a booked seat - advance fare payers do.
5. On our line first class season tickets are only usable on TPE trains where they may have to stand.
6. Split ticketing options!
Having to book multiple advance tickets is a torment many put up with to save money and get a booked seat. I've seen large handfuls of tickets being shuffled, a veritable pack of cards, including cycle reservations booked in a different coach to the passenger.
Our fare calculation methods are truly amazing. The range of options mind blowing.
That's further compounded by the different formats of tickets issued, and all the rail and travel cards to accompany them.
Some passengers are regularly paying double what those in the know are shelling out to travel on the same trains. But why should Season ticket holders lose out without a booked seat to those seated on cheaper Advance fares?
No wonder Season ticket sales are down.
A new 26-30 Railcard has just been introduced ensuring that anyone up to 30 can get reduced rate travel, as can all those from 60 upwards. Other railcards are available for all sorts of groups such as armed forces, disabled, family and friends, Network (South East), employees at Manchester Airport to name but a few. There are many others. They come with with a wide range of limitations and restrictions, however it's immediately obvious that the 31-59 age group are getting a generally poorer deal.
I sometimes travel to Manchester from Sheffield and know some fellow passengers are using season tickets, a few for first class, but that number is declining. Why? A few reasons I've heard;
1. Many travel Monday-Thursday only. Work at home Friday is becoming quite normal.
2. Railcard users get no discount on a Season ticket.
3. Advance fares are now available on specific trains that undercut a Season ticket discount.
4. Season ticket holders don't get a booked seat - advance fare payers do.
5. On our line first class season tickets are only usable on TPE trains where they may have to stand.
6. Split ticketing options!
Having to book multiple advance tickets is a torment many put up with to save money and get a booked seat. I've seen large handfuls of tickets being shuffled, a veritable pack of cards, including cycle reservations booked in a different coach to the passenger.
Our fare calculation methods are truly amazing. The range of options mind blowing.
That's further compounded by the different formats of tickets issued, and all the rail and travel cards to accompany them.
Some passengers are regularly paying double what those in the know are shelling out to travel on the same trains. But why should Season ticket holders lose out without a booked seat to those seated on cheaper Advance fares?
No wonder Season ticket sales are down.