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GWR operating short 'HSTGTi' sets (see diagrams section for workings)

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TT-ONR-NRN said:
I can’t stand them. IETs for me if I’m in Standard. Definitely.

Vice versa if in First.
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(Off topic for this thread, except inasmuchas the HSTGTis seem to have kept the same seats as they had before the refurb, apologies: I wonder how tall you are — as for me, I'm 1.85m, and after several experiences now, can confirm that in the IETs the lumbar support is too low, the arm rests are too low, and the head rests are too low (and just push my shoulders forward, so I end up with my back curved completely in the “wrong” shape) in the IETs. Generally not very comfortable at all, and seemingly built for somebody substantially shorter than me without being sufficiently well designed that they are still passable for those substantially taller (and maybe shorter) than the chosen “standard” stature. I just tend to sit on the seat base and ignore the backrest, sitting forward without resting on it. Not ideal even for shorter journeys, and would be really unpleasant for a longer one. Bring on electrification to Oxford so we can have 387s instead :) In the HSTs, although I don't like the claustrophobic feel (and the pitch which is so tight that it makes using a notebook computer very difficult in the airline seats, unlike the IETs, which have much more civilised pitch) … I find the seats more comfortable to rest my back / head against. Hey ho.)
 
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gallafent said:
(Off topic for this thread, except inasmuchas the HSTGTis seem to have kept the same seats as they had before the refurb, apologies: I wonder how tall you are — as for me, I'm 1.85m, and after several experiences now, can confirm that in the IETs the lumbar support is too low, the arm rests are too low, and the head rests are too low (and just push my shoulders forward, so I end up with my back curved completely in the “wrong” shape) in the IETs. Generally not very comfortable at all, and seemingly built for somebody substantially shorter than me without being sufficiently well designed that they are still passable for those substantially taller (and maybe shorter) than the chosen “standard” stature. I just tend to sit on the seat base and ignore the backrest, sitting forward without resting on it. Not ideal even for shorter journeys, and would be really unpleasant for a longer one. Bring on electrification to Oxford so we can have 387s instead :) In the HSTs, although I don't like the claustrophobic feel (and the pitch which is so tight that it makes using a notebook computer very difficult in the airline seats, unlike the IETs, which have much more civilised pitch) … I find the seats more comfortable to rest my back / head against. Hey ho.)
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About 1.7m to 1.75m. Roughly :)
I hate IC25 seats because they’re too short. I hate IC Grammar seats even more purely due to the shape. First class is perfectly fine for me :)
 
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gallafent said:
(Off topic for this thread, except inasmuchas the HSTGTis seem to have kept the same seats as they had before the refurb, apologies: I wonder how tall you are — as for me, I'm 1.85m, and after several experiences now, can confirm that in the IETs the lumbar support is too low, the arm rests are too low, and the head rests are too low (and just push my shoulders forward, so I end up with my back curved completely in the “wrong” shape) in the IETs. Generally not very comfortable at all, and seemingly built for somebody substantially shorter than me without being sufficiently well designed that they are still passable for those substantially taller (and maybe shorter) than the chosen “standard” stature. I just tend to sit on the seat base and ignore the backrest, sitting forward without resting on it. Not ideal even for shorter journeys, and would be really unpleasant for a longer one. Bring on electrification to Oxford so we can have 387s instead :) In the HSTs, although I don't like the claustrophobic feel (and the pitch which is so tight that it makes using a notebook computer very difficult in the airline seats, unlike the IETs, which have much more civilised pitch) … I find the seats more comfortable to rest my back / head against. Hey ho.)
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That pretty much sums up my view.
 
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class387 said:
Can this photo be made public?

I'm assuming the seats have the new GWR moquette as used on the 387s and DMU returns, rather than the light grey cloth used on LA15 and 166205 which gets stained quickly.
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Oh you should see the condition of the 387's they are in very poor state I'm sure it is the cloth seating just like Southern and Gatwick Express
 
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MatthewRead said:
Actually Turbos are cleared as far as Plymouth as one did a test run down there back in 1992.
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They are not cleared west of Exeter and can only operate in normal service as far as Taunton.

The run in 1992 was a one off.
 
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twpsaesneg said:
I take it that door is fully open and not caught on the fly?
The door aperture doesn't look very big now if so!

Edited to add - thanks for sharing!
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They were looking around it, one member of staff even stuck his phone in the gap above the door. Think it might be a little bit wrong! :P

Doors are very slow.
 
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superalbs said:
They were looking around it, one member of staff even stuck his phone in the gap above the door. Think it might be a little bit wrong! :P

Doors are very slow.
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Cheers for the photos. :)

Regarding the doors, are we talking slower than 158 slow, or just generally slow?
 
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I understood they were going to be dda compliant, that opening doesn’t look wide enough for a wheelchair. Maybe the photo is deceiving?
 
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Doors are a bit slow, but it's better than ones the shut quickly and squeeze you unexpectedly!

Looks good overall
 
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superalbs said:
Yeah.

I think I'm joking when I say that its dwell times might be just as bad! :P
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Surely one of the primary advantages of having the power doors fitted was shorter dwell times, not worse than a 158 dwell times and potentially no better than existing HST dwells.
 
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