Court summons over mobile ticket issue

[Aliicee]

hi so I boarded a train without a ticket and I usually purchase a ticket on my fone , my fone would not work for me to purchase a ticket so I approached the staff at the other end we’re i was getting off to buy a ticket. They fined me for not having a ticket and I forgot about this fine , they sent me one letter months after and I forgot to pay this aswell my mistake as I didn’t realise how serious this could be , I got a summons to court with a settlement offer at the front of it which stated if I paid £100 plus the fair itself they would stop proceedings..
I paid this and they advised on the fone this would be it. I have got a letter now saying I have to attend court it was adjourned prior due to a settlement out of court.. so does this mean they will still take action even though I paid this ? Does this also mean I have a criminal record ?

 

[gray1404]

You say you paid the settlement on the phone. Does this show on your bank statement?

 

[Aliicee]

Yes I have a text that confirms this , I paid this on the 7th november but the letter I received is dated the 29th October. I had rang them to move the date to end of november so I can pay this when I get paid they said it was ok and on the fone they confirmed no further action

 

[Wolfie]

Yes I have a text that confirms this , I paid this on the 7th november but the letter I received is dated the 29th October. I had rang them to move the date to end of november so I can pay this when I get paid they said it was ok and on the fone they confirmed no further action

Get it confirmed in writing (a text or email will do). Verbal comments are pretty much impossible to prove should things go wrong...

 

[Aliicee]

Get it confirmed in writing (a text or email will do). Verbal comments are pretty much impossible to prove should things go wrong...

Would this show on a dbs check.

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

Would this show on a dbs check.

It depends what you're being prosecuted under. Are you being prosecuted under the Railway Byelaws 2005 or under the Regulation of Railways Act 1889? The former wouldn't show on a DBS check. The latter would, for one year after conviction.

Did the station where you boarded have ticketing facilities? Did you pass any ticketing opportunities during your journey (e.g. a guard coming through and selling tickets but not checking them, or spare time at a manned interchange station)?

 

[Aliicee]

It depends what you're being prosecuted under. Are you being prosecuted under the Railway Byelaws 2005 or under the Regulation of Railways Act 1889? The former wouldn't show on a DBS check. The latter would, for one year after conviction.

Did the station where you boarded have ticketing facilities? Did you pass any ticketing opportunities during your journey (e.g. a guard coming through and selling tickets but not checking them, or spare time at a manned interchange station)?

No it didn’t it was 1 stop on a Sunday It was manchester airport no barriers closed and I haven’t been to court or anything , I had a dbs done and my employer said they were advised or needed reviewing so I’m worried it’s this because I have never been arrested before ?
I’m so stressed out

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

No it didn’t it was 1 stop on a Sunday It was manchester airport no barriers closed and I haven’t been to court or anything , I had a dbs done and my employer said they were advised or needed reviewing so I’m worried it’s this because I have never been arrested before ?
I’m so stressed out

The letters which you have received so far will probably mention the law under which you are being, or have been, prosecuted. Without knowing which one of the two it was, we can't say whether it was this that's affected your DBS record.

Did you offer to pay your fare when you had your details taken? Did you intend to pay your fare?

 

[6Gman]

If your journey was from Manchester Airport then the ticket office should be open 0630 to 2230 daily, and there are ticket machines so you definitely seem to have passed an opportunity to pay.

You were then (by the sound of it) given a Penalty Fare which you failed to pay.
You were then sent a further letter, and again failed to act.

It may be that the court summons and the settlement "crossed in the post" as it were. Get back to them urgently to clarify whether your settlement was accepted, and get it in writing (be that electronic or in printed form).

 

[Wolfie]

If your journey was from Manchester Airport then the ticket office should be open 0630 to 2230 daily, and there are ticket machines so you definitely seem to have passed an opportunity to pay.

You were then (by the sound of it) given a Penalty Fare which you failed to pay.
You were then sent a further letter, and again failed to act.

It may be that the court summons and the settlement "crossed in the post" as it were. Get back to them urgently to clarify whether your settlement was accepted, and get it in writing (be that electronic or in printed form).

The last para is a far more erudite exposition of what l was trying to say earlier in the thread. The rest is potentially a highly useful summary.

 

[cuccir]

It may be that the court summons and the settlement "crossed in the post" as it were. Get back to them urgently to clarify whether your settlement was accepted, and get it in writing (be that electronic or in printed form).

This seems the most likely explanation. I'd suggest calling the TOC immediately to confirm it's been accepted, and ask them to confirm if the court date has been cancelled. I'd also get in touch directly with the court a few days before hand to confirm if it was still listed and, if so, I'd go down early that day to speak to the prosecutor before the case gets heard.