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Le Petit Train Jaune (Little Yellow Train) - running?

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Dougal2345

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Just a quick question - I was planning to travel the scenic route from Perpignan -> Barcelona this coming Friday, using the Little Yellow Train along the way.

But I've just checked the SNCF site - it's showing the Yellow trains as cancelled on Sun 11 and Mon 12, with a bus instead, and no information for Tuesday onwards.

Is there any way to find out what's causing the cancellations and whether they will continue? There's no obvious link on the site. If they will continue, I might as well book a TGV ticket from Perpignan to Barcelona now...

Or would it be worth enduring a bus to Latour-de-Carol anyway, is the Rodalies service from there to Barcelona worth riding from a scenic point of view?

Incidentally, this will be my third attempt this year to travel on the Little Yellow Train.

First time, I rolled up at Perpignan station in the morning to find the train to Villefranche was a bus, departing at the same time, but arriving later. Of course they'd hold the Yellow Train... well, perhaps not :(

The second time, my incoming train to Perpignan the night before was delayed due to the strike. After getting to my hotel after 1am after 18+ hours travelling, I didn't really fancy getting up less than five hours later the next morning...

But I have a feeling this won't be third time lucky! Still, the Ibis in Perpignan must be happy that I keep booking there :)
 
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The service from La Tour De Carol to Barcelona is superbly scenic for about half its length, then it degenerates into industrial suburbs. If you are lucky enough to get the Yellow train, wrap up at this time of year. The heating isn’t wonderful in the enclosed coaches, let alone the open ones.
 

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The service from La Tour De Carol to Barcelona is superbly scenic for about half its length, then it degenerates into industrial suburbs. If you are lucky enough to get the Yellow train, wrap up at this time of year. The heating isn’t wonderful in the enclosed coaches, let alone the open ones.
Thanks for the advice! I've done some further digging and found the following, which gives me hope for Friday...
Perturbation:
La circulation des trains sera perturbée sur l'est de la région Occitanie du lundi 12 novembre au mardi 13 novembre à 08h00 en raison d'une grève locale. Plus d'info sur l'appli et les sites SNCF et sur nos autres canaux d'information.
(From the main SNCF site, the 'oui.sncf' site which I had been using has no such useful information...)
 

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Hope you caught the train and Johnnychips is right about the temperature. I was there in summer and in an open carriage. Dressed for the heat of the coast but I was freezing when we got to the top
 

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I see I'm talking to the train itself :D

I'm not travelling until Friday, so it's good advice about the cold... hopefully it won't be too crowded this time of the year so I can move from open coach to heated one if I start to turn into an icicle...

Just got to decide whether to get the 8.16 bus from Perpignan and risk the 10 minute connection at Villefranche (having had a bad experience with a missed connection before) or get the much earlier bus to be on the safe side...
 

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Let us know how you get on. I did it a few years ago. One of the stations is unusual as I seem to remember it has 3 gauges. ??
 

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When I looked into this briefly last year, I gave up as then line was suspended for extended engineering work, rather than a strike.

I'll try again sometime..
 

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That's La Tour de Carol - Enveitg (does it still have the full name?).

Per Google -- indeed, fully officially Latour-de-Carol-Enveitg (La Tor de Querol-Enveitg if you're Catalan). French 1435mm and metre, and Spanish 1672mm, gauges.

They seem to like long, elaborate station names in these parts: full name of the Petit Train Jaune's eastern terminus, where it meets the s/g from Perpignan, is Villefranche-Vernet-les-Bains-Fuilla; and en route on the PTJ are Olette-Canaveilles-les-Bains, and Font-Romeu-Odeillo-Via.

Not wanting to be discouraging; but I'd concur with posts upthread, that the PTJ would seem to have a bit of a name for, one way or another, failing to deliver its promised services. Have heard a fair number of sad stories re things working out thus. When I did the line in 2012, I had an anxious couple of hours at Villefranche: the working that I'd planned to take, would perhaps be cancelled, or perhaps it would run -- in the end, fortunately, it did run. I would have travelled the line in full, one way or another; but the threatened cancellation would have messed up later journeyings for me.
 

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The Spanish side of the Pyrenees is definitely worth doing. The contrast between the Spaghetti-western (or should that be paella-western?;) ) terrain at the top as you leave Latour de Carol towards Puigcerdà, dropping into rugged moorland for a while around La Molina before the rapid descent down the valley through forests, with the railway clinging to the sides of cliffs or steep hillsides. Once you hit Ripoll (look out for the two old locos parked up there, one fitted with snowploughs and the other rusting away) things flatten out, but with the mountains still surrounding the views are still worth it. The station at Vic is surprisingly large and modern, and from there the line seems flat with mostly agricultural surroundings. The last few miles are more industrial and not quite as pretty as you weave through the sprawl of Barcelona. There are often delays due to the large sections of single track, and being suburban stock there's no catering so bring some sandwiches. The large windows do offer great views though, providing they haven't been graffiti'd. There's graffiti pretty much everywhere on the Spanish side, even high in the hills, but the interiors of the trains are kept largely free. The most disappointing/boring part of the journey is the final few stops in the underground section of the city to Sants station, but you'd get that whichever way you arrive.
 

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Let us know how you get on.
It wasn't third time lucky for me :( decided to get the 08.16 bus from Perpignan, but, guess what, it never turned up.

To compound the misery, the ticket I needed to buy for the train instead to go from Perpignan to Barcelona is a full €60 on the day, whereas in advance it would have been much cheaper.

(I did consider the cheaper Portbou route, or a coach, but they were both many hours slower).

Currently sitting at Perpignan station feeling rather fed up!
 

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https://www.valldenuria.cat/content/pdf/aafftarifarivalldenria_ok_bx.pdf

Not cheap but very good. However, this site suggests it only opens for Winter/ski season on 1st December. I stand to be corrected as it is in Catalan.

I love it because the rolling stock allows to look at the track ahead. Stunning scenery, and you get to understand how rack switches work...

Same equipment, as far as I remember, on the rack railway to Monserrat. The train trip to there is something to considere seriously if you spend a few days in Barcelona.

And, incidentally, same equipment on the Train Jaune too (so we are back on topic) but :
- It's too heavy for the track, so is under-used ;
- Train driver unions managed to block the forward view "because it infringed on driver's right to privacy".
 

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It wasn't third time lucky for me :( decided to get the 08.16 bus from Perpignan, but, guess what, it never turned up.

To compound the misery, the ticket I needed to buy for the train instead to go from Perpignan to Barcelona is a full €60 on the day, whereas in advance it would have been much cheaper.

(I did consider the cheaper Portbou route, or a coach, but they were both many hours slower).

Currently sitting at Perpignan station feeling rather fed up!


OH what a shame, what did you do in the end.?
 

Dougal2345

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OH what a shame, what did you do in the end.?
I coughed up the €60 for the direct Perpignan-Barcelona train :( so although I got a refund for the €23.50 I'd spent on the Perp-Latour Carol tickets, it was more money than I was hoping to spend.

I think I won't try this again until the train service is restored from Perp-Villefranche V-L-B (if that ever happens - the SNCF site says "Train traffic is interrupted between Perpignan and Villefranche until further notice following a road accident in Millas. Substitution coaches are set up." - which seems to have been the story since this spring). Or unless there's a hotel within walking distance of Villefranche VLB station....
 

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I coughed up the €60 for the direct Perpignan-Barcelona train :( so although I got a refund for the €23.50 I'd spent on the Perp-Latour Carol tickets, it was more money than I was hoping to spend.

I think I won't try this again until the train service is restored from Perp-Villefranche V-L-B (if that ever happens - the SNCF site says "Train traffic is interrupted between Perpignan and Villefranche until further notice following a road accident in Millas. Substitution coaches are set up." - which seems to have been the story since this spring). Or unless there's a hotel within walking distance of Villefranche VLB station....
Yes, that is probably the best plan.
 
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