Liverpool Lime St remodelling

[Nean]

Any pictures of the progress at Lime Street since the closure?

Trains resume to Lime Street proper on the 9th so I doubt anyone non-NR or non-contractor has been in yet...

 

[KevinTurvey]

Any pictures of the progress at Lime Street since the closure?

Here is one taken on Saturday afternoon. To be honest they've made photography quite difficult with all the hoardings, and this is the only view I got - P7 being part demolished

 

[Nean]

Just passed through Parkway and though the staff were brilliant the signage was severely lacking... Northerns solo TVM is out of action, signs point to the MtoGo (Merseytravel own-brand shop). MtoGo don't do ticket collection. Seemingly the only place pre-booked ticket collection can happen is the 1 (I did see a second out of action) VTWC booth that says nothing about this- just "information". The merseytravel staff were to their credit handing out permits to travel to patch over the problem.

I also couldn't see any signs telling Virgin passengers to queue or go through a different barrier until I got to the overbrige. The only human error I experienced was the VTWC staff member at the top of the overbridge auto-directing people to the LM train for Runcorn/Stafford/Crewe without checking to see if they were booked on the VT service or not.

 

[DJH1971]

Here is one taken on Saturday afternoon. To be honest they've made photography quite difficult with all the hoardings, and this is the only view I got - P7 being part demolished

Thanks for this

 

[DavidL]

A few shots of the local train shed (taken backlit by Sun, sorry!) with a 66 parked up and lots of work going on - this morning (6th Oct). It's taken from behind the ticket barrier; hence the tunnel vision.

Plus another few of the long distance trainshed (as per Kevin's, obscured by fencing, etc) yesterday - a little more work - the track is up on 7 & 6.5.

Another couple showing the general emptiness of the place!

More than happy for these to be added to any of the ongoing "works" album; apologies for the Google link, but the photo size, etc etc.
Hopefully this link will work/shared correctly...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/4OeKD1fAhZpmM6V22

David

 

[185143]

Something's come off the road around South Parkway. NRE are saying disruption to the end of the day-everything seems to be cancelled.

Guess who's still on Merseyrail!

 

[185143]

Just passed through Parkway and though the staff were brilliant the signage was severely lacking... Northerns solo TVM is out of action, signs point to the MtoGo (Merseytravel own-brand shop). MtoGo don't do ticket collection. Seemingly the only place pre-booked ticket collection can happen is the 1 (I did see a second out of action) VTWC booth that says nothing about this- just "information". The merseytravel staff were to their credit handing out permits to travel to patch over the problem.

I also couldn't see any signs telling Virgin passengers to queue or go through a different barrier until I got to the overbrige. The only human error I experienced was the VTWC staff member at the top of the overbridge auto-directing people to the LM train for Runcorn/Stafford/Crewe without checking to see if they were booked on the VT service or not.

I was asked earlier when boarding a VT if I was going to London-replying that I'd have to make to with Runcorn...

That simply got a laugh-and no suggestion that I would be better on the LM service!

 

[LowLevel]

London Midland empty stock shunt has derailed apparently - all services suspended.

 

[GW43125]

London Midland empty stock shunt has derailed apparently - all services suspended.

Just heard from a friend up that way that a 350 is indeed in the dirt at Allerton Jn. It'll be interesting to see how bad it is.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Best to route to Crewe via Chester I should think.
Depending on where it derailed some of the crossover moves might still be operable.

 

[Starmill]

The people of Warrington are about to see the traffic situation get a whole lot worse.

Perhaps more people should make an effort to use the train?

Admittedly most fares from Runcorn also cost more than driving the equivalent journey would.

 

[Loop & Link]

Best to route to Crewe via Chester I should think.
Depending on where it derailed some of the crossover moves might still be operable.

Crossover from Platform 4-3 behind AN4 signal

 

[185143]

VT and LM Journey check pages both warning of trains terminating at Crewe until 23:59 on 07/10. I assume TPE/EMT will also be in the same situation?

 

[M60lad]

Now Correct me if I'm wrong but it's looking like East Midlands Trains are terminating/starting at Manchester Oxford Road today and Trans Pennine Express look as if their running through to Warrington Central. Northern are still running to/from Hunts Cross from what I can gather

 

[8A Rail]

Now Correct me if I'm wrong but it's looking like East Midlands Trains are terminating/starting at Manchester Oxford Road today and Trans Pennine Express look as if their running through to Warrington Central. Northern are still running to/from Hunts Cross from what I can gather

Yes that is what I understand too. Virgin trains are going to Warrington Bank Quay / Crewe. LMR as far as Crewe. Passengers advised to go to / from Crewe. I assume coaches laid on to take them there and back too. And latest reports for the rest of the day too.

 

[gimmea50anyday]

There's another thread discussing the derailment specifically on the general page. Just posted some images of the 350 that has come off the road.. Without wanting to sound like I'm speculating but internal word suggests the points moved under the train, why has yet to be established. looking at the images would suggest this may well be the case. Of course nothing has been confirmed at this stage. Given the unusual and out of course nature of the movements taking place at allerton a mistake being made somewhere will be more likely.

 

[northwichcat]

A track defect caused disruption to Wirral line services this afternoon. Merseyrail chose to run the 14:45 from Liverpool Central to Chester, which was over 10 minutes late, semi-fast which maintained a connection with the 15:35 departure from Chester for London.

 

[xtradj]

So does anyone know what the longer closure in 2018 is for? ie the works taking place?

I see from the pictures the new platforms are being built I guess ready for the end of this three week period. Will the new virgin lounge be open in the upper concourse?

 

[xtradj]

Here is one taken on Saturday afternoon. To be honest they've made photography quite difficult with all the hoardings, and this is the only view I got - P7 being part demolished

That's a lot of work completed in less than 24 hours! Didn't it only close the night before you took the photo?

 

[fowler9]

Does anyone know what is actually being done in the platform 1-6 area? I got a photo at lunchtime on the first day of the closure when a kind member of staff let me through the barrier as far as the concrete walls but of course not much had happened at that point.

 

[KevinTurvey]

That's a lot of work completed in less than 24 hours! Didn't it only close the night before you took the photo?

Most of the work visible to form the new platforms to the right has been ongoing since July? behind another hoarding which has now been partly removed.

Here is another photo from the same location yesterday. The tracks have now gone and they appear to be rebuilding the platform at the same position - I had thought by removing the old siding they were going to widen the platform width?

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Does anyone know what is actually being done in the platform 1-6 area? I got a photo at lunchtime on the first day of the closure when a kind member of staff let me through the barrier as far as the concrete walls but of course not much had happened at that point.

When the station partially reopens tomorrow, I suspect nothing much will have changed for platforms 1-3 as these are the only ones in use.
When this blockade ends I think we will see partial changes to P4-6, notably shortening, to allow throat reconstruction work to continue over the winter.
And then the next blockade will be for reconstruction of P1-6.
Just a guess, maybe quite wrong.
I'll be interested to see if both Slow lines are in use tomorrow, or just the Up line (nearest the wall), and how much track remodelling has taken place.
Unfortunately I won't be able to see it for myself for a week or so.

 

[Loop & Link]

From tomorrow it will be bi-directional working over the Up Slow, between Edge Hill and Lime Street.

 

[fowler9]

When the station partially reopens tomorrow, I suspect nothing much will have changed for platforms 1-3 as these are the only ones in use.
When this blockade ends I think we will see partial changes to P4-6, notably shortening, to allow throat reconstruction work to continue over the winter.
And then the next blockade will be for reconstruction of P1-6.
Just a guess, maybe quite wrong.
I'll be interested to see if both Slow lines are in use tomorrow, or just the Up line (nearest the wall), and how much track remodelling has taken place.
Unfortunately I won't be able to see it for myself for a week or so.

Thanks for that. I'll be popping in after work tomorrow so I'll provide any updates I can. As an aside I live backing on to the railway at West Allerton and the biomass and coal trains have been passing ours along with a lot of the traffic involved in the construction work. It has actually been quite busy 24/7!

 

[8A Rail]

Thanks for that. I'll be popping in after work tomorrow so I'll provide any updates I can. As an aside I live backing on to the railway at West Allerton and the biomass and coal trains have been passing ours along with a lot of the traffic involved in the construction work. It has actually been quite busy 24/7!

Just a minor point, there are no "coal" trains, just "Biomass". They should revert back to the L&M line this week.

 

[mcnw35282]

Well, the wiring over the 4th track went live 90 mins ago...anyone noticed any test trains scheduled?

 

[mcnw35282]

Well, the wiring over the 4th track went live 90 mins ago...anyone noticed any test trains scheduled?

I’m sorry, I just realised I should’ve posted this in the Liv-Man Electrification thread. My apologies.

 

[Polarbear]

As regards future closures of Lime Street, I'm sure I read somewhere that further work will be done over Christmas 2017, Easter 2018, and another blockade at some point next summer (June/July)?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Regarding the Ormskirk/Kirkby trains, I was talking to an OPSTA (Ormskirk to Preston and Southport Travellers Association, the very long running community rail body for the line) person on the line today and he said they were very much an afterthought rather than being deliberately unpublicised.

Loadings were excellent, but only one from Croston this time, it seemed most had been sent that way because of the journey planner.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Regarding the Ormskirk/Kirkby trains, I was talking to an OPSTA (Ormskirk to Preston and Southport Travellers Association, the very long running community rail body for the line) person on the line today and he said they were very much an afterthought rather than being deliberately unpublicised.

Loadings were excellent, but only one from Croston this time, it seemed most had been sent that way because of the journey planner.

I'd expect the Ormskirk to Preston route to play a greater role during future blockades, once it goes hourly and has a 7-day service.