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LNW-GW Joint

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Sydney's train network was badly disrupted on Saturday 18 August, largely because of a metal balloon which got tangled in the OHLE causing a loss of power on the core section of the electric network.
This was at Wynyard station, in the critical city tunnel section north of Central station, affecting all the city loop services and those over the Harbour Bridge to the north.
Passengers had to be evacuated on the track through the tunnel.
There was also an unconnected major IT failure yesterday on the Transport NSW systems.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...on-shut-parts-of-it-down-20180818-p4zybs.html
Passengers branded the situation a "massive system failure", a "meltdown" and an "utter shambles"

The public/political reaction was depressingly similar to that in the UK - unacceptable, minister should be fired etc etc.
Minister (not in town, as he was attending damaging bush fires elsewhere in NSW) claims the biggest investment ever in the railway is in progress.

I'm just here on holiday, and have been using the trains daily for a week or so.
It strikes me that Sydney Trains is normally an efficient, well-run network of dense local services with a cheap fares system using their multi-mode Opal card.
The stations are clean and well signed, with many heritage features preserved.
The trains (double deck 2x4-car EMUs) on the 1.5kV DC OHLE network are mature, shall we say, but very practical.
I've also been using the new light rail line in the western suburbs, built by converting the Sydney Goods Line to passenger use with on-street running to serve Central.
Nice CAF trams on a line with a Metrolink feel to it (mix of dedicated and street running).

I did a run from Sydney to Canberra and back last week, which is an inter-city service using DMUs dating from 1993 which are pretty close technically to a 3-car class 158 (but limited by the route to 120 km/h (75mph)).
But they managed to produce a choice of 3 lunch meals from the galley, and the 4-hour (330km) trip was highly scenic.
Seating is a spacious 2x2 in seats that rotate to face forwards American-style, which automatically gives decent leg room.
The last lap back into Sydney was marred by a signal failure and level crossing issue, causing loss of our fast path through the dense suburban network, so was 30 minutes down by the end.
Very like a GB 158 journey I thought, the equivalent to say Waterloo-Exeter-Paignton.
But I thought $71 (about £42) was pretty good for a normal return fare (1st class) for a journey similar in length to London to Preston or York.
Only 3tpd though, between Australia's biggest city and its capital; quiet southbound, busy northbound.
We passed 7-8 long freight trains each way on the route, a mix of containers, tanks and general wagons.
Most of these would be to/from Melbourne, which also gets day (XPT) and night passenger trains.
The route is double track for 230km to Goulborne, and single for the final 100km to Canberra.
It is electrified for the first 58km to Macarthur which is the terminus of the Sydney Trains suburban network.

Sydney is undergoing a major upgrade of its transport infrastructure, with several rail extensions under construction (light rail and metro), plus new motorway links.
The suburbs go on for ever (up to 50km in places), and the traffic is frequently grid-locked.
Such are the problems of being a fast-expanding world city.
As far as I can make out, main line passenger trains in NSW are government run (freight is in private hands).
The light rail system is run on contract by Transdev.
 
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I do not know what happened this weekend. I am out of town in Far North Queensland and news from NSW is always scarce. The cane trains and air filled with fresh molasses from the mills is very satisfying.

The DMU carsets on the Canberra service date from 1984 and are based on Swedish ICE3 equipment. Tenders are currently on call to replace them and the even older XPT (HST) sets,

While there are only 3 services daily between Sydney and Canberra in many respects we are lucky to have them. There is a competing road coach service which operates every hour and advertises a 3 hour schedule; this against the rail 4 hours. On many of the road services I doubt that the 3 hours can be maintained as they would surely get caught up in the peak hour traffic jams on Sydney roads.
 

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Used the Sydney rail system quite a bit . Quite extensive though can be slow if your far out . Fares are pretty decent i thought.
 

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Sydney's train network was badly disrupted on Saturday 18 August, largely because of a metal balloon which got tangled in the OHLE causing a loss of power on the core section of the electric network.
This was at Wynyard station, in the critical city tunnel section north of Central station, affecting all the city loop services and those over the Harbour Bridge to the north.
Passengers had to be evacuated on the track through the tunnel.
There was also an unconnected major IT failure yesterday on the Transport NSW systems.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...on-shut-parts-of-it-down-20180818-p4zybs.html


The public/political reaction was depressingly similar to that in the UK - unacceptable, minister should be fired etc etc.
Minister (not in town, as he was attending damaging bush fires elsewhere in NSW) claims the biggest investment ever in the railway is in progress.

I'm just here on holiday, and have been using the trains daily for a week or so.
It strikes me that Sydney Trains is normally an efficient, well-run network of dense local services with a cheap fares system using their multi-mode Opal card.
The stations are clean and well signed, with many heritage features preserved.
The trains (double deck 2x4-car EMUs) on the 1.5kV DC OHLE network are mature, shall we say, but very practical.
I've also been using the new light rail line in the western suburbs, built by converting the Sydney Goods Line to passenger use with on-street running to serve Central.
Nice CAF trams on a line with a Metrolink feel to it (mix of dedicated and street running).

I did a run from Sydney to Canberra and back last week, which is an inter-city service using DMUs dating from 1993 which are pretty close technically to a 3-car class 158 (but limited by the route to 120 km/h (75mph)).
But they managed to produce a choice of 3 lunch meals from the galley, and the 4-hour (330km) trip was highly scenic.
Seating is a spacious 2x2 in seats that rotate to face forwards American-style, which automatically gives decent leg room.
The last lap back into Sydney was marred by a signal failure and level crossing issue, causing loss of our fast path through the dense suburban network, so was 30 minutes down by the end.
Very like a GB 158 journey I thought, the equivalent to say Waterloo-Exeter-Paignton.
But I thought $71 (about £42) was pretty good for a normal return fare (1st class) for a journey similar in length to London to Preston or York.
Only 3tpd though, between Australia's biggest city and its capital; quiet southbound, busy northbound.
We passed 7-8 long freight trains each way on the route, a mix of containers, tanks and general wagons.
Most of these would be to/from Melbourne, which also gets day (XPT) and night passenger trains.
The route is double track for 230km to Goulborne, and single for the final 100km to Canberra.
It is electrified for the first 58km to Macarthur which is the terminus of the Sydney Trains suburban network.

Sydney is undergoing a major upgrade of its transport infrastructure, with several rail extensions under construction (light rail and metro), plus new motorway links.
The suburbs go on for ever (up to 50km in places), and the traffic is frequently grid-locked.
Such are the problems of being a fast-expanding world city.
As far as I can make out, main line passenger trains in NSW are government run (freight is in private hands).
The light rail system is run on contract by Transdev.

Thanks for that......I'm Sydney bound next year so the insight very useful. Cheers.
 

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Just to add that some Sydney station platforms have a help point/station where a dispatcher has a panel with two screens (plus phones and a microphone).
One screen shows the signalling diagram for the area, and therefore where the trains are (and can be switched to show any area in Sydney).
The other shows the individual train running information (a bit like RTT info) over the next hour or so, and links to the platform PIS.
All this is in public view and I had a demonstration by the friendly dispatcher in between trains - this was at Hornsby, a busy junction on the northern line to Newcastle.
She said it was policy to move the operational information into public view, and she made the announcements from there too (in between taking a ramp for a wheelchair passenger).
All of this information is centralised, but I didn't discover where the control centre was.
But all very impressive I thought.
Just to add to the other-worldly feeling, I passed through Cheltenham, Epping, Croydon and Lewisham on the way back to Sydney Central from Hornsby!
 
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