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Difficult to tell. I know some of Perth's Scania E400s are going to Aberhill. The 5 (4 AH, 1 PH) 39s should be Double Decker, 3 (all AH) 39As should be single decker, if that helps at all. @GaryMcEwan

No, not confused at all with the 3 buses off the 16 - I was only going by terms of Perth and Arbroath depots, hence why I never mentioned the X53. However, unless I've missed something, surely the 1 bus off the X53 allows for the X54 extension to Ninewells?

Nope, X54 has been speedy up, X53 bit between Kirkcaldy and Glenrothes has not been replaced so free up the bus/coaches to operate the bus to Kingoodie has been moved over to the 39A, while the other four buses which were used on the X53 have been moved over to the X54 to fully replace the route from Glenrothes to Ninewells.

Confusing! :D
 
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Actually were none the wiser about the changes at the end of the month for the Angus tenders...
 

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Actually were none the wiser about the changes at the end of the month for the Angus tenders...
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/servi...rticle?SituationId=ID-07/05/2018-09:00:46:481

Following the award of new Angus Council contracts, we will be introducing new services within Arbroath. These are:


  • Service 37: Arbroath - Letham Grange
  • Service 42: Arbroath Sunday morning service
  • Service 46: Arbroath bus station - Aikman Road
  • Service 49: Arbroath bus station - Hospitalfield


In addition to these new service, the following changes will also be made:

  • Service 44 between Cliffburn and Timmergreens will be reintroduced to run in the evenings and on Sundays.
  • A revised timetable will be introduced on service 43 between Arbroath bus station and Kirkton; some early morning journeys will be withdrawn and evening & Sunday journeys introduced.
  • Sunday evening journeys on service 73B between Dundee city centre and Monifieth will no longer be operated by Stagecoach and will now be run by another operator.
  • We will no longer run services 130 and A11. Service 130 has been withdrawn, and service A11 (school service) will be run by another operator.
  • Late afternoon journeys on Montrose service 47, from 1550 to 1710, will run 10 minutes later, to better suit children travelling from Montrose Academy.


A new Arbroath Town services leaflet and Service 47 timetable will be available in mid May.



New Arbroath town map from Monday 28 May.
 
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Nope, X54 has been speedy up, X53 bit between Kirkcaldy and Glenrothes has not been replaced so free up the bus/coaches to operate the bus to Kingoodie has been moved over to the 39A, while the other four buses which were used on the X53 have been moved over to the X54 to fully replace the route from Glenrothes to Ninewells.

Confusing! :D
Thanks for clearing that up. Does anyone know, or can haunt a guess at, where the 0645 X7 will go on arrival into Dundee? - This will also do the 1715 39 back to Perth I assume.

The later LF X7 will go onto 75s, then do the 1720 X7 back to Perth.
 

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https://www.stagecoachbus.com/servi...rticle?SituationId=ID-07/05/2018-09:00:46:481

Timetable changes in Angus area from Monday 28 May07 May 2018 to 30 Jun 2018

Following the award of new Angus Council contracts, we will be introducing new services within Arbroath. These are:
  • Service 37: Arbroath - Letham Grange
  • Service 42: Arbroath Sunday morning service
  • Service 46: Arbroath bus station - Aikman Road
  • Service 49: Arbroath bus station - Hospitalfield
In addition to these new service, the following changes will also be made:

  • Service 44 between Cliffburn and Timmergreens will be reintroduced to run in the evenings and on Sundays.
  • A revised timetable will be introduced on service 43 between Arbroath bus station and Kirkton; some early morning journeys will be withdrawn and evening & Sunday journeys introduced.
  • Sunday evening journeys on service 73B between Dundee city centre and Monifieth will no longer be operated by Stagecoach and will now be run by another operator.
  • We will no longer run services 130 and A11. Service 130 has been withdrawn, and service A11 (school service) will be run by another operator.
  • Late afternoon journeys on Montrose service 47, from 1550 to 1710, will run 10 minutes later, to better suit children travelling from Montrose Academy.

A new Arbroath Town services leaflet and Service 47 timetable will be available in mid May.

New Arbroath town map from Monday 28 May.

Cheers, actually what about the other companies?
 

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TeeJay Travel have won the AM and some PM 43s (Stagecoach will continue to operate the PM ones, commercially, I assume) and the A11 school contract.
Xplore Dundee has won the Sunday 73B.

I think that's largely it? Anything not mentioned, will remain the same, for example the 34, 36/50 and 23/24/25/27.
 

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TeeJay Travel have won the AM and some PM 43s (Stagecoach will continue to operate the PM ones, commercially, I assume) and the A11 school contract.
Xplore Dundee has won the Sunday 73B.

I think that's largely it? Anything not mentioned, will remain the same, for example the 34, 36/50 and 23/24/25/27.

I did hear some of the "once a day per week runs" are all coming off? I thought there were changes on the 31/51 and or a change of operator.
 

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Yes, but can't remember service numbers off the top of my head - 116/117 at a guess?

Moffat & Williamson have got the 30/31/51 Monday to Saturday - I forgot about that.
 

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Angus council should have made these change this week. Its only 14 weeks to the lot of service changes :D
 

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Yes, which could prove very interesting if rumours are true up here...

Anyone heard if/when the Stagecoach order will be made public for 2018/9, as again, I've heard rumours...
 

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Yes, which could prove very interesting if rumours are true up here...

Anyone heard if/when the Stagecoach order will be made public for 2018/9, as again, I've heard rumours...

St Andrews are getting dozen new E200MMC for improved 99s service, but rumor which seems to be causing the stir is of course 5 extra deckers for route 73 IF the conductors are taken off the route.
 

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There are definitely 5 new Hybrids on order. Whether they're for the 39, or for the 73, that's what the question is.

I am going to wager that a Hybrid appears on 39s tomorrow...
 

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What’s the rumoured changes for Dundee at north fife areas other than the conductors going?
Don’t understand 5 extra PVR for the 73 - seems overkill
 

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Well there is the North East Fife tender changes too. I don't want to say too much incase I'm not allowed to.

Have you seen loadings on the 73 at peak times and on Saturdays? There's commonly a full bus of medical students on the 4.15 from Ninewells. For Tayway to go OPO, extra time would need added on each bus so that
1) drivers have enough time to sell tickets
2) headway is maintained
 

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I know it can be busy but surely a targeted campaign for smartcard / m tickets would help and speed up the process.
I presume when you mean big changes that it will be more cuts!
We can only surmise that when the enhanced ScotRail timetables kicks in and more calls at broughty Ferry and Arbroath then more cuts will be ahead.
 

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Well there is the North East Fife tender changes too. I don't want to say too much incase I'm not allowed to.

Its already been reported who won what for the new north east Fife council tenders, there all signed and dealt with so it public domain now ;) So you can talk to your hearts content about that. :D

Surprisingly Scotrail88 more cuts isn't whats happening, its improvements.... Service 99 is surpose to be getting bumped up in Freq with new stock.
you can see who won what here: https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...land-fleet-changes.25933/page-83#post-3436671
 

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It looks like 19 of the new low floor coaches are on order. for East Scotland

There are the 10 that are due to be in service this week on the X55 and some X51 workings, and a further four for Dunfermline in a few months time to fully convert the X51, along with 5 for Perth in a few months time to convert the X56 from Perth to Edinburgh to low floor coach.
 

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Someone on another forum (who knows about the order) said it had not been definitely decided where the other 9 are going.
 

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So far, St Andrews have received at least 4 Versas; 25204/25215/25233/25269, and MAN 22572.
Arbroath have received 1 Scania E400; 15632.
Aberhill have received 4 Scania E400s; 15625/6/7/8.
 

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It seems 19 are indeed coming, ( the other 9 were supposed to be for another Stagecoach company ) 5 are going to perth for X56, and at least 12 is going to Dunfermline for X51 and X55. It's unclear about the other two because both depots would have spare within those numbers., it been claimed there going to west fife?????
 

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Email I saw said 14 to Dunfermline (X51 and X55) and 5 to Perth (X56)

That should at last see off the old B7's

I see 53702/704/705/708 are off down South already
 

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It supposed to be just in time for the School holidays the next batch.

Press release confirms it's 19 on order

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/news/...t?hootPostID=b0a6f5edfdaddd30b86981f367ded2dd

New coaches launched for X55 route
14 May 2018

Stagecoach East Scotland have announced an investment of £2.7million for a fleet of 10 innovative new coaches improving public transport accessibility in West Fife.

First of their kind, these coaches are unique in the fact that almost half the vehicle's seating is on a low level, allowing those with mobility issues and wheelchair users easier access, for complete peace of mind.

The Plaxton Panther LE coach model, on a Volvo B8R LE 6x2 Chassis, was manufactured by Plaxton Coaches in conjunction with Bus Users Scotland to provide passengers with the best possible vehicle for their journeys.

The vehicles still retain the level of luxury typical of Stagecoach Express coaches with leather reclining seats, free wifi access, USB charging points, air conditioning and a luggage hold.

This latest venture by Stagecoach East Scotland brings the company's new fleet investment to over £5.8 million in the past year alone.

Paul Thomas, Managing Director of Stagecoach East Scotland, said: “Stagecoach endeavour to remain at the forefront of transport development in the UK. This new vehicle investment demonstrates our commitment to making public transport greener and smarter, providing innovative, new vehicles and improving wheelchair accessibility on one of our routes to Edinburgh.

We're delighted to have worked with Bus Users Scotland on the design of these new coaches, their unique layout provides an easier, low floor access for those with mobility issues, without comprising on the coach style luxury. I sincerely hope our customers enjoy their journey on these upgraded vehicles!"

The coaches are due to be on the road in early May, with a second batch of 9 of the same coaches due later in the year for other routes in the East Scotland fleet.

These coaches will form part of Stagecoach East Scotland's wider award winning Express City Connect Network. The Express City Connect network operates high-quality coach services across Fife and into Edinburgh, Perth, Dundee, Aberdeen and Glasgow. The majority of new coaches will be used on the X55 Dunfermline to Edinburgh route, offering journeys up to every 20 minutes to the Capital, serving the recently upgraded Ferrytoll P&R site.

Gavin Booth, Director of Bus Users Scotland said: “We welcomed the invitation from Stagecoach East Scotland and Plaxton to get involved in the access and interior layout of the new coaches. Now that we have seen the finished product, I think it ticks a lot of boxes for passengers in terms of accessibility and comfort. The result is a proper passenger-friendly inter-city coach and I look forward to sampling it in service.”

The vehicles were officially launched by the Minister for Further Education, Higher Education and Science, Shirley-Anne Somerville MSP on Monday 14 May. These innovative new coaches will also be on display at the company's Dunfermline depot open day, celebrating 100 years of the bus garage, on Saturday 19 May.

Shirley Anne Somerville, Minister for Further Education, Higher Education and Science, said:


“I am delighted to join Stagecoach in welcoming this great investment towards public transport accessibility in West Fife. These new accessible buses will benefit residents and visitors alike. All people with disabilities should travel with the same freedom, choice and dignity as others, and this welcome investment will have a truly positive impact for people who use wheelchairs or who have mobility issues.


The Scottish Government spends around £250 million per year supporting buses – including on our National Concessionary Travel Scheme, helping disabled people get around on our bus network. The investment by Stagecoach makes a real difference to people’s lives and supports our vision of more accessible public transport for all.”

Stagecoach offer a vast range of great value tickets, including single, return, daily, weekly and monthly tickets. Megarider and dayrider tickets provide unlimited travel for either one week or one day, ideal for commuters and day trippers alike.

For further information on bus timetables, journey planning or live bus times visit stagecoachbus.com or download the Stagecoach Bus app.
 

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So far, St Andrews have received at least 4 Versas; 25204/25215/25233/25269, and MAN 22572.
Arbroath have received 1 Scania E400; 15632.
Aberhill have received 4 Scania E400s; 15625/6/7/8.
The 5 buses to St Andrews- what are they to be used on?
 

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Anyone know what gearboxes are in those E300s that came from Manchester (27599 + 27600). 27599 this morning seemed to really struggle to get up to speed and sounded like it wouldn't get out of 3rd or 4th. I usually don't have anything bad to say about ADL but these ones are absolute hateful things to travel on...
 

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Anyone know what gearboxes are in those E300s that came from Manchester (27599 + 27600). 27599 this morning seemed to really struggle to get up to speed and sounded like it wouldn't get out of 3rd or 4th. I usually don't have anything bad to say about ADL but these ones are absolute hateful things to travel on...
Ex-Manchester buses seem to be notably bad... lots of complaints at Stagecoach West about the enviro 200s they took on!
 

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