Paris Eurostar route

[Gadget88]

There is an underground station and long tunnel around 30 mins out of Paris is this a large station/city? How come it doesn’t stop there? Guessing it’s not Lille as that’s the other direction but it seems similar tunnel wise.

 

[CMS]

There is an underground station and long tunnel around 30 mins out of Paris is this a large station/city? How come it doesn’t stop there? Guessing it’s not Lille as that’s the other direction but it seems similar tunnel wise.

Hi, that is Lille! The station is Lille-Europe and Paris trains only stop there if there are engineering works or for operational reasons, although Paris trains did used to stop there but as passenger numbers grew and the occasional Lille-Paris commuter tried to sneak on, Lille was confined to Brussels and Disney trains only. A Paris Eurostar normally passes non-stop about 55-60 minutes before arrival into Paris.

 

[Ianno87]

Hi, that is Lille! The station is Lille-Europe and Paris trains only stop there if there are engineering works or for operational reasons, although Paris trains did used to stop there but as passenger numbers grew and the occasional Lille-Paris commuter tried to sneak on, Lille was confined to Brussels and Disney trains only. A Paris Eurostar normally passes non-stop about 55-60 minutes before arrival into Paris.

The other reason for Parises non-stopping Lille is that suits the now standard hourly timetable pattern for the whole of LGV Nord. That and Paris trains can quite easily fill themselves up without adding another stop nowadays.

 

[Gadget88]

Hi, that is Lille! The station is Lille-Europe and Paris trains only stop there if there are engineering works or for operational reasons, although Paris trains did used to stop there but as passenger numbers grew and the occasional Lille-Paris commuter tried to sneak on, Lille was confined to Brussels and Disney trains only. A Paris Eurostar normally passes non-stop about 55-60 minutes before arrival into Paris.

Wow interesting so it was going that quick that’s why I wasn’t quite sure it was Lille. Do the Marseille trains go another route? I assume Paris is the first major city for the Eurostar to stop behind Lille then? I take it there is a different join in the line after Lille for the Belgium trains then?

 

[Gadget88]

The other reason for Parises non-stopping Lille is that suits the now standard hourly timetable pattern for the whole of LGV Nord. That and Paris trains can quite easily fill themselves up without adding another stop nowadays.

Is Paris much greater passenger numbers then Brussels? How do the numbers compare? Saying that each time I’m on either train they seem busy but I did read about Amsterdam trains not being full?

 

[Ianno87]

Wow interesting so it was going that quick that’s why I wasn’t quite sure it was Lille. Do the Marseille trains go another route? I assume Paris is the first major city for the Eurostar to stop behind Lille then? I take it there is a different join in the line after Lille for the Belgium trains then?

A few miles beyond (Paris-side) of Lille there is a big triangular grade separated junction where Paris and Brussels trains diverge, called Bifurcation de Fretin (the Lille end*). The third side of the triangle permits direcr Paris-Brussels trains.

*Brussels end is Bifurcation de Péronne. Can't remember name of Paris end.

Look on Google Earth and you should be able to see it (nearish Lille Airport)

 

[Gadget88]

A few miles beyond (Paris-side) of Lille there is a big triangular grade separated junction where Paris and Brussels trains diverge, called Bifurcation de Fretin (the Lille end*). The third side of the triangle permits direcr Paris-Brussels trains.

*Brussels end is Bifurcation de Péronne. Can't remember name of Paris end.

Look on Google Earth and you should be able to see it (nearish Lille Airport)

Cool Will check i have been to Lille before and know there is two stations I think it’s quite a popular place to stay to transfer to other locations to avoid going into Paris.

 

[AlexNL]

I did read about Amsterdam trains not being full?

That service has been running since April 2018, so still needs to develop.

As of April 2019 the service intensity to Amsterdam will increase from 2x to 3x a day.

 

[edwin_m]

Wow interesting so it was going that quick that’s why I wasn’t quite sure it was Lille. Do the Marseille trains go another route? I assume Paris is the first major city for the Eurostar to stop behind Lille then? I take it there is a different join in the line after Lille for the Belgium trains then?

A few miles north of Paris there is another junction where the line goes off to the east via CDG airport (you can just about see takeoffs and landings from the Paris train) and Disneyland. This is used by the trains that go beyond Paris.