Wymondham to Cambridge (Via Norwich)

[TurbostarFan]

I would like to know why it is a permitted route to travel (according to the NRE Journey Planner) from Wymondham to Cambridge whilst double-backing via Norwich on the way? Does anyone know if a break of journey is permitted whilst doing this on an off peak ticket or not?

 

[MikeWh]

I'm really not sure why this has to be a different thread to your earlier one.

Whilst it doesn't mention Wymondham directly, easement 700390 might be the reason. It states:

Customers travelling from Harling Road, Eccles Road or Spooner Row to Ely and beyond
may double back via Norwich. This easement applies in both directions.​

 

[TurbostarFan]

I'm really not sure why this has to be a different thread to your earlier one.

Whilst it doesn't mention Wymondham directly, easement 700390 might be the reason. It states:

Customers travelling from Harling Road, Eccles Road or Spooner Row to Ely and beyond
may double back via Norwich. This easement applies in both directions.​

Fair point but I thought I'd play it safe as this is going via a different route i.e. the Breckland line instead of via Stowmarket and the Ipswich-Cambridge / Ipswich-Ely lines.

 

[yorkie]

I would like to know why it is a permitted route to travel (according to the NRE Journey Planner) from Wymondham to Cambridge whilst double-backing via Norwich on the way? Does anyone know if a break of journey is permitted whilst doing this on an off peak ticket or not?

Norwich is an appropriate origin routeing point (ORP) for this journey, and Cambridge is the destination routeing point (DRP).

Wymondham to Norwich is by direct train and therefore the 'local journey' to the ORP is valid.

Map KE covers the route via Wymondham; there is no doubling back on this map.

You have not stated the ticket type, but as mentioned in your other thread, the type of ticket is what determines whether or not break of journey is permitted for this journey. If the ticket type allows break of journey then yes it is valid.

Note that the above principle applies to the routeing, but this does not mean you can double call at your origin, so be sure to take a train that does not call at Wymondham.

On the return journey, if you are on a train that calls at Wymondham, the ticket ceases to have further validity when the train calls and the contract is fulfilled.

 

[TurbostarFan]

Norwich is an appropriate origin routeing point (ORP) for this journey, and Cambridge is the destination routeing point (DRP).

Wymondham to Norwich is by direct train and therefore the 'local journey' to the ORP is valid.

Map KE covers the route via Wymondham; there is no doubling back on this map.

You have not stated the ticket type, but as mentioned in your other thread, the type of ticket is what determines whether or not break of journey is permitted for this journey. If the ticket type allows break of journey then yes it is valid.

Note that the above principle applies to the routeing, but this does not mean you can double call at your origin, so be sure to take a train that does not call at Wymondham.

On the return journey, if you are on a train that calls at Wymondham, the ticket ceases to have further validity when the train calls and the contract is fulfilled.

Fair point but I will point out that the only trains which run between Norwich and Ely but don't call at Wymondham are operated by East Midlands Trains and only go as far as Ely meaning that I would have to change onto another train once there to Cambridge.

 

[yorkie]

Fair point but I will point out that the only trains which run between Norwich and Ely but don't call at Wymondham are operated by East Midlands Trains and only go as far as Ely meaning that I would have to change onto another train once there to Cambridge.

Then I recommend not travelling via Norwich.

 

[TurbostarFan]

Then I recommend not travelling via Norwich.

Agreed, to be honest this thread was started out of curiosity rather than me seeking practical advice!