91119: Returns to service and in Swallow livery too!

[hexagon789]

Other than the 170 itself being barely powerful enough to get to 100mph

The 156s were temporarily allowed to operate at 90mph on Scotrail during the 158 emergency withdrawal weren't they?

Not that I'm aware of, 75 mph, no air-con and no First Class. The 47/7s and Mk3s were
sheer utter decadence in comparison.

 

[Mordac]

Gather 1S18 (booked for a 91) has hit sheep near Berwick and it’s caused some damage. Could be that another one is out of action for a while.

That's baaaad. Things are starting to look woolly for loco availability. Hope they don't have to get another 90 to cover, those are a bit like the mutton dressed as the lamb.

I'll get my coat.

 

[hexagon789]

That's baaaad. Things are starting to look woolly for loco availability. Hope they don't have to get another 90 to cover, those are a bit like the mutton dressed as the lamb.

I'll get my coat.

Ha ha ha

 

[driver_m]

That's baaaad. Things are starting to look woolly for loco availability. Hope they don't have to get another 90 to cover, those are a bit like the mutton dressed as the lamb.

I'll get my coat.

You should, a lamb-entable effort.

 

[Mordac]

You should, a lamb-entable effort.

I really should stop trying to ram as many jokes in as possible.

 

[hexagon789]

You should, a lamb-entable effort.

I really should stop trying to ram as many jokes in as possible.

Oh Gawd, it gets worse!

 

[hexagon789]

It's hardly a lambing matter!

 

[driver_m]

Ewe need to get this baa-ck on topic before the mods baa-n us all.

 

[hexagon789]

Ewe need to get this baa-ck on topic before the mods baa-n us all.

I think we do, but they haven't noticed us all bleating away yet!

 

[ainsworth74]

I think we do, but they haven't noticed us all bleating away yet!

Ahem back to the topic please

 

[Darandio]

Ahem back to the topic please

Shear, whatever you say.

Thats it, I promise

 

[Strat-tastic]

No, we can't pull the wool over their eyes for long

 

[hexagon789]

Ahem back to the topic please

Sorry!

 

[43096]

Back to 91s, VTEC had two DB Class 90s (90018/029) in use yesterday as cover.

 

[gingertom]

at least this didn't happen on the Lamb-ington viaduct...

 

[hexagon789]

Back to 91s, VTEC had two DB Class 90s (90018/029) in use yesterday as cover.

I thought they usually had two in service or is it only one?

 

[hexagon789]

at least this didn't happen on the Lamb-ington viaduct...

Very true!

 

[43096]

I thought they usually had two in service or is it only one?

It varies - it was just 90018 earlier in the week. They normally have access to two i.e. that’s what DB Cargo provide, though for obvious reasons (cost and timekeeping to name two) they prefer to use 91s.

 

[hexagon789]

It varies - it was just 90018 earlier in the week. They normally have access to two i.e. that’s what DB Cargo provide, though for obvious reasons (cost and timekeeping to name two) they prefer to use 91s.

I would prefer 91s myself!

 

[randyrippley]

Ewe need to get this baa-ck on topic before the mods baa-n us all.

you trying to curry favour with them?

 

[hexagon789]

If 91119 doesget fixed, iso there any timescale for when it might re-enter service?

 

[randyrippley]

If 91119 doesget fixed, iso there any timescale for when it might re-enter service?

I suspect that first they have to find the parts, and that may not be so easy for electronics of that age

 

[D365]

you trying to curry favour with them?

At least that’s the vote for the next forum meal taken care of.

 

[hexagon789]

I suspect that first they have to find the parts, and that may not be so easy for electronics of that age

Presumably there's no point in new electronics?

 

[D365]

Presumably there's no point in new electronics?

Think how much the design work will cost, and that’s just for starters.

 

[hexagon789]

Think how much the design work will cost, and that’s just for starters.

Probably a few £100,000

 

[randyrippley]

Probably a few £100,000

that's just to fire up the computer.........
only way new equipment could be justified would be as a prototype for a rebuild for the whole class, but that's not going to happen.
New electronics would need a new safety case and all the required approval testing

 

[hexagon789]

that's just to fire up the computer.........
only way new equipment could be justified would be as a prototype for a rebuild for the whole class, but that's not going to happen.
New electronics would need a new safety case and all the required approval testing

Which is a shame, a re-build 91 would be better than those bi-mode things.

 

[randyrippley]

Which is a shame, a re-build 91 would be better than those bi-mode things.

After 30 years? The bodies will be shot.

 

[hexagon789]

After 30 years? The bodies will be shot.

The HSTs seem fine after over 40