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sufian123

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But at least both 323s and 350s would have the same branding with LM

As the franchise is spilt. Maybe London midland would’ve decided to change the names. Keep London midland for west coast. Different for West Midlands. This will be fixed in a few years time. Different liveries.
 

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As the franchise is spilt. Maybe London midland would’ve decided to change the names. Keep London midland for west coast. Different for West Midlands. This will be fixed in a few years time. Different liveries.
Come December we could have 172/0s running around on WMR jobs in London Overground livery with no loos thanks to the cock up with introducing 710s on GOBLIN.
 

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Watched a video online recently and noticed that the London North Western Railway livery is less colourful than the West Midlands Trains livery in that it was mostly white between the cabs of the train. Nice to see the new colours coming to Liverpool at least. Did anybody ever actually know this was going to happen before the livery got rolled out? Was it always part of the plan?
 

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Watched a video online recently and noticed that the London North Western Railway livery is less colourful than the West Midlands Trains livery in that it was mostly white between the cabs of the train. Nice to see the new colours coming to Liverpool at least. Did anybody ever actually know this was going to happen before the livery got rolled out? Was it always part of the plan?

That the franchise would be split between the services operating withing the West Midlands area (geographical not political area) and those based on the WCML was known from the franchise renewal process. How the split will work is still not entirely clear as some LNW trains operate local service in the West Midlands before going on to Liverpool.
 

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350377 the latest in the new livery. Only 370/71/72/76 now of the 3s in lm colours and presumably one of those is now in for relivery.
 

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Updated list of all the WMR branded trains/stations (as of 18/9/18).
Mods - feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
Stour Valley Line (COV-WVH, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
All WMR-operated stations between Coventry & New Street are in WMR orange & grey.
>Smethwick Rolfe Street: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Smethwick Galton Bridge: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Sandwell & Dudley: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Dudley Port: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Tipton: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Coseley: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wolverhampton: WMR signs, orange/grey lampposts

Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
>Lichfield Trent Valley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lichfield City: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Shenstone: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Blake Street: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Butlers Lane: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Four Oaks: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Sutton Coldfield: Network WM (Olympic gold) signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wylde Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Chester Road: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Erdington: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Gravelly Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Duddeston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Five Ways: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>University: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Selly Oak: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bournville: Network WM signs, Purple "Cadbury" lampposts
>Kings Norton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Northfield: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Longbridge: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Barnt Green: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Alvechurch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Redditch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bromsgrove: non-standard signs, blue/yellow lampposts

Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
>Stratford-upon-Avon: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wilmcote: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wootton Wawen: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Henley-in-Arden: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Danzey: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wood End: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>The Lakes: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Earlswood: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wythall: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Whitlocks End: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shirley: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Yardley Wood: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Hall Green: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Spring Road: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Widney Manor: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Solihull: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Olton: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Acocks Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Tyseley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Small Heath: Network WMsigns, unpainted lampposts
>Bordesley: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR signs, orange/purple lampposts
>Jewellery Quarter: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>The Hawthorns: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rowley Regis: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Old Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cradley Heath: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lye: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stourbridge Junction: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
(>Stourbridge Town: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts)
>Hagley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Blakedown: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kidderminster: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hartlebury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Droitwich Spa: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Shrub Hill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Foregate Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Malvern Link: LM/old-style GWR signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Great Malvern: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Colwall: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ledbury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
>Witton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Perry Barr: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Hamstead: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Tame Bridge Parkway: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bescot Stadium: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Walsall: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bloxwich: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bloxwich North: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Landywood: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cannock: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hednesford: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rugeley Town: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Others
>Water Orton: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Wilnecote: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Tamworth HL: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Coleshill Parkway: LM signs, unpainted posts
>Stone: orange & white??
>Kenilworth: similar to Bromsgrove
>Coventry Arena: LM signs, green/black (LM) posts
>Bedworth: LM signs, orange/grey posts
>Bermuda Park: LM signs, orange/grey posts
>Bilbrook: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Codsall: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Albrighton: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Cosford: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shifnal: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Telford Central: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Oakengates: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wellington: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts

Trains
Class 139
139001: LM livery, WMR branding
139002: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 150 (all to transfer to Northern):
150105: LM livery, WMR branding
150107: ditto
150109: ditto

Class 153 (all to transfer to EMT):
153334: LM livery, WMR branding
153354: ditto
153356: ditto
153364: ditto
153365: ditto
153366: ditto
153371: ditto
153375: ditto

Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise)
170501: WMR "outgoing" livery
170502: WMR "outgoing" livery
170503: WMR "outgoing" livery
170504: WMR "outgoing" livery
170505: WMR "outgoing" livery
170506: WMR "outgoing" livery
170507: WMR "outgoing" livery
170508: WMR "outgoing" livery
170509: WMR "outgoing" livery
170510: WMR "outgoing" livery
170511: WMR "outgoing" livery
170512: WMR "outgoing" livery
170513: LM livery, WMR branding
170514: WMR "outgoing" livery
170515: WMR "outgoing" livery
170516: WMR "outgoing" livery
170517: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 170/6 (3-cars, due to leave the franchise)
170630: LM livery, WMR branding
170631: ditto
170632: ditto
170633: ditto
170634: ditto
170635: ditto

Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground)
172001: still with LO
172002: at Tyseley (?) awaiting mods and repaint
172003: as per 001
172004: ditto
172005: ditto
172006: ditto
172007: ditto
172008: ditto

Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway)
172211: LM livery, WMR branding
172212: ditto
172213: ditto
172214: ditto
172215: ditto
172216: ditto
172217: ditto
172218: ditto
172219: ditto
172220: ditto
172221: ditto
172222: ditto

Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway)
172331: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172332: LM livery, WMR branding
172333: LM livery, WMR branding
172334: LM livery, WMR branding
172335: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172336: LM livery, WMR branding
172337: LM livery, WMR branding
172338: Final orange/purple WMR livery (confirmed as of 6/10)
172339: Prototypical purple WMR livery
172340: LM livery, WMR branding
172341: LM livery, WMR branding
172342: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172343: LM livery, WMR branding
172344: LM livery, WMR branding
172345: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 323 (due to leave the franchise)
323201: LM livery, WMR branding
323202: WMR "outgoing" livery
323203: WMR "outgoing" livery
323204: WMR "outgoing" livery
323205: WMR "outgoing" livery
323206: WMR "outgoing" livery (confirmed as of 6/10)
323207: WMR "outgoing" livery (confirmed as of 6/10)
323208: LM livery, WMR branding
323209: WMR "outgoing" livery
323210: LM livery, WMR branding
323211: LM livery, WMR branding
323212: WMR "outgoing" livery
323213: WMR "outgoing" livery
323214: LM livery, WMR branding
323215: LM livery, WMR branding
323216: WMR "outgoing" livery
323217: LM livery, WMR branding
323218: WMR "outgoing" livery
323219: LM livery, WMR branding
323220: WMR "outgoing" livery
323221: LM livery, WMR (+ BTP) branding
323222: LM livery, WMR branding
323240: WMR "outgoing" livery
323241: LM livery, WMR branding
323242: LM livery, WMR branding
323243: LM livery, WMR branding

(NB: WCML stations and Class 230s, 319s and 350s are omitted as they fall under the LNWR umbrella and this list focuses on the WMR side of things)
Feel free to quote this post with any updates to the list!
 
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And a similarly updated list for the LNWR fleet/stations (as of 18/9/18).
Mods - again, feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
WCML
>Watford Junction: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Kings Langley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Apsley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hemel Hempstead: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Berkhamsted: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Tring: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cheddington: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Leighton Buzzard: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts (confirmed as of 2/10)
>Bletchley: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Milton Keynes Central: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Wolverton: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Northampton: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Long Buckby: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Nuneaton: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Atherstone: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Polesworth: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Tamworth: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts (both levels)
>Lichfield TV: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rugeley TV: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Winsford: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Hartford: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Acton Bridge: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts

Abbey Line
>
Watford North: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Garston: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bricket Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>How Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Park Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>St. Albans Abbey: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Marston Vale Line
>Fenny Stratford: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bow Brickhill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Woburn Sands: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aspley Guise: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ridgmont: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lidlington: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Millbrook (Beds): LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stewartby: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kempston Hardwick: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bedford St. Johns: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Trains
Class 230
230003: Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery

Class 319
319002: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319005: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319008: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319012: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319013: LM livery, LNWR branding
319215: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319216: LM livery, LNWR branding
319220: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319429: LM livery, LNWR branding
319433: LM livery, LNWR branding
319441: LM livery, LNWR branding
319457: LM livery, LNWR branding (with white cab ends)
319460: LM livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/1
350101-109: LM livery, LNWR branding
350110: LM "Project 110" livery, LNWR branding
350111-130: LM Livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/2 (due to leave the franchise)
350231: LM livery, LNWR branding
350232: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350233: LM livery, LNWR branding
350234: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350235: LM livery (with BTP wrap), LNWR branding
350236-239: LM livery, LNWR branding
350240: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350241-243: LM livery, LNWR branding
350244: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350245: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350246-252: LM livery, LNWR branding
350253: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350254-256: LM livery, LNWR branding
350257: LNWR "outgoing" livery (confirmed as of 6/10)
350258: LM livery, LNWR branding
350259: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350260: LM livery, LNWR branding
350261: LM livery, LNWR branding
350262: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350263: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350264-266: LM livery, LNWR branding
350267: LNWR "outgoing" livery

Class 350/3 - all reliveried
350368-372; 350374-377: Full (revised) LNWR livery, with 1st Class Stripe
350373: Full (revised?) LNWR livery, with 1st Class Stripe
 
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Updated list of all the WMR branded trains/stations (as of 18/9/18).
Mods - feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
Stour Valley Line (COV-WVH, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
All WMR-operated stations between Coventry & New Street are in WMR orange & grey.
>Smethwick Rolfe Street: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Smethwick Galton Bridge: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Sandwell & Dudley: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Dudley Port: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Tipton: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Coseley: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wolverhampton: WMR signs, orange/grey lampposts

Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
>Lichfield Trent Valley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lichfield City: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Shenstone: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Blake Street: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Butlers Lane: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Four Oaks: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Sutton Coldfield: Network WM (Olympic gold) signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wylde Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Chester Road: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Erdington: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Gravelly Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Duddeston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Five Ways: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>University: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Selly Oak: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bournville: Network WM signs, Purple "Cadbury" lampposts
>Kings Norton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Northfield: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Longbridge: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Barnt Green: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Alvechurch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Redditch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bromsgrove: non-standard signs, blue/yellow lampposts

Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
>Stratford-upon-Avon: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wilmcote: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wootton Wawen: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Henley-in-Arden: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Danzey: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wood End: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>The Lakes: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Earlswood: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wythall: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Whitlocks End: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shirley: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Yardley Wood: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Hall Green: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Spring Road: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Widney Manor: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Solihull: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Olton: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Acocks Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Tyseley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Small Heath: Network WMsigns, unpainted lampposts
>Bordesley: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR signs, orange/purple lampposts
>Jewellery Quarter: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>The Hawthorns: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rowley Regis: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Old Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cradley Heath: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lye: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stourbridge Junction: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
(>Stourbridge Town: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts)
>Hagley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Blakedown: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kidderminster: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hartlebury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Droitwich Spa: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Shrub Hill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Foregate Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Malvern Link: LM/old-style GWR signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Great Malvern: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Colwall: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ledbury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
>Witton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Perry Barr: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Hamstead: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Tame Bridge Parkway: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bescot Stadium: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Walsall: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bloxwich: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bloxwich North: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Landywood: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cannock: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hednesford: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rugeley Town: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Others
>Water Orton: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Wilnecote: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Tamworth HL: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Coleshill Parkway: LM signs, unpainted posts
>Stone: orange & white??
>Kenilworth: similar to Bromsgrove
>Bilbrook: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Codsall: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Albrighton: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Cosford: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shifnal: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Telford Central: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Oakengates: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wellington: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts

Trains
Class 139
139001: LM livery, WMR branding
139002: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 150 (all to transfer to Northern):
150105: LM livery, WMR branding
150107: ditto
150109: ditto

Class 153 (all to transfer to EMT):
153334: LM livery, WMR branding
153354: ditto
153356: ditto
153364: ditto
153365: ditto
153366: ditto
153371: ditto
153375: ditto

Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise)
170501: LM livery, WMR branding
170502: LM livery, WMR branding
170503: WMR "outgoing" livery
170504: WMR "outgoing" livery
170505: WMR "outgoing" livery
170506: WMR "outgoing" livery
170507: WMR "outgoing" livery
170508: WMR "outgoing" livery
170509: LM livery, WMR branding
170510: WMR "outgoing" livery
170511: WMR "outgoing" livery
170512: WMR "outgoing" livery
170513: LM livery, WMR branding
170514: WMR "outgoing" livery
170515: WMR "outgoing" livery
170516: WMR "outgoing" livery
170517: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 170/6 (3-cars, due to leave the franchise)
170630: LM livery, WMR branding
170631: ditto
170632: ditto
170633: ditto
170634: ditto
170635: ditto

Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground)
172001: still with LO
172002: at Tyseley (?) awaiting mods and repaint
172003: as per 001
172004: ditto
172005: ditto
172006: ditto
172007: ditto
172008: ditto

Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway)
172211: LM livery, WMR branding
172212: ditto
172213: ditto
172214: ditto
172215: ditto
172216: ditto
172217: ditto
172218: ditto
172219: ditto
172220: ditto
172221: ditto
172222: ditto

Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway)
172331: LM livery, WMR branding
172332: LM livery, WMR branding
172333: LM livery, WMR branding
172334: LM livery, WMR branding
172335: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172336: LM livery, WMR branding
172337: LM livery, WMR branding
172338: LM livery, WMR branding
172339: Prototypical purple WMR livery
172340: LM livery, WMR branding
172341: LM livery, WMR branding
172342: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172343: LM livery, WMR branding
172344: LM livery, WMR branding
172345: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 323 (due to leave the franchise)
323201: LM livery, WMR branding
323202: WMR "outgoing" livery
323203: WMR "outgoing" livery
323204: WMR "outgoing" livery
323205: WMR "outgoing" livery
323206: LM livery, WMR branding
323207: LM livery, WMR branding
323208: LM livery, WMR branding
323209: WMR "outgoing" livery
323210: LM livery, WMR branding
323211: LM livery, WMR branding
323212: WMR "outgoing" livery
323213: WMR "outgoing" livery
323214: LM livery, WMR branding
323215: LM livery, WMR branding
323216: WMR "outgoing" livery
323217: LM livery, WMR branding
323218: LM livery, WMR branding
323219: LM livery, WMR branding
323220: WMR "outgoing" livery
323221: LM livery, WMR (+ BTP) branding
323222: LM livery, WMR branding
323240: LM livery, WMR branding
323241: LM livery, WMR branding
323242: LM livery, WMR branding
323243: LM livery, WMR branding

(NB: WCML stations and Class 230s, 319s and 350s are omitted as they fall under the LNWR umbrella and this list focuses on the WMR side of things)
Feel free to quote this post with any updates to the list!

Class 172331 in full branding now. I saw it yesterday Monday 17th September.
 

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That the franchise would be split between the services operating withing the West Midlands area (geographical not political area) and those based on the WCML was known from the franchise renewal process. How the split will work is still not entirely clear as some LNW trains operate local service in the West Midlands before going on to Liverpool.

Had no idea there was a planned split, but I would assume that both liveries would be set to the franchise rather than the operator. My only wonder is whether the split will occur when the franchise runs out and has a split, or if it will happen mid-point. It's not unknown for that to happen. CrossCountry underwent review when Virgin lost it and cut the original franchise short by five years, but I would hope for the sake of things being in order that any split would occur when the current one runs out. I've heard West Coast Partnership might split the WCML and HS2 operations once that franchise is over, but that is still many years away so we cannot make any of those judgments just yet.
 

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Solihull is a Chiltern station, I am 99% sure it doesn't have LM green/black lampposts (black and blue according to google images), I notice Dorridge is omitted so assume mistake.

Does anyone know if the old style stations are going to be tangoed or keep their old traditional colours?
 

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Solihull is a Chiltern station, I am 99% sure it doesn't have LM green/black lampposts (black and blue according to google images), I notice Dorridge is omitted so assume mistake.

Does anyone know if the old style stations are going to be tangoed or keep their old traditional colours?
I've no idea about the "traditional" stations; but I was certainly unaware of Solihull now being under Chiltern control. Last I saw of it, it had NetworkWM signage, and black/green lampposts.
 

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It’s been under Chiltern Railways control for a while now.

I must say the branding list is a good idea of yours 59CosG95. When I created the thread I never thought of including that! :)
 

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Can also now add 170509 as being tangoed. On Birmingham to Shrewsbury services today

Mark
 

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350370 heading in for rebrand later this evening. 372 should be the one released as 371 and 376 both out today as the sole LM liveries /3s.
 

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Where is this Kings Heath? The only Kings Heath I know of is the one in Birmingham on the Camp Hill line which still hasn't had any stations rebuilt, I see it mentioned a lot but never know!
It's the Siemens Depot just north of Northampton where all the 350s are based.
 

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350373: Full (revised) LNWR livery, with 1st Class Stripe

To be slightly pedantic should this be 'full prototype LNWR livery'?

The revised one was applied to all following 350/3s after 373, and has narrower diaganol green stripes, slightly less green at the ends of each coach than 373 has, and is more symmetrical, with the stripes being in roughly the same place on each coach. Whereas /373 has diaganol lines in slightly different places on some coaches to others.
373 also has the original LNR logos on in the Helevectica font, the rest have the revised LNR logo in the new slimmer font with the straight ended y in railway :).

The following 350/3s were done in metallic vinyl with 373 still being in the original Matt vinyl.
 
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Just a note on Wilnecote - it’s currentky in some kind of hybrid/half finished WMR/LM colour scheme...
 

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