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Why is there now an obsession with re-nationalisation?

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One issue causing a resurge for support for Nationalisation is probably the continual levels of industrial unrest.

I can remember during the 1980's and 1990's, a rail strike used to be a big news storey with footage of parks being turned into temporary car parks and interviews on the news. Nowadays its a more or less permanent several years of discontent, so much so that it barely features in the news.

I don't recall it ever being this bad under BR.
 
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One issue causing a resurge for support for Nationalisation is probably the continual levels of industrial unrest.

I can remember during the 1980's and 1990's, a rail strike used to be a big news storey with footage of parks being turned into temporary car parks and interviews on the news. Nowadays its a more or less permanent several years of discontent, so much so that it barely features in the news.

I don't recall it ever being this bad under BR.
1955 ASLEF strike?
The year delay in introducing the Bed-Pan electrification?
The 'two driver' dispute holding up HST testing?
etc.
 

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1955 ASLEF strike?
The year delay in introducing the Bed-Pan electrification?
The 'two driver' dispute holding up HST testing?
etc.

With the exception of the ASLEF strike (which was before my time), the others weren't actually strikes that stopped the service though.
 

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With the exception of the ASLEF strike (which was before my time), the others weren't actually strikes that stopped the service though.


Quite. It does not make an argument convincing when examples in support of it which no-one under the age of 80 will remember have to be dredged up in support of it.
 

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The UK actually got more financial aid than anyone else. It's just that we chose to spend ours on other things than infrastructure investment. - specifically, building the welfare state.

We also wasted a huuuuuge amount of money in carrying on with steam traction, even designing and building locomotives that had - in some cases - a working life of five years - when we should have been investing in modern diesels and electrics. Steam workshops churned out hundreds of diesels not fit for their purpose and electrification - like now - was carried out in a piecemeal way wasting more £millions.
 

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With the exception of the ASLEF strike (which was before my time), the others weren't actually strikes that stopped the service though.

The ASLEF "flexible" rostering strike of 1982 (?) , did stop the network - though there were areas where trains continued to run in small numbers.

Dismissals letters were arranged for all strikers - and there was a very real chance this could have been a self imposed mega Beeching , - but the unions realised the situation and went back to work. The impact of tis and other "external" Thatcher era strikes , massacred the revenue figures and explained the tightness of everything for a while.
 

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The ASLEF "flexible" rostering strike of 1982 (?) , did stop the network - though there were areas where trains continued to run in small numbers.

Dismissals letters were arranged for all strikers - and there was a very real chance this could have been a self imposed mega Beeching , - but the unions realised the situation and went back to work. The impact of tis and other "external" Thatcher era strikes , massacred the revenue figures and explained the tightness of everything for a while.

I must admit, I was a child in 1982, so not particularly aware of current affairs (I had assumed the earlier reference to the ASLEF strike was to the 1955 one).

I think a lot depends on how long such things go on for without sign of resolution.
 

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I must admit, I was a child in 1982, so not particularly aware of current affairs (I had assumed the earlier reference to the ASLEF strike was to the 1955 one).

I think a lot depends on how long such things go on for without sign of resolution.

About 3 weeks in this case ...it destroyed traffic levels , especially for Freightliner and Inter City as there were 2 x 24 hr strikes per week + other local ones. Dreadful period.

Course , when they "accepted" , the work remits were fully accepted and the railway ran better - but the economic damage was substantial. I recall sympathetic train crew at Ipswich , saying that this had lost them their yearned for electrification. That goodness it did not.

Do not recall any issues after this -change was accepted pretty easily , if managed humanely and properly.
 

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About 3 weeks in this case ...it destroyed traffic levels , especially for Freightliner and Inter City as there were 2 x 24 hr strikes per week + other local ones. Dreadful period.

Course , when they "accepted" , the work remits were fully accepted and the railway ran better - but the economic damage was substantial. I recall sympathetic train crew at Ipswich , saying that this had lost them their yearned for electrification. That goodness it did not.

Do not recall any issues after this -change was accepted pretty easily , if managed humanely and properly.
The ASLEF "flexible" rostering strike of 1982 (?) , did stop the network - though there were areas where trains continued to run in small numbers.

Dismissals letters were arranged for all strikers - and there was a very real chance this could have been a self imposed mega Beeching , - but the unions realised the situation and went back to work. The impact of tis and other "external" Thatcher era strikes , massacred the revenue figures and explained the tightness of everything for a while.
and of course, the reason why that strike was so long and bitter was nothing to do with Government policy or Management intransigence was it?
At the end of the day, management tried to impose new working practices and refused to negotiate... at the orders of their Government paymasters... we all remember how anti-Union and anti-working man the Thatcher Government of the day was. Flexible Rostering was, and still is, a way a company can destroy working conditions, many of which have been hard fought for over a number of years... and also usually results in a lower wage bill for the company.. meaning that it's employees have to work longer hrs to earn the same money... ie a pay cut.

By all means, claim that the strikes damaged the industry, but don't lay the blame entirely at the feet of the Unions.

In any case, at least back then the unions were honest about why they went on strike... remember the strikes on Southern last year? They were about the safety of DOO apparently.... yet as soon as a huge pay rise was dangled in front of them, the union decided that DOO wasn't unsafe after all!
 

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and of course, the reason why that strike was so long and bitter was nothing to do with Government policy or Management intransigence was it?
At the end of the day, management tried to impose new working practices and refused to negotiate... at the orders of their Government paymasters... we all remember how anti-Union and anti-working man the Thatcher Government of the day was. Flexible Rostering was, and still is, a way a company can destroy working conditions, many of which have been hard fought for over a number of years... and also usually results in a lower wage bill for the company.. meaning that it's employees have to work longer hrs to earn the same money... ie a pay cut.

By all means, claim that the strikes damaged the industry, but don't lay the blame entirely at the feet of the Unions.

In any case, at least back then the unions were honest about why they went on strike... remember the strikes on Southern last year? They were about the safety of DOO apparently.... yet as soon as a huge pay rise was dangled in front of them, the union decided that DOO wasn't unsafe after all!
The history of ASLEF book (Driven by ideals) gives a different slant on the 1982 strikes and as someone who lost a lot of money from being part of the 2 day strikes from February through to Summer and then the full 2 week strike that followed its a bitter pill to swallow
 

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The fundamental problem of privatisation is that it has split into pieces a complex system that needs to be integrated. As a result, different parts of the rail industry are kept in 'silos'. Whilst these silos interact, this only works when there is a steady-state in place. So for instance, the previous 'no growth' Northern franchise didn't envisage major changes and while this was a long-term problem, it did mean the railway functioned OK on a day-to-day basis, albeit with rising overcrowding. Similarly, many NR investment projects have been successfully carried, but these tend to be when NR doesn't need extensive cooperation with the rest of the industry e.g. station rebuilds - Reading, new Street etc.

Problems start when there needs to be significant change requiring coordination between NR, train operators, regulatory bodies and government. It seems that time and again the industry falls down at this point and it's an inherent problem given the fragmented structure imposed on the railway.
 

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and of course, the reason why that strike was so long and bitter was nothing to do with Government policy or Management intransigence was it?
At the end of the day, management tried to impose new working practices and refused to negotiate... at the orders of their Government paymasters... we all remember how anti-Union and anti-working man the Thatcher Government of the day was. Flexible Rostering was, and still is, a way a company can destroy working conditions, many of which have been hard fought for over a number of years... and also usually results in a lower wage bill for the company.. meaning that it's employees have to work longer hrs to earn the same money... ie a pay cut.

By all means, claim that the strikes damaged the industry, but don't lay the blame entirely at the feet of the Unions.

In any case, at least back then the unions were honest about why they went on strike... remember the strikes on Southern last year? They were about the safety of DOO apparently.... yet as soon as a huge pay rise was dangled in front of them, the union decided that DOO wasn't unsafe after all!

Wish I had never mentioned now , to get a response like that.
 

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The fundamental problem of privatisation is that it has split into pieces a complex system that needs to be integrated. As a result, different parts of the rail industry are kept in 'silos'. Whilst these silos interact, this only works when there is a steady-state in place. So for instance, the previous 'no growth' Northern franchise didn't envisage major changes and while this was a long-term problem, it did mean the railway functioned OK on a day-to-day basis, albeit with rising overcrowding. Similarly, many NR investment projects have been successfully carried, but these tend to be when NR doesn't need extensive cooperation with the rest of the industry e.g. station rebuilds - Reading, new Street etc.

Problems start when there needs to be significant change requiring coordination between NR, train operators, regulatory bodies and government. It seems that time and again the industry falls down at this point and it's an inherent problem given the fragmented structure imposed on the railway.

Good point , the input from Train Operators is (or was) , quite varied. Some outstanding , others less "interested" - dependant often on how much staff they had to engage.
 

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Shall we say "there are those who have done , and those who comment"
instead of snide comments how about "educating" me on where I am wrong? I'm not even sure of what you disagree with about my post.

Is it that flexible rostering attacks working conditions and pay? {pro union statement}
Or is it the bit about the southern trains DOO strikes? {anti union} and where is that factually incorrect? there were strikes over DOO operation FACT the dispute was settled after southern offered a pay deal worth in the region of 27% FACT drivers decided to accept DOO {therefore by implication accepting that DOO is safe} FACT
 

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instead of snide comments how about "educating" me on where I am wrong? I'm not even sure of what you disagree with about my post.

Is it that flexible rostering attacks working conditions and pay? {pro union statement}
Or is it the bit about the southern trains DOO strikes? {anti union} and where is that factually incorrect? there were strikes over DOO operation FACT the dispute was settled after southern offered a pay deal worth in the region of 27% FACT drivers decided to accept DOO {therefore by implication accepting that DOO is safe} FACT

Not worth the debate on 1982 ....OK ?
 

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Not worth the debate on 1982 ....OK ?
well considering that this thread is about re-nationalisation and you posted the original comment as a reason why railways shouldn't be re-nationalised I, personally, think it is worth a debate... but of course, like many people with entrenched views on nationalisation or unions, you believe that only you have the true gospel message, and any dissenting voices should be shut down and silenced.

Sorry but life don't work like that... so where am I wrong in stating that flexible rostering was an attack on wages and conditions?
 

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well considering that this thread is about re-nationalisation and you posted the original comment as a reason why railways shouldn't be re-nationalised I, personally, think it is worth a debate... but of course, like many people with entrenched views on nationalisation or unions, you believe that only you have the true gospel message, and any dissenting voices should be shut down and silenced.

Sorry but life don't work like that... so where am I wrong in stating that flexible rostering was an attack on wages and conditions?

Listen - 1982 was noted as a significant BR era strike - they nearly signed a death pledge , no-one lost money through the eventual agreement (they actually got some varied days with shifts from 6 to 9 hours with at least one extra day off every 14 -21 days) - better spread of shifts with some amelioration of antisocial booking on
 

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Listen - 1982 was noted as a significant BR era strike - they nearly signed a death pledge , no-one lost money through the eventual agreement (they actually got some varied days with shifts from 6 to 9 hours with at least one extra day off every 14 -21 days) - better spread of shifts with some amelioration of antisocial booking on
My experience of the introduction of flexible rostering has always and I mean ALWAYS involved consolidation of wage rates, with a resultant net loss of earnings meaning workers have to work harder and longer to earn the same money as before.

My point was that at least in 1982- under a nationalised industry- the union was more honest about the reasons for it's strike action, unlike the southern dispute... where the union claimed it was over safety fears- but as soon as they were offered a huge pay rise by any standards then suddenly there were no longer any safety concerns!
 

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About 3 weeks in this case ...it destroyed traffic levels , especially for Freightliner and Inter City as there were 2 x 24 hr strikes per week + other local ones. Dreadful period.

Course , when they "accepted" , the work remits were fully accepted and the railway ran better - but the economic damage was substantial. I recall sympathetic train crew at Ipswich , saying that this had lost them their yearned for electrification. That goodness it did not.

Do not recall any issues after this -change was accepted pretty easily , if managed humanely and properly.

Given the current state of affairs with strikes seemingly targeting discretionary travel, the well publicised timetable issues and never ending weekend engineering works, I'm concerned that regional rail travel in the North will face similar long term damage.
 

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where the union claimed it was over safety fears- but as soon as they were offered a huge pay rise by any standards then suddenly there were no longer any safety concerns!

Other than the fact that there were still a whole raft of safety and customer service related points (improved DO cameras, various guarantees about OBSs including PTS training, etc) in the final settlement, it wasn't just a cash bung (covering the previous year's agreement and up until 2020)
 

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Other than the fact that there were still a whole raft of safety and customer service related points (improved DO cameras, various guarantees about OBSs including PTS training, etc) in the final settlement, it wasn't just a cash bung (covering the previous year's agreement and up until 2020)
but tbf, whatever the ins and outs of the agreement what did joe public see? Union goes on strike over "safety fears", Union gets offered huge pay increase, strikes over! and I will be honest, whilst working in the bus industry, when it comes to the rail industry I am just a member of Joe Public...
 

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We also wasted a huuuuuge amount of money in carrying on with steam traction, even designing and building locomotives that had - in some cases - a working life of five years - when we should have been investing in modern diesels and electrics. Steam workshops churned out hundreds of diesels not fit for their purpose and electrification - like now - was carried out in a piecemeal way wasting more £millions.
I don't think that is a fair representation of the position. As I understand it the Government was worried about foreign exchange and therefore wanted the railways to be powered by coal as far as possible. At the same time the railway was suffering from the national labour shortage and wanted to do anything it could afford to do to cut staffing. It was also required by the government to buy almost anything any (private enterprise) loco building company wanted to offer in the form of a trial batch of diesels to prop them up - with the results we are all too familiar with. It tends to be forgotten that there were massive railway job cuts through the 1940s, 50s and 60s, mostly not resulting in disruption either.
I think that a national (ised) railway had bigger people running it and also on the union side - and they were better trained/ experienced and also less reckless (probably the wrong word - maybe the structures were better at absorbing local shocks) so there was less grief overall.

The fundamental problem of privatisation is that it has split into pieces a complex system that needs to be integrated. As a result, different parts of the rail industry are kept in 'silos'. Whilst these silos interact, this only works when there is a steady-state in place. So for instance, the previous 'no growth' Northern franchise didn't envisage major changes and while this was a long-term problem, it did mean the railway functioned OK on a day-to-day basis, albeit with rising overcrowding. Similarly, many NR investment projects have been successfully carried, but these tend to be when NR doesn't need extensive cooperation with the rest of the industry e.g. station rebuilds - Reading, new Street etc.

Problems start when there needs to be significant change requiring coordination between NR, train operators, regulatory bodies and government. It seems that time and again the industry falls down at this point and it's an inherent problem given the fragmented structure imposed on the railway.
... and of the fact that we have hundreds of companies whose directors are legally required to put their shareholders' interests first, so that any need to adapt to circumstances leads to re-reading the contracts and lawyers at dawn. The actual deliverable (reliable public transport) doesn't get a look in!
Almost every suggestion here for an improvement that obviously needs doing (no matter how straightforward) attracts howls of derision because we are told that the legal infrastructure of franchises won't allow it for some reason or other... then the enthusiasts for the status quo tell us that of course it can adapt if needed (but of course it can't really.)
 
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How have the ground rules changed, except as a result of privatisation itself ? And if the ground rules have changed, how does this excuse the lack of practical improvement for many passengers post-privatisation ?

For the avoidance of doubt, there is no such thing as a completely privatised railway in the UK at the moment. You should realise this so your continual banging on about the perceived disadvantages of the ’privatised’ railway seems to me to be more about trying to make a political point than in contributing in any material manner to an informed debate on how the railway business should develop in the future.

I assume that you are well aware that the way the railways are governed/directed/funded since the 2003 Railways Act has been through several changes. What now exists bears little relationship to the structure as originally conceived which lasted only about three years. The following twenty years have seen Government involved more and more in the minutiae of railway operation.

A short summary of the main changes - a history lesson if you like. For simplicity I discuss only the passenger railway.

Original arrangement.
Franchises were let by the Office for Passenger Rail Franchising (OPRAF), the bids were accepted on the basis of lowest subsidy/highest premium. There were no specifications for train operation and rolling stock except that the timetable had be broadly the same as that operated by BR in the same area. In practice in order to increase income most of the franchisees increased train frequencies using spare capacity in existing diagrams and/or tried to break into other areas where it was felt a profitable market existed. All these changes could be made with reference to the DfT as long as the franchisee’s global subsidy limits were not exceeded or the premium payable was reduced.
Infrastructure was controlled by Railtrack a publicly listed company and the Office of the Rail Regulator (ORR) was intended to act as the TOC’s champion in their dealings with the monopoly supplier Railtrack and adjudicate on track access.

Strategic Rail Authority (SRA)
Following Labour’s election to form the Government in 1997 it was clear that because of ideological reasons it could not allow the structure set up by the previous Government to continue unchanged - even before the new structures could properly bed in. In 1997 it set up the SRA, firstly in Shadow form which was then given legal basis by the Transport Act 2000. It took over OPRAF’s functions in awarding and ensuring compliance with the franchise contracts.
After some dalliance with the concepts of longer franchises to attract more private capital into the infrastructure (Chiltern being the only result of this phase) the second round of franchise awards became more prescriptive because of perceived weaknesses in the services that some franchisees were offering compared to what the SRA thought it was buying. Details included service frequencies to be offered, times of first and last trains, cleanliness and so on.

Post-Hatfield
Following the Hatfield crash it became clear that Railtrack needed more finance and that the settlement agreed with the Rail Regulator for Control Period 2 was not sufficient. Hatfield had cost some £500m for repairs and replacing miles of rail and £500m for compensation to the TOCs for delays. So in April 2001 the government agreed with Railtrack to bring forward £1.5bn from Control Period 3 (which would have run from April 2006). This money was not forthcoming as the government could not find a way of transferring it without it ending up on the Public Sector Borrowing Requirement (PSBR, now called the Budget Deficit). The then Chancellor of the Exchequer would not countenance an increase in the PSBR so this decision contributed to the funding shortfall which led to Railtrack being put into administration.

The Government was now committed to pumping much more money into Network Rail than the Treasury had planned for and was looking for ways to limit its exposure. By this time (2002/3) it was clear that the increase in passenger numbers seen since 1994/5 was going to continue and not fade away as such increases so often did under BR. (This is not meant as a criticism - it is simply a statement of what had happened). As a result the Government saw an opportunity to raise more money from both the passengers and the TOCs and two things happened:
  • in 2004 the regulated fare cap was changed from RPI-1% to RPI+1%.
  • for future franchises a pre-determined profile for the increase in the premium payments was incorporated into the Invitation to Tender. For example the East Coast ITT required a Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) of 8.7% for the franchise starting in May 2005 - this was still in the period when Gordon Brown had banished ‘boom and bust’. If the bidders did not follow the requirements the bid would be deemed ’non-compliant’ and rejected. Even as seen then, the CAGR appeared to be very brave. The main point is, though, that it was the government, not the bidder, determining up to 10 years in advance, what premiums should be paid.
New trains and timetables
first Great Western started to consider a replacement for the HSTs in the early 2000s. The SRA considered that this activity properly belonged in its area of interest as it thought the concept could be used on other routes and stopped fGW from pursuing its work with the ROSCOs. After the SRA was wound up a year or so later the activities transferred to the DfT which in June 2005 announced what it called the HST2 programme. This morphed into the IEP.
In 2008 Stuart Baker of the DfT presented the IEP to a meeting of GW management in Swindon. Based on a notional timetable and the DfT’s analysis of train loadings a service pattern was unveiled which, among other things, called for a 5+5 trains from Paddington to split at Swindon to serve different destinations. The sets would be re-joined at Swindon for the leg back to Paddington. I am reliably informed that questions were asked along the lines of what would happen if one of the two in-bound parts were to be late. Would train crew be held spare at Swindon so that both parts could be run independently to Paddington or would the first part of the train to arrive be held for 10, 15, 20 minutes or whatever until the second part arrived. Apparently no clear answer was given.
In 2011 I attended an IMechE meeting where I first heard Mr Baker talking about the non-stop Bristol Parkway - Paddington services. The DfT was now writing the timetables - not the TOC.

So we now have a situation where the IEP train fleet:
  • is sized to service a notional timetable drawn up in 2007/8 but now, 10 years later, has to operate a real one with the actual flows
  • is issued to the TOC which pays for them on a schedule agreed between Agility Trains and the DfT
  • has to get the trains back to the pre-planned maintenance depot at the end of the diagram to meet the terms of the maintenance contract, agreed between the DfT and Agility Trains.
All this without significant participation of the people actually operating the trains.

Because of issues in gaining approvals for the first trains built after 1995/6 to operate on Railtrack/Network Rail’s infrastructure and because of the DfT’s spat with the ROSCOs (although they are creatures of the DfT) the DfT took over the specification and procurement - but not the funding - of new trains.
One fleet was the IEP the other the Class 700. In the latter case the Department issued the invitation to tender for the trains in November 2008, estimating that it would take around 16 months to complete the procurement and award the contract. In fact it took over four and a half years, with the Department finally awarding the contract in June 2013. It had, in fact, already selected the trains and builder two years earlier in June 2011. If the DfT had bought the trains outright, or if it had left the procurement to a ROSCO, then the two extra years development might have meant that the Moving Average of the Miles per Technical Incident would by now be better than 6342 - about the level reached by a Pacer.

One of the people closely involved with the new trains, Clarence Yard whose contributions I value, posts in these Forums and wrote in this post :

… The network and services on it are a political construction where political considerations, such as service frequency or seats from particular locations, are required to be provided and if they are not too expensive, they get baked into the franchise, concession or DA.

SNIP

… But that’s not how we currently decide services - the DfT specifies, the TOC provides (even if it thinks it’s daft) and the DfT have to pay for it, frequently though the nose because we TOCs have much better lawyers than they do when it comes to the franchise agreement.

By no stretch of the imagination can this be called a privatised railway. I am not surprised that you find it difficult to identify the benefits of privatisation.
 
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I am tied between the argument to Privatise or Nationalise. The network needs a shake-up but BR was no better at funding or investment and the current network is much better than it was in BR. The problem is a solution is needed to solve Britains railway nightmare. Should BR come back?
 

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No, because it wouldn't help. The substantial reason for just about any problem the Railway endures is down to the very part/s of it that ARE nationalised - whether that be Network Rail or interference with them and various aspects of the TOCs' activities by the Government. Electrification hold-ups - caused by government funding fickleties coupled with Network Rail ineptitude; not by the TOCs. Rolling stock cascade shortages - ditto. And so on.

There are aspects of the Private railway that I would change were it up to me; there is too much fragmentation; too much parochial activity in the name of revenue allocation (like, changes to routing validity solely to shift revenue between TOCs); and non-co-operation in other areas (like refusal by one TOC's booking office to resolve a ticket matter issued by another TOC) and so on. The Railway should be mandatorily a seamless thing to the consumer. On the other hand, the Private TOCs have demonstrated far more ability to conjure up promotional schemes than I recall BR doing and I wouldn't want to see the back of that; it took a Private TOC to introduce true cooked food at weekends (like the Breakfast), for example.
 

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I don't know if nationalisation is the best approach as the DfT already has a say in the running of our railways by setting franchise terms etc, it isn't any better...

The 4 main parties are the TOCs, Network Rail, the minister of Transport & the DfT and the unions. They seem to be all pointing the finger at each other, passing the buck...

Some of the above parties are causing problems in some franchises such as the DfT & TOC in the TSGN and Northern franchises for their poor management and Network Rail in the SW franchise for the infrastructure problems hampering SWR's performance.

If all parties sat down and willing to work together and resolve issues, agree more over things then perhaps the railways could be run better.

If all parties, apart from the unions, are all brought under a single umbrella under the DfT, then politcially this could be tricky as a Tory minister of Transport would be less keen running "British Rail" so a better bet is to have a Labour minister of Transport but the railways didn't get nationalised under Labour last time?!

I could think of possible two solutions are: carry on with things as they are but disband Network Rail and replace with another body, as happened with Railtrack. Unpopular this may be, the new body could be given to a foreign national rail operator or their equivalent of Network Rail, only if that country has an excellent record managing railways such as Japan for example.

The other is to nationalise everything under a new "British Rail", however instead of the DfT, this should go to a foreign national rail operator such as JR or Abellio (that Abellio could run the whole network not just East Anglia for example). The conditions could be that it should be branded as all "British Rail" with no sign of the foreign operator's branding and the DfT will still have a say and our government will get paid by instead of our fare payments leaving the country to bolster their railway infrastructure abroad. This could be like a one large franchise for the whole country instead of the multiple regional franchises we have at present.

This may sound traitorous, other than giving the world railways and the remarkable history of the railways contributing to industrialisation in the past, but our country really hasn't got a good record of running the railways because of corporate greed, unaccountability, slower to get things done etc. When it was nationalised British Rail before, some people have mentioned it was pretty run down and neglected elsewhere outside Network South East. Other countries with well run railways could be given a chance to bring in a new "British Rail" and show us what we're doing wrong?

Any better ideas?
 
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