Train uncoupled at Leeds

[Bantamzen]

There are problems for services this afternoon at Leeds, with lots of services currently delayed due to a failure at the western throat. Just leaving on 2H52 15:56 Leeds-Skipton we've passed a 150 (203 I think) that seems to have sat down just outside the station. ETA on NR for normal service resumption is 17:45.

 

[185143]

TPE twitter are reporting 'a coach becoming uncoupled on a train'...

 

[Bantamzen]

NR update here:

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/183616.aspx

A train fault at Leeds means that some lines at this station are blocked.

Trains may be cancelled, delayed by up to 30 minutes or diverted.

A normal service is expected to resume by 17:45.

 

[Bantamzen]

TPE twitter are reporting 'a coach becoming uncoupled on a train'...

That might explain why the delay is estimated for another couple of hours. I must admit I'd didn't notice it being uncoupled but we were past it before I looked properly. It looks newly refurbished too, I wonder if its due a trip back to the works to look at the problem?

Edit: Looking at OpenTrains it seems to be 2L38 14:06 Sheffield to Leeds that has the problem.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y51638/2018/02/07/advanced

 

[warriorofrovac]

Service was the 2U29. Manchester Victoria - Leeds which has apparently divided on approach to Leeds, blocking routes D&E.

 

[Bantamzen]

Service was the 2U29. Manchester Victoria - Leeds which has apparently divided on approach to Leeds, blocking routes D&E.

Ah right, it looked like it might have been the Sheffield one as that seemed to be sitting at Leeds West on OpenTrains for quite a while. Thanks for the clarification .

 

[ASharpe]

Just passed on the 1626. Looks like it has split.

Seems a good service is still running on the airdale lines. I thought I'd be stuck for a while at Leeds but after fighting through the crowds waiting for a man pic train on 5 i got myself a seat on the Skipton train with two minutes to spare which is rather unusual.

 

[robbeech]

I am currently on 1V64 (XC Edinburgh to Plymouth). Sat for 20 outside Neville Hill. Which I was happy with.
We are number 5 in the queue according to the TM. Only seen 1 train depart East towards Neville Hill in the last 25 minutes.

I assume we will be routed down ‘F’ anyway when the time comes. I’m en route to Sheffield but luckily in no rush.
One block at a time it seems.

 

[chrissawer]

There is a photo on Twitter (not mine), it is definitely a refurbished 150 but photo is not good enough quality to see the number.

https://twitter.com/mat12of10/status/961266708622258176

 

[bonzawe]

euphemisms at Leeds

3 tweets 3 descriptions of problem, why could all three not be honest like TPE? Does this sort of lack of coordination just not create confusion and the impression of confusion?

 

[gavin]

There is a photo on Twitter (not mine), it is definitely a refurbished 150 but photo is not good enough quality to see the number.

https://twitter.com/mat12of10/status/961266708622258176

150 203 was the train

 

[Eccles1983]

euphemisms at Leeds
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3 tweets 3 descriptions of problem, why could all three not be honest like TPE? Does this sort of lack of coordination just not create confusion and the impression of confusion?

All three are honest.

Does it really matter to an average person? Most wont know what a coupler is or its relevance.

Where as an operational incident or train fault (which are both correct) is easier to understand.

 

[chrissawer]

150 203 was the train

According to the Northern Unit Refurbishment thread, this train was away in mid-January, so presumably has come back into service quite recently.

150203.. ATC Crewe fleet enhancement work (15/1)

 

[eisenach]

Seems a good service is still running on the airdale lines. I thought I'd be stuck for a while at Leeds but after fighting through the crowds waiting for a man pic train on 5 i got myself a seat on the Skipton train with two minutes to spare which is rather unusual.

If only the Skipton - Colne line was still open, the Manchester crowds would have been able to get there that way !

 

[AlterEgo]

euphemisms at Leeds
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3 tweets 3 descriptions of problem, why could all three not be honest like TPE? Does this sort of lack of coordination just not create confusion and the impression of confusion?

Let’s not get started on “operational incident” either. I noticed TPE said plainly what happened and nobody died of shock.

 

[pdq]

Let’s not get started on “operational incident” either. I noticed TPE said plainly what happened and nobody died of shock.

Indeed, it's being repeated on the PA every 30 seconds at Huddersfield as every late train is announced with the apology and reason.

 

[coxxy]

Didn't 150203 have some other problem not long after coming back from refurb?

I'm in no way say it the refurb quality etc is plagued but I'd certainly say northern aren't having much luck with it..

You can't paint a turd and all that..

 

[xotGD]

I was stuck in the queue outside Leeds for an hour. Guard told us the problem was a split train. Now on 20 mins delayed Airedale service. Delay Repay time!

German ICE this morning had no such problems...

 

[Crossover]

Here is another photo which is doing the round on social media (again not my photo) - Clicky!

From this it looks like the two halves have got some distance from each other! Also seems to confirm it is 150203

 

[Andyh82]

How does a DMU function when split in two, as of course both halves have some sort of power, I'm assuming automatic brakes would or should come on?

 

[Crossover]

How does a DMU function when split in two, as of course both halves have some sort of power, I'm assuming automatic brakes would or should come on?

Brake continuity should go causing an emergency brake application (I presume there is also something to cut the power if continuity is lost there too)

 

[bonzawe]

Here is another photo which is doing the round on social media (again not my photo) - Clicky!

From this it looks like the two halves have got some distance from each other! Also seems to confirm it is 150203

That photo might have been captured during recovery, the other twitter stream

https://twitter.com/mat12of10/with_replies
scroll though

shows the two vehicles being recovered into the station separately.

 

[ASharpe]

From this it looks like the two halves have got some distance from each other! Also seems to confirm it is 150203

That photo might have been captured during recovery, the other twitter stream

https://twitter.com/mat12of10/with_replies
scroll though

shows the two vehicles being driven into the station separately.

Only around a foot apart at 1630 ish when I passed.

 

[Crossover]

That photo might have been captured during recovery, the other twitter stream

https://twitter.com/mat12of10/with_replies
scroll though

shows the two vehicles being driven into the station separately.

Ah, OK. I can't view your link as not on Twitter, but I think you're right

I have since read the front half was taken into Leeds station (pl 11B possibly) and the rear half separately propelled in too. I believe all lines may be open again

 

[bonzawe]

The signalling diagram for plat 11 has a manual entry of DEIC presumably the crippled train - any idea of the abbreviations meaning

 

[yorksrob]

Ironically, the one fast train that stops at my local station in the evening, was delayed long enough for me to catch it. I actually got there half an hour earlier.

 

[TMLB UK]

DEIC = ‘Demic’ ie failure?

Just a guess

 

[Raul_Duke]

German ICE this morning had no such problems...

 

[bonzawe]

DEIC = ‘Demic’ ie failure?

Just a guess

thanks
did not think of that - sounds logicsl

 

[skyhigh]

Wasn't helped by passengers detraining themselves...