Assessment Day at Doncaster

[Woody1234]

Hello
I have got an assessment day coming up at Doncaster. Has anybody completed one here recently ?
Just looking for what advice people can give please about the day.
How many lines do you have to complete on the 4 dots test ?
Is it a straight fail if you miss some items on the picture memory test ?
Plus I heard about people going outside the line on the 2 hand test and still passing??
Cheers

 

[MostlyHarmless]

I assume this is for a trainee driver role?

 

[Woody1234]

I assume this is for a trainee driver role?

Yes, apologies, I should have made that clear..
Cheers Woody

 

[CapriSpeed]

Hello
I have got an assessment day coming up at Doncaster. Has anybody completed one here recently ?
Just looking for what advice people can give please about the day.
How many lines do you have to complete on the 4 dots test ?
Is it a straight fail if you miss some items on the picture memory test ?
Plus I heard about people going outside the line on the 2 hand test and still passing??
Cheers

I passed these test at Doncaster back in Jan 2017 but I believe nothing has changed since then.

I remember doing the paper tests first, the group bourbon and tea occ tests etc. You must pass these before going onto the next stage which was on the computer. The two hand test and the test where an image flashed on the screen for a few seconds and you must select what you saw. A concentration test was also done which is were you must sit and watch the screen for 30min and click when the square turns a different colour (I personally found this the most difficult as it is pure concentration for what seems like forever and gave me a headache)

Again you must pass these to be able to advance onto the MMI (I did these for northern who have the MMI on the same day, I believe northern are the only ones who do this.)

Between the paper and computer tests you do have a break whilst they mark them. Once the computer tests are complete and you are told you have passed you write down you answers for the MMI (I believe there are 6 questions.)

Then you have lunch (45min-1hour) and then you wait your turn for the MMI, for this just go by the STAR technique and you should be fine. The interview can last anywhere between 45min to 2 hours I was told, it more the quality of your answer than anything else.

Then thats the day done, you sign out and go home (I was told I passed the MMI there and then but not sure for others)

It can be a long day if theres a few of you, luckily for me it was just myself and one other. Dont be worried its actually quite an interesting day and the tests arn't there to catch you out but you do have to concentrate and make sure you dont do too many mistakes.

The facility's are old and basic and I believe you have to sort your own lunch so bear that in mind. Hope this helps and good luck.

 

[Woody1234]

I passed these test at Doncaster back in Jan 2017 but I believe nothing has changed since then.

I remember doing the paper tests first, the group bourbon and tea occ tests etc. You must pass these before going onto the next stage which was on the computer. The two hand test and the test where an image flashed on the screen for a few seconds and you must select what you saw. A concentration test was also done which is were you must sit and watch the screen for 30min and click when the square turns a different colour (I personally found this the most difficult as it is pure concentration for what seems like forever and gave me a headache)

Again you must pass these to be able to advance onto the MMI (I did these for northern who have the MMI on the same day, I believe northern are the only ones who do this.)

Between the paper and computer tests you do have a break whilst they mark them. Once the computer tests are complete and you are told you have passed you write down you answers for the MMI (I believe there are 6 questions.)

Then you have lunch (45min-1hour) and then you wait your turn for the MMI, for this just go by the STAR technique and you should be fine. The interview can last anywhere between 45min to 2 hours I was told, it more the quality of your answer than anything else.

Then thats the day done, you sign out and go home (I was told I passed the MMI there and then but not sure for others)

It can be a long day if theres a few of you, luckily for me it was just myself and one other. Dont be worried its actually quite an interesting day and the tests arn't there to catch you out but you do have to concentrate and make sure you dont do too many mistakes.

The facility's are old and basic and I believe you have to sort your own lunch so bear that in mind. Hope this helps and good luck.

Thank you very much indeed...

 

[shrek81]

Hello
I have got an assessment day coming up at Doncaster. Has anybody completed one here recently ?
Just looking for what advice people can give please about the day.
How many lines do you have to complete on the 4 dots test ?
Is it a straight fail if you miss some items on the picture memory test ?
Plus I heard about people going outside the line on the 2 hand test and still passing??
Cheers

I went outside the lines a few times but completed them quickly and still passed , seems to be a balance of speed and accuracy

You’ll know if you fail any of the paper and pen tests or the computer based tests as you be told before progressing

I practised the dots test on a PC but on the day it’s paper as already mentioned , I personally found paper easier

 

[Woody1234]

I went outside the lines a few times but completed them quickly and still passed , seems to be a balance of speed and accuracy

You’ll know if you fail any of the paper and pen tests or the computer based tests as you be told before progressing

I practised the dots test on a PC but on the day it’s paper as already mentioned , I personally found paper easier

Thanks very much...

 

[Cyclist]

For the dots test I was getting to 10 lines after a week of practice. I was printing off practice sheets using the tool on this site. The consensus on these boards appears to be that 8 perfect lines is probably ok

 

[Woody1234]

For the dots test I was getting to 10 lines after a week of practice. I was printing off practice sheets using the tool on this site. The consensus on these boards appears to be that 8 perfect lines is probably ok

Thanks very much...

 

[shrek81]

There’s also an “elevator test” on the pen and paper section where you basically count the low tones and ignore the high tones to establish what floor you are on , the first tone is always low to denote the first floor , count every low tone and to establish what “floor” you finish on , its straight forward but just be wary of the air con unit beeping as well during the test

 

[Woody1234]

There’s also an “elevator test” on the pen and paper section where you basically count the low tones and ignore the high tones to establish what floor you are on , the first tone is always low to denote the first floor , count every low tone and to establish what “floor” you finish on , its straight forward but just be wary of the air con unit beeping as well during the test

Thanks very much for that, I wasn't aware of this test... Cheers again

 

[Vertigo]

There’s also an “elevator test” on the pen and paper section where you basically count the low tones and ignore the high tones to establish what floor you are on , the first tone is always low to denote the first floor , count every low tone and to establish what “floor” you finish on , its straight forward but just be wary of the air con unit beeping as well during the test

Hi, am I right in thinking basically, just count the low tones nothing more. There is no subtracting floors with high tones?

 

[Woody1234]

Can anybody confirm please what the TEA-OCC test is like as I'm being told conflicting versions. My understanding is having a list of numbers with different symbols at the side which represent a plumber, restaurant, shop etc and then being told to find all the plumbers with the number 1234. If this is the case do people just search for the plumber symbol first and then confirm if it's the Correct number ???
Also do you work left to right or top to bottom.
Is it achievable to finish or is it like the DOT test.
Cheers

 

[MostlyHarmless]

Hi, am I right in thinking basically, just count the low tones nothing more. There is no subtracting floors with high tones?

Yep... just count the low tones and ignore everything else

 

[Highlandspring]

I think there are probably different versions of the TEA-OCC. I’ve never sat a drivers assemssment but the one previously used for signallers assessments involved searching for and marking as many of particular symbol as you could find on a large (slightly bigger than A3 size) map covered in dozens and dozens of different symbols while counting low tones and ignoring high tones. The test culminated in a round where you were still looking for and marking a particular symbol but this time low tones indicated passing a floor in a lift and high tones indicated a change in direction. That meant doing a bit of metal arithmetic to add and subtract floors and the tones were much faster. It was extremely stressful!

 

[Vertigo]

Yep... just count the low tones and ignore everything else

Phew! Thanks for putting my mind to rest. I read somewhere about low tones are down a floor and high up a floor. And the whole time searching the book you where adding and subtracting floors

 

[Ikiki]

Can anybody confirm please what the TEA-OCC test is like as I'm being told conflicting versions. My understanding is having a list of numbers with different symbols at the side which represent a plumber, restaurant, shop etc and then being told to find all the plumbers with the number 1234. If this is the case do people just search for the plumber symbol first and then confirm if it's the Correct number ???
Also do you work left to right or top to bottom.
Is it achievable to finish or is it like the DOT test.
Cheers

From memory you’re not expected to finish, but I’m sure it’s acheavable.

 

[MostlyHarmless]

Can anybody confirm please what the TEA-OCC test is like as I'm being told conflicting versions. My understanding is having a list of numbers with different symbols at the side which represent a plumber, restaurant, shop etc and then being told to find all the plumbers with the number 1234. If this is the case do people just search for the plumber symbol first and then confirm if it's the Correct number ???
Also do you work left to right or top to bottom.
Is it achievable to finish or is it like the DOT test.
Cheers

Pinched from a another post.....

The tones/Phonebook Test (TEA-Occ) is split into 3 parts.

Part 1 involves you listening to an audio recording of two different tones playing at random.
Your job is to count all the low tones, which play amongst distracting high tones.

Part 2 involves you looking through a Phonebook-like list to find entries with four pairs of certain symbols. The symbols are given to you on a card before the test.

Part 3 involves the same as Part 2, but this time simultaneously counting tones. (There’s only one tone in this part, don’t panic)
At certain intervals, you’ll be asked to stop looking at the Phonebook, and write down how many tones you’ve counted.

You have to do as many as you can in the time allocated. Not sure it's achievable to complete them all but I'm pretty certain I didn't!

 

[Woody1234]

Pinched from a another post.....

The tones/Phonebook Test (TEA-Occ) is split into 3 parts.

Part 1 involves you listening to an audio recording of two different tones playing at random.
Your job is to count all the low tones, which play amongst distracting high tones.

Part 2 involves you looking through a Phonebook-like list to find entries with four pairs of certain symbols. The symbols are given to you on a card before the test.

Part 3 involves the same as Part 2, but this time simultaneously counting tones. (There’s only one tone in this part, don’t panic)
At certain intervals, you’ll be asked to stop looking at the Phonebook, and write down how many tones you’ve counted.

You have to do as many as you can in the time allocated. Not sure it's achievable to complete them all but I'm pretty certain I didn't!

Great stuff, thankyou, did you just concentrate on finding the pairs and not get distracted looking through the numbers which will be time consuming..

 

[shrek81]

Hi, am I right in thinking basically, just count the low tones nothing more. There is no subtracting floors with high tones?

Count the low tones ignore the high , the high are just there to distract you so if you hear low low high low high low low then youre in the 5th floor , hooe thst makes sense .

 

[Vertigo]

Count the low tones ignore the high , the high are just there to distract you so if you hear low low high low high low low then youre in the 5th floor , hooe thst makes sense .

Thanks, just as I had previously understood it, just wanted to check so no surprises on the day. Basically the whole lift scenario is irrelevant. Just count the lows.

 

[MostlyHarmless]

Great stuff, thankyou, did you just concentrate on finding the pairs and not get distracted looking through the numbers which will be time consuming..

Pretty much, although I looked for the required trade in the phonebook entry too - e.g. Johns Plumbing Services, because some of them didn't (e.g. Daves Services) and I wasn't sure whether everyone in the phonebook was a plumber (or restaurant in the other test). I'm still not sure tbh and maybe someone can clarify - or better still ask the person invigilating the test. Either way I passed it and really it wasn't that difficult

 

[Vertigo]

Just been practising for the cables and dials test. Pretty sure I know what it involves with the four dials and priority. My question is where does the cables part come in to it?

 

[Cyclist]

Pretty much, although I looked for the required trade in the phonebook entry too - e.g. Johns Plumbing Services, because some of them didn't (e.g. Daves Services) and I wasn't sure whether everyone in the phonebook was a plumber (or restaurant in the other test). I'm still not sure tbh and maybe someone can clarify - or better still ask the person invigilating the test. Either way I passed it and really it wasn't that difficult

You literally just look at the symbols and nothing else. Don't even look at the phone numbers or company names. They are all the same profession.
I found this part of tea-occ and this test to be probably the easiest of all the tests the OPC does.

 

[Woody1234]

Anybody with knowledge on the GLOP test ?

 

[Cyclist]

Just been practising for the cables and dials test. Pretty sure I know what it involves with the four dials and priority. My question is where does the cables part come in to it?

Each dial is the status of a different cable.

 

[Vertigo]

Each dial is the status of a different cable.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Indy3995]

Anybody with knowledge on the GLOP test ?

Glop is an information remembering test.
You will listen to a recording of the information and you can read it at the same time from a sheet. You will then have a period of time to write notes on the information you have heard (you still have the info sheet whilst making notes).
The sheet and notes are then collected or turned face down and you will answer multiple choice question on the info you have tried to remember.

 

[Woody1234]

Glop is an information remembering test.
You will listen to a recording of the information and you can read it at the same time from a sheet. You will then have a period of time to write notes on the information you have heard (you still have the info sheet whilst making notes).
The sheet and notes are then collected or turned face down and you will answer multiple choice question on the info you have tried to remember.

Thanks very much for that...

 

[Woody1234]

Not looking forward to that part !!!!