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I've just been to New York for a week with Mrs Telstarbox, so I've put together a few notes mostly on the transport side of things in case it helps anyone else thinking of going there. We were on a bit of a budget not helped by the current £ to $ exchange rate, but we found ways to save on costs as described below. Don't ask me about train classes or unit numbers as I wasn't looking for them :)

Flights: We flew with Virgin Atlantic from London Heathrow (LHR) to Newark (EWR) and I would fly with them again. The economy cabin and service was good, with a couple of meals each way (plus more drinks on request) and a good range of entertainment on personal screens. Although I'd heard about long immigration queues to enter the US, it only took us about 45 minutes from leaving the aircraft to the taxi rank. However on the return journey it took about half an hour for check-in and security at Newark Terminal B. We booked the "Go Airlink" shared minibus to/from our hotel - this company has mixed reviews online but the vehicles were on time and they got us there quickly in both directions.

Travel in NYC: a 7-day Unlimited MetroCard worked out as excellent value for the number of trips we made at $32. You can also buy Pay As You Go credit for single journeys. Live departure information is shown in the Google Maps app if you have data or WiFi access.* The Staten Island ferry is free and provides good views of the Statue of Liberty and back to Manhattan.

The Subway lines run frequently except late at night. On some lines there are "express" services which miss out some stops served by the "local" service (for example on the west side of Manhattan, the (1) is a local and the (2) and (3) are expresses). In summer the stations are hot and the air-conditioned trains are chilly! Even late at night there were lots of people on trains and stations and overall it felt as safe as London - there are quite a few beggars and buskers on the network but they are harmless.

We used a couple of bus services on Manhattan and Staten Island, which are sometimes quicker if your journey doesn't start or end at a Subway station.

We also took a day trip on the Long Island Rail Road from Penn Station to Syosset. This was a commuter train with comfortable 3 plus 2 seating and has its own fare structure.

Attractions: we partciularly liked the Museum of Modern Art (free on Fridays but busy), Central Park (which feels surprisingly rural in some bits), the MTA Transit Museum (which has a range of historic Subway cars in a disused station) and Williamsburg in Brooklyn.

Other stuff:
"Link NYC" is a free WiFi network provided via hotspots at bus stops and road junctions. Once you've signed in for the first time, your device should automatically pick up the signal whenever you're in range of one and this saves on mobile data (expensive on my phone deal!)
You can download offline maps onto Google Maps, again to save on data.
Our hotel room had a kitchenette - this was good as we got breakfast bits and snacks in the supermarket which helped our money go further.
Drink prices in bars seemed to vary widely even in the same street, although they were generally cheaper away from tourist traps like Times Square.
Tipping expectations seemed to be $1 per drink in bars, or a 15-20% on the overall bill in restaurants.
We used the Monzo card/app which charges no fees for foreign transactions and was accepted everywhere.

Hope this helps someone and let me know if you have any questions!
 
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Thanks for sharing this. I have enjoyed reading your review tonight.

Glad you enjoyed the flights with VS, and enjoyed NYC itself. Central Park is probably my fav bit of the city in all honesty (I've been 3 times before). It was where I had planned to propose to my wife, but things changed and I proposed to her over dinner in the city instead.

As mentioned elsewhere I probably wouldn't rush to fly BA again in a hurry. Reasons being poor service onboard in terms of food and drink on offer, and poor attitude from *some* cabin crew.

My wife is flying Norwegian for the first time next year (America) hopefully the service with them proves better than BA.

Cheers

Ben
 

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I've just been to New York for a week with Mrs Telstarbox, so I've put together a few notes mostly on the transport side of things in case it helps anyone else thinking of going there. We were on a bit of a budget not helped by the current £ to $ exchange rate, but we found ways to save on costs as described below. Don't ask me about train classes or unit numbers as I wasn't looking for them :)

Flights: We flew with Virgin Atlantic from London Heathrow (LHR) to Newark (EWR) and I would fly with them again. The economy cabin and service was good, with a couple of meals each way (plus more drinks on request) and a good range of entertainment on personal screens. Although I'd heard about long immigration queues to enter the US, it only took us about 45 minutes from leaving the aircraft to the taxi rank. However on the return journey it took about half an hour for check-in and security at Newark Terminal B. We booked the "Go Airlink" shared minibus to/from our hotel - this company has mixed reviews online but the vehicles were on time and they got us there quickly in both directions.

Travel in NYC: a 7-day Unlimited MetroCard worked out as excellent value for the number of trips we made at $32. You can also buy Pay As You Go credit for single journeys. Live departure information is shown in the Google Maps app if you have data or WiFi access.* The Staten Island ferry is free and provides good views of the Statue of Liberty and back to Manhattan.

The Subway lines run frequently except late at night. On some lines there are "express" services which miss out some stops served by the "local" service (for example on the west side of Manhattan, the (1) is a local and the (2) and (3) are expresses). In summer the stations are hot and the air-conditioned trains are chilly! Even late at night there were lots of people on trains and stations and overall it felt as safe as London - there are quite a few beggars and buskers on the network but they are harmless.

We used a couple of bus services on Manhattan and Staten Island, which are sometimes quicker if your journey doesn't start or end at a Subway station.

We also took a day trip on the Long Island Rail Road. This was a commuter train with comfortable 3 plus 2 seating and has its own fare structure.

Attractions: we partciularly liked the Museum of Modern Art (free on Fridays but busy), Central Park (which feels surprisingly rural in some bits), the MTA Transit Museum (which has a range of historic Subway cars in a disused station) and Williamsburg in Brooklyn.

Other stuff:
"Link NYC" is a free WiFi network provided via hotspots at bus stops and road junctions. Once you've signed in for the first time, your device should automatically pick up the signal whenever you're in range of one and this saves on mobile data (expensive on my phone deal!)
You can download offline maps onto Google Maps, again to save on data.
Our hotel room had a kitchenette - this was good as we got breakfast bits and snacks in the supermarket which helped our money go further.
Drink prices in bars seemed to vary widely even in the same street, although they were generally cheaper away from tourist traps like Times Square.
Tipping expectations seemed to be $1 per drink in bars, or a 15-20% on the overall bill in restaurants.
We used the Monzo card/app which charges no fees for foreign transactions and was accepted everywhere.

Hope this helps someone and let me know if you have any questions!
Did you visit the empire state tower or One WTC whilst you were there? I visited both when I was there in 2015. :D
 

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The 7-day MetroCard is staggeringly good value compared to single fares - glad that ain't changed from my 10-day visit in 2010.

Second the MTA Transit Museum, which is exvellent.

Also the USS Intrepid Air & Space Museum.
 

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Did you visit the empire state tower or One WTC whilst you were there? I visited both when I was there in 2015. :D

Actually no, we didn't go any higher than our 16th floor hotel room! The views from the ferry were brilliant though. Also the High Line linear park is highly recommended.
 

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I went to NYC last December and loved it, it's an amazing city. We didn't do the High Line but we're going back this December and will get it in then, along with the Roosevelt Island Tramway (it's an aerial tramway, more like an oversized cable car: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Island_Tramway ). I might try to fit in a spin out by rail somewhere this time, maybe from Grand Central Terminal (which itself is a must-see for any rail enthusiast) on the Hudson River line, or somewhere out of Hoboken on the other side of the Hudson.

The city is great in December purely because it looks really festive, with the tree at the Rockefeller, window displays in the stores on 5th Avenue, Macy's Christmas section, Christmas lights everywhere, and so on. I imagine the heat can get quite oppressive in the summer months.

I second the recommendation for the Staten Island Ferry and also loved Central Park. We also did the Empire State and World Trade Center 1, as the weather was favourable - well worth the experience. The walk across Brooklyn Bridge is worth it too.

We flew both ways with BA - out in Economy on an A330 and back in World Traveller Plus on a 747. Good service in both. Once there, we used an Uber-type operation called Carmel for the airport pick-up (about $58 to Manhattan including tip, all done via an app, very efficient), but used sightseeing buses and the Subway to get around after that. We used the Subway and the light rail to get us back to JFK via Jamaica station - a cheaper way of doing it (less than $10 each), and by the time you factor in traffic congestion in the taxi, not that much slower. We will use that both ways this year now we know what's what.

Food-wise, it can get very expensive, even in modest restaurants by the time you add in tips and taxes. We did it quite cheaply by staying off the beaten track, for example an Italian place called Rubirosa, in the Little Italy district, serves pizzas the size of a dustbin lid for around $25 (easily enough for two to share). On two evenings we ate at the Christmas market in Bryant Square, which had several street food places (we had philly cheese steak baguettes and fries, followed by churros, for example). Lunch was grabbed on the go from wherever was convenient, but only light lunches were required having had proper NYC bagels for breakfast. There are several bagel places, but the one we used was called Ess-a-Bagel, and was amazing, despite the queue to get in - definitely worth it and they are nothing like the UK supermarket ones! https://www.ess-a-bagel.com/
 
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You hit the jackpot with ess a bagel. Best in New York and that's saying something.
From Grand Central you can either take the Metro North line to Poughkeepsie along the Hudson River or the New Haven line to Stamford.
While at Grand Central you may want to visit the Oyster Bar, one of New York's oldest restaurants on the lower level. If nothing else you can have a pint in the saloon in the back while admiring a beautiful model of the British flagged Queen of Bermuda above the bar.
 

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My good friend from NYC - a proper Bronx born person - says the only "proper" Bagels are NYC ones , it is the water apparently.

Great city , have to deal with it with attitude. Great people and great food (plus the subway !)
 

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Correct. A bagel must be boiled then baked.
Simply baking a bagel is known as "circle bread".

And despite complaints, the NY Subway is still the way to go.
About 90% of the transit trips in America take place in the New York metro.
 

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Your post brings back happy memories of past trips to NYC - albeit a long time ago now. I've visited many of the same museums as you but also made it into the NYPD museum (think it's closed now) and got to hold a gangster's old style machine gun. I kept being amazed by all the locations I recognised from TV shows and films but a lot of Manhatten is a film set. In those days I made it up the old World Trade Centre and saw commuter jets flying past the windows at dusk - quite unnerving but then so was the height as I'm not terribly good with heights.

I loved the food and the local delis which allow you to make use of the hotel kitchenette - they're such a good idea. I used the subway quite a lot and ended up taking random rides to what were rather dangerous neighbourhoods or spookily deserted stations but I'm still here despite such adventures. I also had to use LIRR on one trip and bamboozled the ticket clerk by asking for a return ticket - I think the yanks use "round trip ticket". I was also surprised by how they do ticket checks - people put their tickets on a seat stub and the ticket inspector / guard then came through and clicked the tickets in situ. No idea if they still do that.

It's a great city and I'd love to go again but I won't be going to the USA while Trump or his ilk are in power. That's a step too far I'm afraid.
 

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It's a great city and I'd love to go again but I won't be going to the USA while Trump or his ilk are in power. That's a step too far I'm afraid.
Although NYC voted 75% for Clinton in the last election, it clearly has a different political climate to the rest of the country.
 
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