Northern Unit Refurbishments and depot allocations.

[MG11]

Ashbourne - The seating fitted to ex- Arriva Trains Northern (ATN) and London Midland (LM) Class 150s
Chapman - Fitted to Class 155s, ex-First North Western (FNW) 150s, 153s, 156s & ex-Wessex/Alphaline 158s
Richmond - Fitted to ex-Arriva Trains Northern Class 144s, 153s and 156s
MTB - Fitted to ex-.First North Western, Central & Arriva Transpennine/WYPTE Class 158s

 

[brel york]

Primerus

 

[northwichcat]

Rather that than simply referring to Chapmans or Ashbournes or Cholmondeley-Featherstonehaughs or whatever... though in the example given, "original seating" will suffice.

I used to call the Ashbourne seating the original seating until people started complaining that it isn't actually the original seating.

 

[brel york]

I like mk 1 seating , spring unit and horse hair

 

[brel york]

Ashbourne is the original seating

 

[brel york]

I like ic70 seats or the ic80 out of the APT and in the mk3B

 

[61653 HTAFC]

MTB - Fitted to ex-.First North Western, Central & Arriva Transpennine/WYPTE Class 158s

So those would be the original 158 seats then, as still fitted to the WYPTE 10.

I used to call the Ashbourne seating the original seating until people started complaining that it isn't actually the original seating.

Are they not? I knew 150001 (and presumably 002) had a few different types fitted initially but had always thought the production units had always had those seats (which I'll probably forget are Ashbournes anyway).

 

[Bantamzen]

I love seating lol

I mentioned seats once, but I think I got away with it.....

 

[MG11]

What are the official names of the Pacer 'bench' seating and the ex-Merseyrail seating?

 

[geoffk]

It is only the North the people serving paper pushing bureaucrats in the South feel people should be crammed in as needed. It is also fine for them to be riding around in life expired rolling stock. The design aim by BREL for the Class 150 units was 30 years, perhaps no one noticed at the DFT that these units are end of life.

My experience is that passengers would rather stand than cram into the middle seat of the three. ATW has 150s with 2+2, the nearest to me being on the Bidston to Wrexham service. But the DfT's targets seem more important than passenger comfort.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

What are the official names of the Pacer 'bench' seating and the ex-Merseyrail seating?

i) Racks.
ii) Iron Maidens.

Or should be!

 

[brel york]

In late 1980s 150/1 were converted to 3+2

 

[brel york]

Just checking seating drawings 150/2 had Ashbourne, 150/1 had something similar to a 317/318 seating until conversion to Ashbourne in late 80s

 

[TEW]

In late 1980s 150/1 were converted to 3+2

150/1s were always 3+2, but as you say above, originally with the same seats as found in 317s and 318s. These were arranged in all bay seating layout, as per the ex-FNW 150/1s with Chapman seats.

 

[brel york]

Yeah I’ve found the drawing for the 3+2 layout , the seats are a tubular design , similar to ic70 but without the rubber arm rests , they were in red herring moquette and the 318 were in ‘blue/red stripe with purple side panels

 

[brel york]

And the prototypes had a mixture of 3x2 some in bays some not

 

[geoffk]

Updated list, thanks to those who have posted updates.
Due: 150001, 150002; 150101, 150102, 150104, 150105, 150106, 150107, 150108, 150109, 150120, 150121, 150122, 150123, 150124, 150125, 150126, 150127, 150128, 150129, 150130, 150131.

Are 150202 and 216 now staying with GWR?

 

[brel york]

Yes they were refurbished in gwr green , so was 001 and 002

 

[driver_m]

All this seat wibble. You want to try the second man's seat in the cabs of most Northern units. You'd never complain again.

 

[brel york]

Lol yeah there high quality

 

[xotGD]

A friend of mine told me that he had a new girlfriend. I pointed out that she wasn't new - she had just changed her hair colour and had been going out with someone else for the past five years.

 

[BurtonM]

What are the official names of the Pacer 'bench' seating and the ex-Merseyrail seating?

Pacer benches are just '80s bus seats. Best seats they have IMO.

 

[MG11]

Pacer benches are just '80s bus seats. Best seats they have IMO.

I like them because they are well padded and allow for a great view over the Peak District. *perpares to get shot down in flames*

 

[Bletchleyite]

I like them because they are well padded and allow for a great view over the Peak District. *perpares to get shot down in flames*

If there's one thing that's good about Pacers (and 153s) it's the good all round view due to the small window pillars. Though Electrostars and Turbostars come *reasonably* close.

 

[Brian Aylott]

The LM 150s have been in wabtec for Corrosion Work and new floor/ Lino fitted , they will be coming back to have the prm work done , I have the dates predicted if required

I and I'm certain many others would be pleased to get this inf
Thank you
Brian

 

[Bovverboy]

Makes me wonder if the steel bodied 150, 155 etc are way past there economic life and it may be cheaper to procure new. I seem to remember reading somewhere one 150 needed a new roof.
K

I can't vouch for how well the 150s are standing up to wear & tear, but I don't mind saying that I do see them as most underrated DMUs.
As a first feather in their cap, they're the nearest thing Britain's railways have to a 'go-anywhere' train. I'm not aware of any passenger routes from which they're prohibited, but on the other hand I can think of routes where they're the only type normally used, or perhaps even permitted, I'm not sure about that.
And their wide doorways positioned 1/3 and 2/3 along the carriage length makes them much more suitable for local services than, say, 156s.
The interior layout is almost identical to that of a 319, and I haven't noticed anyone describe the 319s as 'life-expired'.

 

[racklam]

I like them because they are well padded and allow for a great view over the Peak District. *perpares to get shot down in flames*

Yeah the Pacer benches are the best seats on the railway in terms of ambience inside the carriage. However, I recognise this comes at the expense of comfort on long journeys due to the lack of full height seat backs.

I'm never on a Pacer for more than 20 mins on the journeys I do, so for me they're perfect .

 

[brel york]

I’ve come to work on 142 106 , Sheffield to Doncaster , what a nail , bench seats in need of a retrim and no heating ,filthy inside too

 

[jonesy3001]

I’ve come to work on 142 106 , Sheffield to Doncaster , what a nail , bench seats in need of a retrim and no heating ,filthy inside too

Probably just patch them up since they'll be heading for the scrapyard in a couple of years.

 

[geoffk]

]156444 was on Whitby today. Noticed the directions to the toilet stickers are sending people in the wrong direction.View attachment 31968

That's very inconvenient.