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Final Electrostar Completed

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http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/business/staff-bid-farewell-bombardier-train-827417

Train-maker Bombardier has held a ceremony to mark the end of production of a train that many workers believe kept the firm’s Derby factory from closing.

At the event, which was held at the Litchurch Lane firm’s test facility - called V Shop - staff both past and present joined Bombardier Transportation’s managing director Richard Hunter to see the final Electrostar carriage roll off its production line.

Since the Derby site starting making the Electrostar in 1999, Bombardier has made 2,805 carriages and delivered them to 12 different customers.

An electric-powered train, it began being made at Derby when the Litchurch Lane site was operated by ADtranz. Bombardier continued production of the Electrostar after it took over ADtranz in 2001.

Today, the Electrostar is the most common electric train on Britain’s rail network since before the privatisation of British Rail.

Variants of the train are predominantly used on suburban commuter routes in south, north and east London. They are also used on mainline services south to Surrey, Sussex, Kent and South Essex coasts and north to Cambridge and Stansted Airport .

The Electrostar is also one of the few trains at Bombardier’s Derby site to be exported, when it was selected for use on the Gautrain system in South Africa, a new railway between Johannesburg, Pretoria, and the Johannesburg International Airport.

For each train, the components were made in Derby and then exported for assembly in South Africa.


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The Electrostar has been around for 18 years and has been delivered to 12 different customers
But the Electrostar has now been overtaken by a new electric-powered train that has been designed, developed and built in Derby - the Aventra.

In recent years, the Aventra has helped the Litchurch Lane factory win a glut of new orders. It has helped Bombardier win deals including Elizabeth Line (formerly Crossrail) and the new West Midlands Trains, Greater Anglia and South West rail franchises.

At the ceremony, Bombardier staff were also joined by past and present Electrostar customers, as well as Derby South MP Dame Margaret Beckett.

Speaking at the event, Mr Hunter said: “The train has been a stunning success - in production and in operation. That is a tribute to the brilliant and highly-skilled workforce we have here in Derby, but also our services depots across the country.


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Richard Hunter, UK managing director of Bombardier Transportation, paid tribute to his workforce
“I’d like to pay tribute to our engineers and designers, our production and test teams, our services teams and our suppliers who together have ensured this has been the most successful electric train in the UK for a very long period of time.”

Dame Margaret said: “If you’re good at what you do, which Bombardier clearly is, you can have a long future ahead of you. There are not so many places that can be as confident of that today.

“The Electrostar is a real triumph for everyone who has been involved at every stage. We are now hoping for similar success and longevity for the Aventra. That train has already got customers lined up from different parts of the country and hopefully one day different parts of the world.

“It’s a bit sad to the see the Electrostar go but what is really important is that it is making way for something that will lay a similarly solid foundation for the future.”


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Neil Shaw (left) and Colin Place both worked on Electrostar as engineers
Looking on were many staff who had worked on the original Electrostar design and development programme in the mid to late 1990s.

Neil Shaw, who was a project manager, said: “We started on the Electrostar in 1996, three years before it went into production. I am very proud to have worked on the train, which was quite revolutionary for the time.

“Initially, it was thought that we would build around 300 to 400 and it would be an eight-year programme. But the fact that it has lasted 18 years and over 2,800 have been made is fantastic.”

Colin Place, who initially worked on Electrostar as a propulsion engineer, said: “The Electrostar has been so important to Derby, bringing important orders in over the years that have allowed the factory to stay open.


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The Electrostar can be seen operating commuter routes in London
“I think it would be fair to say that not only would there be no Aventra without Electrostar - but there would be no Derby factory if it had not been for Electrostar.”

The final Electrostar which was on display at the ceremony was ordered by Derby train-leasing firm Porterbrook and is destined for the Great Western Railway.

Greg Moss, Bombardier’s production manager for the Electrostar, said: “I’ve worked on Electrostar since 2011. It has been my baby all that time so it is a bit emotional to know this is the last one.

“But these trains have a 30-year life-span so you can be rest assured that you will continue to see this train on the UK’s rail network for some decades to come.

“Personally, I will now be moving on to the Aventra very soon - and that is something that is very exciting. The Aventra takes many of the best bits from the Electrostar. I hope the Aventra enjoys just as much success as Electrostar did.”

It may not be the best family of trains to some, and they've not been without their issues, but I think it's no exaggeration to say that these trains are a fairly important chunk of railway history. And by my quick calculations, they're the second most populous EMU design after the Mk1/2 derived slammers, beating the Mk3 derived EMUs by almost a 1000 carriages
 
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R.I.P. the Electrostar.

A bit premature as they'll be with us for a while yet !

To be fair, a lot of them are pleasant enough in terms of interior design (even though they replaced my beloved slammers).

Down in my old stomping ground they've been somewhat displaced by the Javelins from the top-link services, but I still prefer them.
 

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Built from 1999 - 2017, some 18 years in production.

Is there any other EMU in UK railway history whose production line remained open for this long?
 

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Built from 1999 - 2017, some 18 years in production.

Is there any other EMU in UK railway history whose production line remained open for this long?
Not really a single production line, but the first Southern Region Mark 1 units, the 4CEP, 2HAP, were 1956 at Eastleigh, with the last 4REP and 4VEP units built in 1974 in York. It is slightly complicated though- the 4EPB production started in 1951 but they didn't switch to the Mark 1 based body until 1960.
 

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A great success, I find the Electrostar a very decent train and a definite step up from the Mk3 based EMUs and Networkers
 

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One railway journalist suggested a possible name for the last one a while back - Evening Electrostar!

Any chance of this being applied on launch?
 

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Is there much difference between the first unit and the last one to roll of the production line? I appreciate the interiors will be different but I'm thinking traction, cab layout etc
 

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Is there much difference between the first unit and the last one to roll of the production line? I appreciate the interiors will be different but I'm thinking traction, cab layout etc
well, if you discount the 357 cab, the gangwayed cabs are largely the same with the exception of operator specific equipment i.e. doo monitors etc. There were upgrades to the design to make units compliant with new regulations for new vehicles constructed post 2010(I think), which largely involved an additional communications bus for failover IIRC, but realistically all electrostars can couple and 'talk' to eachother, full brake and traction control, just the passenger safety systems differ (Pass comms and PIS I believe are the only ones)
 

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well, if you discount the 357 cab, the gangwayed cabs are largely the same with the exception of operator specific equipment i.e. doo monitors etc. There were upgrades to the design to make units compliant with new regulations for new vehicles constructed post 2010(I think), which largely involved an additional communications bus for failover IIRC, but realistically all electrostars can couple and 'talk' to eachother, full brake and traction control, just the passenger safety systems differ (Pass comms and PIS I believe are the only ones)

376 is also non gangwayed, 75mph max, no air con, no SDO and sliding rather than plug doors.

Is this the most “different” of all the Electrostars?
 

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Although a rare treat for me, I still enjoy driving a 376.
 

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Naughty naughty.

700's are pretty good to stop that I have found so far. Today was interesting and I slipped into bat and ball :/ The skill in the slip is a lot more about the Driver, than the train. 700's sand like a beach so it provides better grip overall and it seems to accelerate better than anything else I drive. They are currently an unknown and we are still learning them.

The good thing I have found with a 376 is that they are consistent. That consistent performance makes driving them a breeze and you can be much more proactive in your driving style, especially when predicting the slip.

Networkers are brake and pray to your chosen deity that it will eventually stop.
700's are brake and then wonder that, technically it should stop but 'computer might say no'
376 is brake here, because I know its gonna slip, but still stop.
 

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376 is also non gangwayed, 75mph max, no air con, no SDO and sliding rather than plug doors.

Is this the most “different” of all the Electrostars?

I believe that 357s have tightlock couplers and that all other Electrostar variants (inc Capitalstars) use Dellners
 

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I believe that 357s have tightlock couplers and that all other Electrostar variants (inc Capitalstars) use Dellners
You believe wrong. THey were fitted with Tightlocks when new but have all since be refitted with Dellners
 

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Is there much difference between the first unit and the last one to roll of the production line? I appreciate the interiors will be different but I'm thinking traction, cab layout etc
Externally, after the initial batches there were revised light clusters and later batches had metal-framed windows rather than ribbon bonded.
 

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7 I think!

1) The original Electrostar seating, found on most 375s and 377/1-5.

2) The thin 3x2 seating on some 375s and on 377/1-5. (My least favourite)

3) Fainsa seating as found on 377/6-7 and 387.

4) 379s have a unique and popular seat type designed for express travel. (My favourite)

5) In First class 379s have the same type of seats as 159 First class and Chiltern Business Zone. The seat type formerly used with GWR when it was still FGW. People often mistakenly say it is the same type of seat as the Mallard First class seat - it is NOT! :rolleyes::p

5) 357s have Chapman seating.

6) 376s have a unique metro style seat surprisingly also featured on GA Mk3 sets, mixed in with the more comfortable IC125 seats.

7) 378s have a longitudinal seating layout.
 

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Considering how many have been ordered, there's a distinctly Southern slant to where they've gone. What's the furthest North they go regularly?
 

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One could argue King's Lynn as well, by a very small margin.
All-time, their most northern excursions have either been to Derby or to Crewe (on mileage accumulation and all that jazz).

Yes you’re probably right with Kings Lynn as the furthest north in passenger service. I’ll quickly do some research...
 

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Yep. Kings Lynn it is! Whereas the Electrostar’s diesel brother the Turbostar runs as far north as Inverness!
 

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Considering how many have been ordered, there's a distinctly Southern slant to where they've gone. What's the furthest North they go regularly?
Yes, it's a bit of a curio that, when you consider that similar generation Alstom, Siemens and CAF EMUs operate elsewhere in the country
 

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Externally, after the initial batches there were revised light clusters and later batches had metal-framed windows rather than ribbon bonded.
I've always wondered what the reason was for the change in window frame design.
 
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