WMTrains livery and station branding

[sufian123]

More than likely after the May timetable change. When that'll be is anyone's guess.

Thanks

 

[Domh245]

Not massively surprising as they switched designer(s) and no longer use purple at all. Surely it was a bit of an expense to have paid for a livery design and only used it once though!

The first livery was essentially just the one that had been produced by West Midlands Rail (the local government association, not the brand) but tweaked to not look terrible, and to be more sympathetic to the shape of the train. That said, I'd be amazed if they drop purple entirely, seeing as purple is a colour heavily associated with the west midlands - indeed the post you've responded to mentions that it is still orange and purple!

 

[ChrisHogan]

When we likely to see more new livefy

Probably on the cascaded 172/0s and perhaps the 319s. WMT is tight enough for units (both diesel and electric) for any of the existing fleet going off to be painted in silly colours. We had a fortnight of shortforming on the Snow Hill lines before 172339 appeared.

 

[Chris172]

Maybe they will go for the original design though they could use the orange on the front like LO 710s except lighter?

 

[sufian123]

Probably on the cascaded 172/0s and perhaps the 319s. WMT is tight enough for units (both diesel and electric) for any of the existing fleet going off to be painted in silly colours. We had a fortnight of shortforming on the Snow Hill lines before 172339 appeared.

I agree and they still suffering from short forms today.

 

[E_Reeves]

Will the LNWR livery change or is that probably the final design?

 

[JordyWM]

Maybe they will go for the original design though they could use the orange on the front like LO 710s except lighter?

I think they should go with the design that was shown on the press release of the new trains.

 

[superalbs]

I think they should go with the design that was shown on the press release of the new trains.

White...just what we need more of.

 

[brick60000]

Not massively surprising as they switched designer(s) and no longer use purple at all. Surely it was a bit of an expense to have paid for a livery design and only used it once though!

Purple appears on the station signage at Wolverhampton, which has only recently been rebranded.

 

[whhistle]

Purple appears on the station signage at Wolverhampton, which has only recently been rebranded.

Which is strange because this looks like yellow to me:

Wonder if they won't stick to that colour scheme then.

 

[Chris172]

Which is strange because this looks like yellow to me:

Wonder if they won't stick to that colour scheme then.

The local authority TfWM is deciding the design for the station

 

[JordyWM]

I can’t see the whole front facade being massively WMR branded, if at all. Maybe a sign or two but that’s it. I think on the whole the front will and should be fairly neutral.

 

[JordyWM]

White...just what we need more of.

Can’t say I’m a fan of loads of white either, but it looks much classier than the designs we currently have.

 

[Domh245]

Also worth noting that in a more accurate (and presumably later) render, the yellow has turned distinctly orange. I'd be inclined to trust it over that one, seeing as they've managed to put the tram in the right colours at least.

 

[JordyWM]

On a side note, looks like the new TfWM branding is this:

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_for_West_Midlands

 

[DavidGrain]

That said, I'd be amazed if they drop purple entirely, seeing as purple is a colour heavily associated with the west midlands -

As a West Midlander I don't understand this sentence. In railway terms this has been relevant only for the past few months with the change of franchisee. The only other instance of railway use that I can think of is Bornville Station being painted in Cadbury Blue in honour of the adjacent factory.

Reference has also been made to Wolverhampton. I have not been there for a little while so I have not seen the changes but this station has recently been tranferred from Virgin management to West Midlands Trains so there will be some change in the signage but I would have expected the signage to be in gold as other WMR stations.

 

[59CosG95]

As a West Midlander I don't understand this sentence. In railway terms this has been relevant only for the past few months with the change of franchisee. The only other instance of railway use that I can think of is Bornville Station being painted in Cadbury Blue in honour of the adjacent factory.

Reference has also been made to Wolverhampton. I have not been there for a little while so I have not seen the changes but this station has recently been tranferred from Virgin management to West Midlands Trains so there will be some change in the signage but I would have expected the signage to be in gold as other WMR stations.

Some of the stations in the West Midlands got gold signage (Bromsgrove, Northampton etc.) due to being the home stations of some of Team GB's gold medal winners at the 2016 Olympics. So far, B'ham Snow Hill & Wolverhampton are the only WMR-operated stations in the new colours, and IIRC, Snow Hill has a bit more purple than Wolves.

 

[hexagon789]

On a side note, looks like the new TfWM branding is this:

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_for_West_Midlands

Nothing special really, the logo's nice enough but the color scheme isn't that great IMO.

 

[Rail Blues]

Nothing special really, the logo's nice enough but the color scheme isn't that great IMO.

Orange and grey is always a good colour combination.

 

[hexagon789]

Orange and grey is always a good colour combination.

It's more the profusion of grey.

 

[JordyWM]

WMCA also seems to have a new orange logo too. Seems like everything is going orange, including the logo used on the Birmingham Gay Pride special bus stop sign. Midland Metro is becoming West Midlands Metro too.

When are we likely to see this revised WMR livery? Anytime soon?

 

[Old Hill Bank]

The livery shown at Tuesdays SLUG meeting was still orange and purple but with orange extending down the cab sides to about half way to the first passenger door. Personally I am more interested on the inside.

 

[Silverlink]

I agree. Can’t wait to see what the interior specs are going to be. Euston seems to have new LNR branded signs on the ticket machines & ticket offices. Not as nice as LM ;(

 

[DavidGrain]

Back in January I posted on this thread that I had seen a train through a gap in the platform buildings at MKC with the new WMR livery. Many people told me I was wrong. Last Saturday I saw for the first time the train painted in LNW livery and I am convinced more than ever that it was the WMR livery I saw, especially as a few weeks ago I saw the WMR liveried train on the Stourbridge line.

 

[E_Reeves]

Back in January I posted on this thread that I had seen a train through a gap in the platform buildings at MKC with the new WMR livery. Many people told me I was wrong. Last Saturday I saw for the first time the train painted in LNW livery and I am convinced more than ever that it was the WMR livery I saw, especially as a few weeks ago I saw the WMR liveried train on the Stourbridge line.

I highly doubt it'd be the WMR 172. Did you just see the side of it or did you see the front too?

 

[Harbornite]

Back in January I posted on this thread that I had seen a train through a gap in the platform buildings at MKC with the new WMR livery. Many people told me I was wrong. Last Saturday I saw for the first time the train painted in LNW livery and I am convinced more than ever that it was the WMR livery I saw, especially as a few weeks ago I saw the WMR liveried train on the Stourbridge line.

Highly unlikely you saw 172339 at Milton Keynes, there's no reason for it to be in that neck of the woods.

 

[59CosG95]

Highly unlikely you saw 172339 at Milton Keynes, there's no reason for it to be in that neck of the woods.

Could it have been one of the WMR Sprinters? They all still carry LM livery, but with WMR branding.
I'm fairly sure that there aren't many trains around MKC with a livery that's fairly similar to WMR's distinctive purple and orange "Cadbury Double Decker" livery!

 

[DavidGrain]

I was on a Virgin train and I saw the side of the other through a gap in the platform buildings. It was definitely the logo shown on the left above and it had a light background not like the stickers currently affixed to the black panel on the old LM livery. I agree that I cannot think of any reason for it to be there and a check on RTT for that day showed that any train that I could have seen there would have been an electric train which we know none of them carry the WMR livery.

 

[E_Reeves]

I was on a Virgin train and I saw the side of the other through a gap in the platform buildings. It was definitely the logo shown on the left above and it had a light background not like the stickers currently affixed to the black panel on the old LM livery. I agree that I cannot think of any reason for it to be there and a check on RTT for that day showed that any train that I could have seen there would have been an electric train which we know none of them carry the WMR livery.

Could it've been a 319 in the white livery with a WMR sticker applied or are those under LNR?

 

[Bletchleyite]

319s are all LNR.

Could have been a 150 or 153 heading to/from Bletchley but those would be in ex-LM livery with a WMR sticker.