Been watching a lot of videos
on YouTube of these and there are pretty
strong feelings against these from what I
have read in some of the comments.
Like them or loath them is the main attitude I see.
My experience with travelling on them has
almost always been fine tbh.
The only exception was one turned up at Warrington Central about 15mins late due to only the back car working,hence it was about 45mph flat out back to Lime Street.
My first experience on 142s was when I moved to Liverpool in 1989 and I took an instant liking to them.
The Pacers hadn't reached Cardiff in time before I moved up!
Anyway,back in Liverpool, many still had the old engines and gearboxes,so it was hilarious listening to the engines changing gear,sometimes not even in unison lol.
I did however have an opinion after the Winsford accident that at best,the Pacers should remain on local lines only,even though it was an ecs move at the time running on the WCML.
I have always been a fan though.
On an overnight class 37 bash from Holyhead,waiting at Llandudno Jcn,my train turned up with a pair of 142s+150 vice the 37 and stock.
I was determined to bash this as Pacers in New Street would have been a major claim!
It didn't happen tjough,as the 2 142s were detached at Chester to my horror and the 150 went solo!
The main complaints from people I have noticed on youtube...
Always overcrowded
Bus style seats
Nodding donkey rides.
There is always going to be complaints about something old up north when London and the South keep getting new trains all the time!
Most of those contributes have now been sorted except overcrowding which is really down to the operator.
Although these are nearing the end of their lives due to DDA compliant regulations,we must remember that intended as a short gap,these have actually performed very well on their local and inner suburban lines they were intended for,and deserve their place in British Rail history whether you like them or not.
One of each should be saved for preservation in my opinion.
Always a divider this one lol.
As rail enthusiasts,many of us hated the
HST's when they first came out as they replaced the much loved Westerns and Deltics.
Like sprinters replacing the old DMU's and 66s replacing 37,47s and 56s.
And even now, the IEPs replacing the HST's.
Ha,the only thing I have never really forgiven was the Voyagers replacing 47s and HST's.
We have all moved on and shown our respect for what we had.
Pacers have their own following just like everything else,but admitting it can be something else though.
Happy replying
on YouTube of these and there are pretty
strong feelings against these from what I
have read in some of the comments.
Like them or loath them is the main attitude I see.
My experience with travelling on them has
almost always been fine tbh.
The only exception was one turned up at Warrington Central about 15mins late due to only the back car working,hence it was about 45mph flat out back to Lime Street.
My first experience on 142s was when I moved to Liverpool in 1989 and I took an instant liking to them.
The Pacers hadn't reached Cardiff in time before I moved up!
Anyway,back in Liverpool, many still had the old engines and gearboxes,so it was hilarious listening to the engines changing gear,sometimes not even in unison lol.
I did however have an opinion after the Winsford accident that at best,the Pacers should remain on local lines only,even though it was an ecs move at the time running on the WCML.
I have always been a fan though.
On an overnight class 37 bash from Holyhead,waiting at Llandudno Jcn,my train turned up with a pair of 142s+150 vice the 37 and stock.
I was determined to bash this as Pacers in New Street would have been a major claim!
It didn't happen tjough,as the 2 142s were detached at Chester to my horror and the 150 went solo!
The main complaints from people I have noticed on youtube...
Always overcrowded
Bus style seats
Nodding donkey rides.
There is always going to be complaints about something old up north when London and the South keep getting new trains all the time!
Most of those contributes have now been sorted except overcrowding which is really down to the operator.
Although these are nearing the end of their lives due to DDA compliant regulations,we must remember that intended as a short gap,these have actually performed very well on their local and inner suburban lines they were intended for,and deserve their place in British Rail history whether you like them or not.
One of each should be saved for preservation in my opinion.
Always a divider this one lol.
As rail enthusiasts,many of us hated the
HST's when they first came out as they replaced the much loved Westerns and Deltics.
Like sprinters replacing the old DMU's and 66s replacing 37,47s and 56s.
And even now, the IEPs replacing the HST's.
Ha,the only thing I have never really forgiven was the Voyagers replacing 47s and HST's.
We have all moved on and shown our respect for what we had.
Pacers have their own following just like everything else,but admitting it can be something else though.
Happy replying
