Seating layouts on UK coaching stock/long-distance MUs

[USRailFan]

I understand that open Mk1s had facing seats in both 1st and 2nd class, both for coaching stock and long-distance MUs. I guess the earliest Mk2s too? But how is it in the more recent stuff? I think Mk4s from some photos I've seen have a mix of airline-style and facing seats? But how about Mk3s and later Mk2s? And for that matter HSTs, 442s, 156s, 158s?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Mk3 Standard as built had a 72 seat layout of 16 (misaligned) bays and 8 airline seats, 4 either side of a partition sort-of in the middle of the coach (which I have a feeling may have been a partition between smoking and non-smoking originally - yes, I do get the irony of that).

Not much later it was then changed to a 76 seat layout with 10 tables and the rest airline. They stayed this way until TOCs started replacing seating.

Mk3 1st is all facing.

 

[USRailFan]

Would airline style seating in the UK be like in e.g. Germany, with seats in each half of the car facing the opposite direction, or like in e.g. Sweden, where the seats on each side of the car face the opposite way?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Would airline style seating in the UK be like in e.g. Germany, with seats in each half of the car facing the opposite direction, or like in e.g. Sweden, where the seats on each side of the car face the opposite way?

Airline style seating just means face to back, it can be in any arrangement.

The one you don't get in the UK is reversible seating, so typically half of the seats face in each direction whatever the layout.

 

[Mikey C]

I've been a GWR Mk3 carriage in which all the airline seats faced in one direction, which seemed a bit odd

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I've been a GWR Mk3 carriage in which all the airline seats faced in one direction, which seemed a bit odd

That sounds like the TGS vehicle in an HST?

 

[USRailFan]

Mk3 Standard as built had a 72 seat layout of 16 (misaligned) bays and 8 airline seats, 4 either side of a partition sort-of in the middle of the coach (which I have a feeling may have been a partition between smoking and non-smoking originally - yes, I do get the irony of that).

Not much later it was then changed to a 76 seat layout with 10 tables and the rest airline. They stayed this way until TOCs started replacing seating.

Mk3 1st is all facing.

So were HST and regular Mk3s identical from the beginning, or did the HSTs have a different layout?

 

[Journeyman]

So were HST and regular Mk3s identical from the beginning, or did the HSTs have a different layout?

The only vehicle type unique to the HSTs was the Trailer Guards' Second/Standard. All other vehicle types had the same layouts as loco-hauled vehicles.

 

[43096]

That sounds like the TGS vehicle in an HST?

No, it’s the TSD (standard class with universal access toilet). An utterly appalling coach layout.