EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

[DarloRich]

but who else wants the job right now?

quite a few of the hard brexit types would crawl over broken glass to do the job! There may be a vote of no confidence triggered tomorrow according to political correspondents on twitter

 

[Cowley]

quite a few of the hard brexit types would crawl over broken glass to do the job! There may be a vote of no confidence triggered tomorrow according to political correspondents on twitter

Probably right.
I don’t know whether to laugh/cry/just ignore it all, and stick my headphones on to listen to something that takes me away from it all until someone that knows what they’re doing sorts it all out.
I’ll probably go for the latter.

 

[DarloRich]

I don’t know whether to laugh/cry/just ignore it all, and stick my headphones on to listen to something that takes me away from it all until someone that knows what they’re doing sorts it all out.
I’ll probably go for the latter.

The worrying thing is I don't think anyone does know what they are doing or how to do it.

 

[birchesgreen]

quite a few of the hard brexit types would crawl over broken glass to do the job! There may be a vote of no confidence triggered tomorrow according to political correspondents on twitter

I'm not sure about that, its much easier to shout from the sidelines than actually be leader and have to do something

 

[Ianno87]

I'm not sure about that, its much easier to shout from the sidelines than actually be leader and have to do something

The Brexity types already given it do seem to have a habit of running away once they meet the reality of it. Shouting baseless rhetoric does seem easier for them...

 

[AM9]

Raab has resigned and the speculation is that May will be ousted. Looking more like a second referendum is on the way, so they say.

 

[bnm]

The house of cards is starting to tumble.

Theresa May's job is hanging by a thread.

 

[DarloRich]

I'm not sure about that, its much easier to shout from the sidelines than actually be leader and have to do something

your mistake is allowing rational thought to be applied to an irrational process!

 

[DarloRich]

So Raab quits. Another rat trying to leave the sinking ship and blaming the captain while he does. It is like he wasn't present for the negotiations! shameless

 

[AM9]

The house of cards is starting to tumble.

Theresa May's job is hanging by a thread.

With nobody keen to replace her. So there's three options open to thwe Government:

1) face a general election
2) walk away from the EU
3) a second referendum​

There's no appetite for 1), they would never be forgiven for 2) so the only option that enables them the get out of losing power or taking the blame is to put the responsibility onto the electorate* with 3).

* That bright idea was Cameron's and he landed us in that mess, so only the hard line leavers would risk everything to follow their dream, and there aren't enough of them.

 

[nlogax]

Wheels well and truly falling off the Brexit cart, as things currently stand there's not a snowball's chance in hell of this deal getting through parliament.

With nobody keen to replace her. So there's three options open to thwe Government:
1) face a general election
2) walk away from the EU
3) a second referendum

I think there'll be an attempt to topple May within days, maybe even hours. Wonder how many letters have been received by the 1922 Committee so far?

 

[SteveP29]

when the economy turns to s***

As opposed to the massively booming and profitable for all economy we have now where chain after chain after chain of well established High Street stores are going down the tubes (or being bought by Mike Ashley, which is much the same thing tbh)

 

[Howardh]

So it was you I could hear shouting "Stop Brexit" while the PM made that announcement?

nah, I tried with "Kate McKann (Sky/Telegraph correspondent) will you marry me??!!" but I don't think she heard above the din. She would have turned this owd slaphead down faster than Raab the deal mind.
Nice to put a face to the bloke with the megaphone "Stop Brexit!!". Should have got his autograph, but even better it's getting closer to him getting his way!!

 

[Howardh]

Wheels well and truly falling off the Brexit cart, as things currently stand there's not a snowball's chance in hell of this deal getting through parliament.
I think there'll be an attempt to topple May within days, maybe even hours. Wonder how many letters have been received by the 1922 Committee so far?

Well I hope they have mine "Sack the lot of 'em!".

 

[Howardh]

So Raab quits. Another rat trying to leave the sinking ship and blaming the captain while he does. It is like he wasn't present for the negotiations! shameless

If that sinking ship is half-way between Dover and Calais the lad's got an issue....

 

[Class37.4]

With nobody keen to replace her. So there's three options open to thwe Government:

1) face a general election
2) walk away from the EU
3) a second referendum​

There's no appetite for 1), they would never be forgiven for 2) so the only option that enables them the get out of losing power or taking the blame is to put the responsibility onto the electorate* with 3).

* That bright idea was Cameron's and he landed us in that mess, so only the hard line leavers would risk everything to follow their dream, and there aren't enough of them.

1. or 2. are most likely, 3. wont be offered by the Conservatives may be offered by Labour as an election manifesto.

 

[Howardh]

1. or 2. are most likely, 3. wont be offered by the Conservatives may be offered by Labour as an election manifesto.

We can't walk away from the EU as - well, the "deal" showed us what we would keep (ie the planes fly, ferries land etc) which proves that operaton fear was indeed operation reality if we didn't have a deal. It's now there in red, blue and white, come no-deal everything's at a standstill.
No government would let that happen, not even this one.

On the other hand....

 

[nlogax]

No government would let that happen, not even this one.

This one would, partially out of sheer bloody-mindedness and also the fear that were they to renege on the referendum result no-one would ever vote Conservative again.

 

[bnm]

Environment Secretary Michael Gove has cancelled his diary engagements today.

What's his plan I wonder. Another resignation...?

 

[Howardh]

This one would, partially out of sheer bloody-mindedness and also the fear that were they to renege on the referendum result no-one would ever vote Conservative again.

I used to vote Tory but never, ever again - even if it hits me in the pocket. I live in a marginal (Bolton West) and Toryboy Brexiter Green has a majority of something like 800.

 

[nlogax]

Environment Secretary Michael Gove has cancelled his diary engagements today.

He was one of the Brexiteers more supportive of the deal during yesterday's cabinet meeting, so this could get interesting.

 

[bnm]

Work & Pensions Secretary Esther McVey gone too.

#omnishambles.

 

[northwichcat]

Work & Pensions Secretary Esther McVey gone too.

#omnishambles.

It seems the leavers are all leaving.

 

[Mojo]

It seems the leavers are all leaving.

Collective responsibility. Seems even Raab had nothing to do with this compromise proposal.

 

[Howardh]

It seems the leavers are all leaving.

Wonder if they will use their current freedom of movement and go and live in the EU?
#hypocritesthelotofthemlikelawson

 

[bnm]

Jacob Rees-Mogg has just stood up in Parliament and twisted the knife.

 

[Door Key]

Appeasement, especially when it involves Germany, never ends well.

 

[Class37.4]

As opposed to the massively booming and profitable for all economy we have now where chain after chain after chain of well established High Street stores are going down the tubes (or being bought by Mike Ashley, which is much the same thing tbh)

The High street is going down the pan because in large part it is redundant and has been superseded, nothing to do with the economy.

 

[Class37.4]

Well I would vote this deal because it produces an orderly exit and moves in the direction or what people voted for, but I don't see how she can get it through Parliament, I will not vote for any MP either as an MP or Party Leader who votes against which probably means I will have to not vote at the next election, Of course they may kick her out before then it all looks a bit grim at the moment.

I do think a few Labour MP's will vote for it and apparently some of the political commentators are saying that some Labour MP's have told them that but doubt it will be enough.

 

[bnm]

Rumours are that the reason Michael Gove cleared his diary today is because he's taking over as Brexit secretary.