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Movies with date inconsistency

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One travelled back in time to 1964 when it briefly appeared in the background in the film Quadrophenia.

There's quite a few serious anachronistic blunders in Quadrophenia, I don't think they went to much effort at all to ensure period details were authentically represented. There's several scenes featuring what is clearly early 80s traffic, with a huge number of vehicles present that hadn't been thought of in the sixties.
I can think one off the top of my head: early br carriages (cycling lion logo) in the recent swallows and amazons movie set in 1935.
 
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I can think one off the top of my head: early br carriages (cycling lion logo) in the recent swallows and amazons movie set in 1935.
Same with a locl in the TV serialisation of Conrad's "The Secret Agent" set in the noughties of the 20th century.

IIRC the film The Password is Courage had BR markings clearly identifiable on wagons supposedly in occupied Poland during WW2.
 

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Sealink ferry in the background in the Dover scenes in Magnificent Men and Their Flying Machines...
 

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I seem to remember there's either a BR Standard or an Ivatt class 2 or similar that pops up briefly in The Elephant Man, rather spoiling an otherwise brilliant film.
 

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Pretty much every historical film. Propably most futuristc ones too...
 

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An Avro Lincoln appears at least once in 'The Dam Busters'. (Didn't notice this until I saw the remastered version at the cinema)
 

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There is so much to find on the Internet. Horse races in ancient Rome with a (gas)canister in the back does not look right.
 

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Schindlers list (obviously set in Nazi-occupied Poland in WWII), features a steam locomotive pulling in on an overhead electrified railway.

To be fair, the filmmakers did recognise this, but preferred to use the actual location as per the real-life story, rather than use wherever the Polish equivalent of Horsted Keynes is (and probably impractical to temporarily de-electrify the railway for a film!)
 

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Schindlers list (obviously set in Nazi-occupied Poland in WWII), features a steam locomotive pulling in on an overhead electrified railway.

To be fair, the filmmakers did recognise this, but preferred to use the actual location as per the real-life story, rather than use wherever the Polish equivalent of Horsted Keynes is (and probably impractical to temporarily de-electrify the railway for a film!)
With so much diesel under the wires over here these days I wouldn't take steam under the wires as an issue, especially with infrastructure being bombed.

I don't get worked up about the models of steam locos or aircraft unless something is really glaring as the right equipment for 100% accuracy is often unavailable. Rather it is the things that an intellegent non enthusiast should notice like British Railways branding in Edwardian times.
 

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One of the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes films from a few years ago featured a silly mistake. The film is set in the 1890s, at one point a German flag is shown but it's the current black, red and gold flag (first used by the Weimar republic after world war 1) rather than the red, white and black flag of the German Empire used from it's formation as a nation state in 1871 until 1918.
 

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Another case of flag inaccuracy (at least strictly and technically): in the deservedly much-praised serial television adaptation, thirty-odd years ago, of Herman Wouk's The Winds of War: in a scene of a seaport of one of the Allied nations, early in World War II, ships were shown flying various national flags -- idea being, I think, to emphasise the breadth of the conflict, and the variety of nations taking part on the Allies' side. One vessel sported the Canadian flag; the present-day one (bold red and white, with the maple-leaf device). Canada adopted this flag only in 1965: previously, its flag had been basically red, with a small Union-flag device in the top left-hand corner, and on the red field, a smallish shield bearing "various different heraldic stuff in different periods".

I suspect that here, the series' makers (whose period detail was if I remember rightly, usually of pretty high accuracy) made a compromise -- in the interests of making the point that the ship was Canadian, they reckoned it worth being technically wrong on one tiny thing, and upsetting a few extreme vexillology-nerds; rather than show what would be to a large majority of the viewers, an unfamiliar and unrecognisable flag. Dare I suggest the possibility of a similar action, for similar reasons, on the part of the makers of the Sherlock Holmes film mentioned above by gg1 ?
 

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In the most recent Indiana Jones film (crystal skull), Belize is shown on a map but said country was known as British Honduras at the time the film was set.
 

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Harry Potter is meant to be set in the 90s, yet in the 5th Movie, the LUL scene had ticket gates complete with Oyster Readers. The first movie had streaks of GNER despite it meant to be 1991 and the epilogue at Deathly Hallows pt2 had a Virgin WC mk3 set, even though Virgin EC (who would be the franchise during that time) don't have a mk3 set that's the pretendo...
 

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Harry Potter is meant to be set in the 90s, yet in the 5th Movie, the LUL scene had ticket gates complete with Oyster Readers. The first movie had streaks of GNER despite it meant to be 1991 and the epilogue at Deathly Hallows pt2 had a Virgin WC mk3 set, even though Virgin EC (who would be the franchise during that time) don't have a mk3 set that's the pretendo...

I don't think it's central to the plot, though, and the timing of the books is only identifiable in one or two places, such as a gravestone date in Chamber of Secrets. Otherwise, the books are quite timeless in the way they're written.
 

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and do any of these issues spoil the enjoyment of the films in question?
In most cases, where the error is technical or minor then no. The example I quoted introduced a time anomaly of almost a century, which is rather jarring and hard to get past.
 

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and do any of these issues spoil the enjoyment of the films in question?

I would suggest: for many of us, no; or very little -- it's just that nitpicking films for inconsistencies / anachronisms / anomalies generally, can be fun in itself.
 

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I would suggest: for many of us, no; or very little -- it's just that nitpicking films for inconsistencies / anachronisms / anomalies generally, can be fun in itself.
For some an anachronsim can be glaring and detract from the enjoyment while others won't even notice it.

My ex complained about my nit picking when I spotted what was supposed to be a close up of a seventeenth century estate map in a film with names in a sans serif font clearly drawn with a Rotring template. As I was using one of those templates in a course that I was doing at the time it really jumped out at me.
 

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SO's can annoy each other that way (mine was an incurious soul -- film-nitpicking was not a thing that she did) re their respective specialities. I gather that people working in the medical field tend to pick up enormous numbers of film errors -- anachronisms or just stuff got wrong -- concerning their stock-in-trade.
 

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In North by Northwest a man (with a gun) and woman are standing in front of each other. Knowing that the gun will go off; a kid in the background puts his fingers in his ears.
 

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This is all a 'suspension of disblief' thing.
People go to a theatre to see a performance of Macbeth set in Thatcher's eighties against a sparsely sketched in office backdrop, red braces and all, and it's art. Make a film of the same, set in a contemporanious Scottish castle with full costume and speech and people will pick out the plastic ogee pattern guttering or some such trivia. The harder producers/directors try to avoid anachronisms the harder people will rise to the challenge and try to find them. I am guilty of this, no more so than when I see the accursed CGI. I feel I am watching electronic images with no sense of involvement.
 

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While I will spot technical errors about things SWMBO will rant about anachronisms in hair and makeup.
 
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