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90019
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I'd say it was a good shot, but I'd have the camera slightly more to the left, so the whole of the 150 is in shot, rather than having part of it cut off 
I agree with 90019 there, but another area of concern for me is the burnt out sky. That tends to happen when you shoot into the sun
That train was heading from Taunton-York in the morning so with it being a predominantly northbound train you're facing an awkward task to get a location where the sun isn't impeding you rather than working with you. The sun rises in the east so if you can get the train heading in a roughly easterly direction at any point in its journey then you'll get a well lit shot if the sun is out to play - hence the reason I went to Washwood Heath (http://www.ferret.fotopic.net/p61610073.html). Here, the train is heading towards the sun and so I've got a blue sky and sun on the nose of the loco.
In short, the choice of location can be crucial to the quality of your shot! When I'm going out to shoot a specific train, the first thing I do is look at the timings and then a map of the railway to see if I can get a location where the sun will be in the right place - ie sun shining on the nose and side of the loco. In this case, the train heads north at Kiddy so you're always going to be shooting towards where the sun is.
Anyway, on the plus side, the image is sharp and clear so there's nowt wrong there - but better positioning as described by 90019 and a better choice of location would yield a good quality shot I reckon!
That train was heading from Taunton-York in the morning so with it being a predominantly northbound train you're facing an awkward task to get a location where the sun isn't impeding you rather than working with you. The sun rises in the east so if you can get the train heading in a roughly easterly direction at any point in its journey then you'll get a well lit shot if the sun is out to play - hence the reason I went to Washwood Heath (http://www.ferret.fotopic.net/p61610073.html). Here, the train is heading towards the sun and so I've got a blue sky and sun on the nose of the loco.
In short, the choice of location can be crucial to the quality of your shot! When I'm going out to shoot a specific train, the first thing I do is look at the timings and then a map of the railway to see if I can get a location where the sun will be in the right place - ie sun shining on the nose and side of the loco. In this case, the train heads north at Kiddy so you're always going to be shooting towards where the sun is.
Anyway, on the plus side, the image is sharp and clear so there's nowt wrong there - but better positioning as described by 90019 and a better choice of location would yield a good quality shot I reckon!
Dunno why you bother mate, never works with that pet cloud of yours that you take everywhere!
Phoenix
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Dunno why you bother mate, never works with that pet cloud of yours that you take everywhere!
As long as he stays away from me with that cloud Im okay.
I honestly suffer from lazyness so I end up legging it to the locations just to miss my shots.
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curly42
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With a little cropping that would work very well,probably better than the first shot.
334fraser
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that looks a really good shot
thefab444
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It's rather... orange. Was it taken through the window of an FGW HST?
Nothing a quick fiddle with the WB can't sort out, it'll be a good shot then.
Nothing a quick fiddle with the WB can't sort out, it'll be a good shot then.
Teaboy1
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No easy answer, depends what your subject was meant to be?? I personally send quite a few minutes setting a planned shot up to see what I want in the frame and what I dont ( I always use a tripod and set it up there and then). Get the shot ready and then its waiting time............oh and do switch the mic on if you are videoing...........!!
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SouthEastern-465
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I think your shot is brilliant.
I disagree and think you were concentrating on the 37s not the other DMU.
I disagree and think you were concentrating on the 37s not the other DMU.
generalvegitable
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that is a good photo, but is it me or does it look a bit like a (very well designed) model railway?
Buffer68
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Second shot definitely better and indeed very good. If you crop it though be careful not to lose the point work as that adds character to a shot rather than just having straight rail lines only.
Bangroad
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Thanks for the better than expected comments folks.
Now you mention it, it does look a bit model y lol.....Its the mainline at Kidderminster with the dmu waiting in the turn back siding, the severn valley's lines are off to the right.
Now you mention it, it does look a bit model y lol.....Its the mainline at Kidderminster with the dmu waiting in the turn back siding, the severn valley's lines are off to the right.
73110
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Hi. Hope you don't mind but I messed about a bit.
First one is cropped, pretty straightforward to get rid of all the mess around the picture and to concentrate on the two main subjects. Added foreground interest is the dummy on the floor and the lead in lines are the tracks too. I deliberately left the space on the right to include the interesting signals and to give the train 'some space to drive into'.
Nothing I can do about the sky though so cropped as much of that out. If I had the original RAW picture could do well with that. Second I just added a bit of blur!
First one is cropped, pretty straightforward to get rid of all the mess around the picture and to concentrate on the two main subjects. Added foreground interest is the dummy on the floor and the lead in lines are the tracks too. I deliberately left the space on the right to include the interesting signals and to give the train 'some space to drive into'.
Nothing I can do about the sky though so cropped as much of that out. If I had the original RAW picture could do well with that. Second I just added a bit of blur!
SouthEastern-465
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I got to agree too.
73110
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What don't you agree with?
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So are you going to explain why then?
If you are going to insult me like this at least have the balls to back up what you say!
If you don't agree with the crop just say so.
If you don't agree with what I have written tell me why and be polite about it, calling it rubbish is an insult to me.
If you think it is rubbish please tell me why. If I called someones work "Rubbish" I would take the time to explain why so they can learn something from me, not insult them then hide away behind a keyboard. That is just so disrespectful and spineless.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
So are you going to explain why then?
If you are going to insult me like this at least have the balls to back up what you say!
If you don't agree with the crop just say so.
If you don't agree with what I have written tell me why and be polite about it, calling it rubbish is an insult to me.
If you think it is rubbish please tell me why. If I called someones work "Rubbish" I would take the time to explain why so they can learn something from me, not insult them then hide away behind a keyboard. That is just so disrespectful and spineless.
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Sun Chariot
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Bangroad - firstly, you've done well; and it's a shame that Mother Nature decides to put the sun where we photographers don't want it
I agree with those who've said about cropping and colour-cast. I'm of the schooling that just as much can go on after pressing the shutter, than the preparation that went on beforehand. And, you know what, it's just as fun!
Forgive me for pirating your great photo, but I've made a subtly different crop to that done by 73110 - it keeps the tree-tops in but removes the trackside clutter. Whaddaya think?
I agree with those who've said about cropping and colour-cast. I'm of the schooling that just as much can go on after pressing the shutter, than the preparation that went on beforehand. And, you know what, it's just as fun!
Forgive me for pirating your great photo, but I've made a subtly different crop to that done by 73110 - it keeps the tree-tops in but removes the trackside clutter. Whaddaya think?
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73110
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That is a nice crop. Better than mine I think. You managed to keep all of the tree in on the right and both signals too. Cool 
Sun Chariot
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Thanks, 73110. In MS Office Picture Manager, I also added some more cyan into the colour-balance, to remove the orange tint to the original.
adamp
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Sorry to basically hijack this thread but as mentioned above, how do would you make that white sky normal again with RAW files?
73110
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If it is a RAW file then I would put it through Lightroom and have a play with a few things there see what happened after a few tweeks.
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