Passenger Opens Door to Driver’s Cabin to Complain

[Antman]

I saw a driver of a Southeastern 465 with the door wedged open during a heatwave to get a decent flow of air through the cab.

 

[ComUtoR]

Unless the 700 was at a stand not possible!

I'm sure they mean the burst through door.

 

[sw1ller]

I’ve been in the cab of a pendelino at 125 with the cab door open, apparently there’s more chance of a brew if the other staff can see you!!

 

[theageofthetra]

I saw a driver of a Southeastern 465 with the door wedged open during a heatwave to get a decent flow of air through the cab.

If his AC had failed he should have failed the unit

 

[LLivery]

I was on a 455 rather recently where the door was fully open to the rear cab gangway. I couldn't tell if the second door into the actual cab was locked but it certainly gave a different view.

 

[FQ]

I was on a 455 rather recently where the door was fully open to the rear cab gangway. I couldn't tell if the second door into the actual cab was locked but it certainly gave a different view.

I've seen this many times on GWR 150/1s. Last July I ended up on them quite a lot and was surprised at how often the rear cab door was left open, just swaying to and fro as the train moved. I've attached a couple of photos taken of a train at Westbury where this was the case (the door stayed open as the train headed towards Warminster too).
Through the window by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Through the window by fishquinn1, on Flickr

 

[ComUtoR]

If his AC had failed he should have failed the unit

They were allowed to leave the cab door open and lock the front unit at one point. Depending on what their DOTEL states, Failed heater is out of service, failed AC is just suffer in silence. If I remember correctly.

 

[LLivery]

I've seen this many times on GWR 150/1s. Last July I ended up on them quite a lot and was surprised at how often the rear cab door was left open, just swaying to and fro as the train moved. I've attached a couple of photos taken of a train at Westbury where this was the case (the door stayed open as the train headed towards Warminster too).
Through the window by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Through the window by fishquinn1, on Flickr

I've only seen it once but that must've been a more interesting view than London suburbia!

 

[dmncf]

Thinking on, Class 139 doesn't even have a cab!

ASLEF must have been in an unusually good mood while the Class 139 was being introduced!

 

[317666]

It happens a lot on the old two-car EMUs in Belgium, the door through to the front is a simple sliding door with no lock. The actual cab off to one side is behind a door, but drivers often seem to leave it open - probably as it looks very cramped with it shut!

 

[ShwervinMervin]

On the total other hand - I've seen 313s down in Hove with passengers in the rear guard compartment. Quite a few as well!

 

[Highlandspring]

Years ago I was crammed in the front vestibule of a packed 158 from Sheffield to Manchester on a Friday evening. Before we left Sheff the driver opened the cab door and closed off his side (as it would be when the gangway is in use) to let a few of us stand in the secondman’s side of the cab which allowed some more folk to board.

 

[jon0844]

On the total other hand - I've seen 313s down in Hove with passengers in the rear guard compartment. Quite a few as well!

They had that problem on GN trains to Moorgate, as once a few people did it everyone joined in. Had to have a massive clamp down and put up new signs on the doors to stop it.

 

[sw1ller]

Years ago I was crammed in the front vestibule of a packed 158 from Sheffield to Manchester on a Friday evening. Before we left Sheff the driver opened the cab door and closed off his side (as it would be when the gangway is in use) to let a few of us stand in the secondman’s side of the cab which allowed some more folk to board.

I hope there was no access to the door butterfly, detonators or other safety systems! They’d certainly be exposed on our 158’s

 

[Highlandspring]

Of course there was. Strangely enough no one took the opportunity to isolate the horn or the parking brake either.

 

[sw1ller]

Far more trust than I have then.

 

[JaJaWa]

Unless the 700 was at a stand not possible!

May have been when stopped at a signal but was definitely between stations.

 

[47271]

They had that problem on GN trains to Moorgate, as once a few people did it everyone joined in. Had to have a massive clamp down and put up new signs on the doors to stop it.

I've heard of this happening on very overcrowded Thameslink services as well, including a good number of people making it all the way from King's Cross to St Albans in the rear cab of a 319 one night many years ago.

 

[ComUtoR]

May have been when stopped at a signal but was definitely between stations.

Which door are you referring to ? The burst through door from cab into the coach or the bodyside door from platform to cab ?

 

[ChilternTurbo]

I was recently sat in the front section of a Chiltern 365 from Marylebone to Aylesbury. This departure is one of a few peak trains that are fast to Amersham or in this case, Great Missenden.
Anyway, we're travelling along at a fairly brisk pace between Harrow and Rickmansworth when a young lady rushes up to the front of the carriage and starts frantically knocking on the door to the cab. By this point the whole compartment is looking up and naturally concerned about what the issue might be. The driver opened the door with said young lady requesting that the train is stopped at an intermediate station as she didn't realise this was a fast train and she would be late otherwise. This caused much eye rolling and stifled laughter amongst my fellow passengers. Unbelievably, she was still persisting with trying to get the train to stop up until the driver politely but firmly pointed out that he was otherwise preoccupied driving a train and could she go away. I'd normally have some sympathy for someone who's boarded the wrong train but she was so diva like in her behaviour it was quite amusing in this case she'd had an unplanned excursion out into Buckinghamshire...

 

[185143]

I was recently sat in the front section of a Chiltern 365

I somehow highly doubt that

 

[NoOnesFool]

I was on a train today which had stopped between Exhibition Centre and Partick and I was taken aback to see a passenger open the door to the driver’s cabin and demand to know why the train had stopped. The driver told him to go away which he did.

Based on the passenger’s general behaviour prior to that I could tell he wasnt quite right mentally.
Is it common for drivers to not lock the cabin door?

Absolutely shocking and worrying. The cab doors will lock automatically when closed, as do most of the staff doors on the train. It could just be that the door wasn't quite fully closed or had a faulty latch.

 

[tsr]

Absolutely shocking and worrying. The cab doors will lock automatically when closed, as do most of the staff doors on the train. It could just be that the door wasn't quite fully closed or had a faulty latch.

That’s most certainly not how the doors work on some (or even most) stock, I’m afraid.

 

[NoOnesFool]

That’s most certainly not how the doors work on some (or even most) stock, I’m afraid.

Oh dear, I must have left so many doors unlocked at work then if that's the case...silly me.

 

[alangla]

Absolutely shocking and worrying. The cab doors will lock automatically when closed, as do most of the staff doors on the train. It could just be that the door wasn't quite fully closed or had a faulty latch.

Was on a 318 coming home last night & the cab door was ajar. Drivers basically don’t bother closing them properly as far as I can tell

 

[tgrb]

Just a random thought, as I don’t think over ever seen a door open on a non-heritage railway, but must my travel is on HST/800 so I’m not expecting to.... but could some drivers be purposely not securing there doors should they require to make a sharp exit?

 

[Dr Hoo]

Sometime back in 1995 I was on a peak ‘Great Northern’ EMU on a Peterborough-King’s Cross working south of Stevenage. A nearby passenger started displaying the symptoms of a minor heart attack. With the help of another nearby trained first aider the casualty was stabilised. Not wanting to delay medical attention I didn’t operate the alarm but walked forward to the front cab door, shouted out what was wrong and identified myself as rail staff. Driver opened door and we agreed that he would radio for ambulance attendance.
Had a non-stop run with other trains diverted to slow line. Ambulance waiting on Platform 1. No drama!

 

[ChilternTurbo]

I somehow highly doubt that

Ha! No electrification hasn't reached Marylebone...it was of course a 165

 

[Essexman]

I once knocked on the driver's door when travelling from Forsinard to Altnabreac, to request a stop at the latter. I couldn't find the guard and it was the only way I could ask for the train to stop (obviously in retrospect I should have asked the guard when I boarded at Forsinard). There were two men in the cab. Could one of them have been the guard?

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

When I was younger, I remember once running to catch the train (despite the next one being only a few minutes behind ). The guard kindly let me in at the rear cab, and then I walked through into the passenger saloon.