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Re-opening/building new stations on existing lines

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Which stations on existing lines would you consider re-opening, or freshly opening?

I'd like to suggest Workington North; it was very handily positioned to serve Dunmail Park (which mops up a great deal of local shoppers) and if there's anything left there then it would be very easy to reopen.
 
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Which stations on existing lines would you consider re-opening?

I'd like to suggest Workington North; it was very handily positioned to serve Dunmail Park (which mops up a great deal of local shoppers) and if there's anything left there then it would be very easy to reopen.

  • Barlaston
  • Rossington
  • Besscar
  • Yaxley and Farcett
  • Sharnbrook
  • Rushden Parkway
  • Heeley
  • Millhouses
  • Rotherham Masborough
  • Clay Cross
  • Castle Bromwich
  • Fort Parkway (new)
  • Desborough
 

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  • Bagillt and Holywell
  • Bawtry
  • Beechwood
  • Bonnybridge
  • Bridge of Allan (re-sited)
  • Bridge of Earn
  • Bucksburn
  • Caerleon
  • Carno
  • Connah's Quay
  • Coppull
  • Cefn-mawr
  • Cherry Willingham
  • Corsham
  • Cullompton
  • Dunmail Park
  • East Linton
  • Ferrybridge
  • Ferryhill
  • Golborne
  • Gresford and Llay
  • Halkirk
  • Haxby
  • Hethersett
  • Kibworth
  • Kinmel Bay
  • Kintore
  • Kirkhill
  • Kirkliston
  • Newburgh
  • Reston for Eyemouth
  • Shap
  • Standish
  • Strensall
  • Washingborough
  • Wellington
 
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Which stations on existing lines would you consider re-opening?

I'd like to suggest Workington North; it was very handily positioned to serve Dunmail Park (which mops up a great deal of local shoppers) and if there's anything left there then it would be very easy to reopen.

Nothing left at Workington North. It was removed fairly quickly after the "Floodex" services finished.
 

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At the risk of derailing this thread:

These are some quite lengthy lists, but it seems to me that building a new station on a line which is in use can be pretty disruptive. And recent new stations have not been cheap.

Is there scope for some sort of standardized new station package, which could be built relatively cheaply, quickly and non-disruptively while meeting all of today's requirements? Or does this already exist?
 

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At the risk of derailing this thread:

These are some quite lengthy lists, but it seems to me that building a new station on a line which is in use can be pretty disruptive. And recent new stations have not been cheap.

Is there scope for some sort of standardized new station package, which could be built relatively cheaply, quickly and non-disruptively while meeting all of today's requirements? Or does this already exist?

The SR had its concrete "harps and slabs" which were easy to assemble. Many are still around today.
 

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Here's some more suggestions:
Marazion
Chipping Sodbury
Birtley
Belford
Pinchbeck
Hirwaun
Culgaith
Elland
Cross Hills
Fulwood
Galgate
Bulkington
Gilsland
Eastriggs
Cambus and Tullibody
Halbeath
Evanton
Kincardine
Clackmannan
Bannockburn
 

Train Maniac

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I think they missed a great opportunity with electrifying the GWML, but how about Wantage Parkway?
 

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There are so many potential sites and most suffer from four basic shortcomings that need to be resolved before any platforms and revised signalling can be provided, usually, by Network Rail.

1. By adding an extra stop on an existing line how much would need to be added to the end to end timings of stopping trains, and how much free capacity exists to avoid delaying trains (passenger and freight) that don't stop.

2. Access to the new station, with particular reference to parking, bus interchanges, cycling and walking routes. Safe road and pedestrian access is vital.

3. Who can provide the finance to pay for the construction.

4. If a new station is opened will it abstract significant passenger numbers from existing stations?

Too often a combination of these makes an outwardly reasonable proposition seem unviable.

I'd also mention that adding back demolished platforms and increasing platform lengths at existing stations would be a good idea to help improve capacity at lower cost than opening totally new stations.

To illustrate these points, Dronfield was reopened about 30 years ago and is well used. Derbyshire county and local councils gave support. Users have been attracted to direct services to Leeds and Nottingham as well as Chesterfield and Sheffield, some of that traffic abstracted from Sheffield and Chesterfield. Users would like more trains to stop, especially for London and Cross Country services. This is currently being resisted by TOCs as it would add at least 3 minutes to the timetable for each additional stopped train, and delay other trains. Parking is now,a big problem.

Calls to rebuild Beauchief, Abbeydale and Millhouses, and Heeley stations all currently fail for these reasons, as does rebuilding mainline platforms at Dore & Totley.

At present making the current network more resilient must be a priority. I'm sure a few places do justify a new station which can prove viability, but it's possible that would have to be at the expense of dropping stops elsewhere - or even closing stations. Certainly there must be a lot of stations that could have been better situated if built new today.
 

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We shouldn't use the need for improvements to existing services as an excuse not to do anything in terms of new markets. A simple modular halt which can be built with ramps to the nearest thoroughfare should be acceptable to control costs.
 

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Calls to rebuild Beauchief, Abbeydale and Millhouses, and Heeley stations all currently fail for these reasons, as does rebuilding mainline platforms at Dore & Totley.
Those would only really be viable with 4-tracking (at least in the platforms), as I suspect goes for many proposed stations on existing 2-track lines.
 

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Those would only really be viable with 4-tracking (at least in the platforms), as I suspect goes for many proposed stations on existing 2-track lines.

Well, if HS2b east does get built, with a spur into Sheffield, there should be 3 tracks. Battle on to get 4!
 

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There have been plans proposed over the last few years to reopen St James station in Liverpool. Situated between Liverpool Central and Brunswick on the Hunts cross line.
 

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There are so many potential sites and most suffer from four basic shortcomings that need to be resolved before any platforms and revised signalling can be provided, usually, by Network Rail.

1. By adding an extra stop on an existing line how much would need to be added to the end to end timings of stopping trains, and how much free capacity exists to avoid delaying trains (passenger and freight) that don't stop.

2. Access to the new station, with particular reference to parking, bus interchanges, cycling and walking routes. Safe road and pedestrian access is vital.

3. Who can provide the finance to pay for the construction.

4. If a new station is opened will it abstract significant passenger numbers from existing stations?

Too often a combination of these makes an outwardly reasonable proposition seem unviable.

I'd also mention that adding back demolished platforms and increasing platform lengths at existing stations would be a good idea to help improve capacity at lower cost than opening totally new stations.

To illustrate these points, Dronfield was reopened about 30 years ago and is well used. Derbyshire county and local councils gave support. Users have been attracted to direct services to Leeds and Nottingham as well as Chesterfield and Sheffield, some of that traffic abstracted from Sheffield and Chesterfield. Users would like more trains to stop, especially for London and Cross Country services. This is currently being resisted by TOCs as it would add at least 3 minutes to the timetable for each additional stopped train, and delay other trains. Parking is now,a big problem.

Calls to rebuild Beauchief, Abbeydale and Millhouses, and Heeley stations all currently fail for these reasons, as does rebuilding mainline platforms at Dore & Totley.

At present making the current network more resilient must be a priority. I'm sure a few places do justify a new station which can prove viability, but it's possible that would have to be at the expense of dropping stops elsewhere - or even closing stations. Certainly there must be a lot of stations that could have been better situated if built new today.

There's one case which could work without causing problems. This could be a new station to the West of Basingstoke near to Oakley. It works because:

1) it could be served by extending the Existing Basingstoke stoppers the 5-10 minutes up the line in the 28 minute gap that exists.

2) it would be serving a new development and so all those good pedestrian and cycle facilities south's be designed in from day one.

3) it could be funded by the developers.

4) although it could result in some people no longer using Basingstoke station, mostly it would be by people heading East and so the change would likely result in more money.
 
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