Renting in the Big Smoke

[EM2]

Are their volunteers full-time and living off benefits?

There are some that are (my Grandad was one, his benefits being his state pension and a couple of others, I can't remember what, exactly), there are some that are not.

 

[AlterEgo]

I fully understand that, I'm just saying beware of blanket statements. It's not hard to come up with scenarios where society is better off for someone volunteering while on benefits.

For example, someone who has carer duties which mean they can't hold down a regular job. If they are low-skilled then the tax and NI on their earnings would be less than the cost to the State of providing care for their relative.

To be clear, I am only aiming criticism at those who make an active lifestyle choice to volunteer, rather than those who are forced by circumstance (which I expect is the majority of volunteers).

 

[amateur]

We're going off topic.

Back to the original thread title, is £1,000 pcm "good value for money" or a rip-off or a bargain for London.

To the people on here who RENT in London, how much do you pay pcm. Not interested in those who are paying for a mortgage.

Amateur

 

[DarloRich]

We're going off topic.

Back to the original thread title, is £1,000 pcm "good value for money" or a rip-off or a bargain for London.

To the people on here who RENT in London, how much do you pay pcm. Not interested in those who are paying for a mortgage.

Amateur

as i said in post#26: The average monthly rent paid for new lettings in greater London in July was £1,564

the vfm of the suggested £1000 obviously depends on what you are renting and where

 

[AlterEgo]

We're going off topic.

Back to the original thread title, is £1,000 pcm "good value for money" or a rip-off or a bargain for London.

To the people on here who RENT in London, how much do you pay pcm. Not interested in those who are paying for a mortgage.

Amateur

£1,000 for what? A bedsit in Kilburn or a 2-bed apartment in Pimlico?

 

[EM2]

We're going off topic.

Back to the original thread title, is £1,000 pcm "good value for money" or a rip-off or a bargain for London.

To the people on here who RENT in London, how much do you pay pcm. Not interested in those who are paying for a mortgage.

Amateur

You should be able to get a two-bedroom flat in Zone 4, or the less salubrious areas of Zone 3, for that, but that will only be rent. You might get really lucky and get some utilities or Council tax included for that.

 

[Hornet]

The 'big smoke' in Ireland is Dublin. The average rent costs here are getting to eye watering levels. Just to give you a flavour:-

The average cost of renting a home in the Republic has increased by €134 a month over the last year, with prices in Dublin climbing by substantially more, a new report on the housing market finds.
Figures published by property website Daft.ie show that rents have increased by 13.4 per cent in a year – the second-highest jump on record. It comes as supply across the State hit its lowest level in more than a decade.
The report puts the average monthly rent in the Republic at €1,131, with rents averaging €1,784 on the south side of Dublin city, €1,690 in the city centre and €1,553 north of the Liffey.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...month-as-costs-surge-over-12-months-1.3075896

People are upping sticks and moving to the UK because of the prices. From todays Irish Indo:-

'It's a no-brainer... I'm moving to the UK to escape horrendous rents' - teacher (24)

http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...ape-horrendous-rents-teacher-24-36174156.html

Empty Nesters, (Older people whose children have left home and have spare rooms in their houses), are being encouraged to rent out those rooms by the Government. The upshot is that us 'Empty Nesters', can rent a room/rooms and charge a rental income of up to €14000 per annum, tax free. For older couples with a limited income that is almost manna from heaven, given that the State Pension is over €12000.

 

[Clip]

We're going off topic.

Back to the original thread title, is £1,000 pcm "good value for money" or a rip-off or a bargain for London.

To the people on here who RENT in London, how much do you pay pcm. Not interested in those who are paying for a mortgage.

Amateur

you tell me

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...letType=&letFurnishType=&houseFlatShare=false

 

[EM2]

People are upping sticks and moving to the UK because of the prices.

Why not just move to somewhere like Longford or Leitrim, where rents are about a third of those of inner-city Dublin?

 

[Hornet]

Why not just move to somewhere like Longford or Leitrim, where rents are about a third of those of inner-city Dublin?

Then why don't those complaining about London rents move to Boston in Lincolnshire? Public Transport and car commuting to South or West Dublin from Longford/Leitrim isn't the easiest option, and the jobs market in Dublin is somewhat better than Rural North West Ireland.

 

[EM2]

Then why don't those complaining about London rents move to Boston in Lincolnshire? Public Transport and car commuting to South or West Dublin from Longford/Leitrim isn't the easiest option, and the jobs market in Dublin is somewhat better than Rural North West Ireland.

But we're talking about people moving to the UK from Dublin, so the job market in Dublin and the transport to get there is irrelevant.

 

[RichmondCommu]

So it is nothing to do with work giving you self-esteem. What about people living off inherited wealth so have never needed to work?

No its everything to do with giving something back to society and those organisations that have given me a lot of pleasure over the years. Self esteem comes from the career that I've had and the fact that I've been able to provide for my family.

 

[RichmondCommu]

I see and what about those that aren't well enough to do paid work and therefore are not required to actively seek it? Those I mentioned that aren't actively seeking work fall into that category.

I'm curious to know how someone is well enough to be able to commit to volunteering in for instance a charity shop but not to do paid work in a shop.

 

[GB]

I'm curious to know how someone is well enough to be able to commit to volunteering in for instance a charity shop but not to do paid work in a shop.

Perhaps the volunteer is physically only able to work a couple of hours a week?

 

[najaB]

I'm curious to know how someone is well enough to be able to commit to volunteering in for instance a charity shop but not to do paid work in a shop.

Equally, they may be well but unable to commit to regular hours due to other demands on their time.

 

[ainsworth74]

I'm curious to know how someone is well enough to be able to commit to volunteering in for instance a charity shop but not to do paid work in a shop.

Who said anything about a charity shop? You must surely be aware that there are many other forms of volunteering available to people?

But to address you're point more closely that would be because they only have to do 6 - 8 hours per week over two days (with a day off in between), the environment they are in is very supportive to their needs, if they need a break (no matter how busy everyone else is) then they can take a break whenever it's needed, if they can't make it in one week because of their illness then no one minds and they don't have to worry about 'performance management' as a result of their illness.

So yes they volunteer and do 'work' but they are not fit for work and shouldn't have to actively seek it. To do so would be very detrimental to their health.

You seem to have fixated on paid work being the only way that someone can feel fulfilled? I'm not quite sure why...

 

[radamfi]

No its everything to do with giving something back to society and those organisations that have given me a lot of pleasure over the years. Self esteem comes from the career that I've had and the fact that I've been able to provide for my family.

Suppose you had inherited the amount of money you will have when you retire. Would you still go to work after school or university?

 

[RichmondCommu]

Who said anything about a charity shop? You must surely be aware that there are many other forms of volunteering available to people?

But to address you're point more closely that would be because they only have to do 6 - 8 hours per week over two days (with a day off in between), the environment they are in is very supportive to their needs, if they need a break (no matter how busy everyone else is) then they can take a break whenever it's needed, if they can't make it in one week because of their illness then no one minds and they don't have to worry about 'performance management' as a result of their illness.

So yes they volunteer and do 'work' but they are not fit for work and shouldn't have to actively seek it. To do so would be very detrimental to their health.

You seem to have fixated on paid work being the only way that someone can feel fulfilled? I'm not quite sure why...

Fair enough.

 

[DarloRich]

Who said anything about a charity shop? You must surely be aware that there are many other forms of volunteering available to people?

But to address you're point more closely that would be because they only have to do 6 - 8 hours per week over two days (with a day off in between), the environment they are in is very supportive to their needs, if they need a break (no matter how busy everyone else is) then they can take a break whenever it's needed, if they can't make it in one week because of their illness then no one minds and they don't have to worry about 'performance management' as a result of their illness.

So yes they volunteer and do 'work' but they are not fit for work and shouldn't have to actively seek it. To do so would be very detrimental to their health.

You seem to have fixated on paid work being the only way that someone can feel fulfilled? I'm not quite sure why...

Also worth nothing there is a difference between a volunteer and a "volunteer" forced by benefit rules to work for nothing on behalf of a massive company................

 

[RJ]

We're going off topic.

Back to the original thread title, is £1,000 pcm "good value for money" or a rip-off or a bargain for London.

To the people on here who RENT in London, how much do you pay pcm. Not interested in those who are paying for a mortgage.

Amateur

Approx £1,500 + £300 bills for a new build 2 bedroom pad in Zone 2. Given I live with a good friend I'm surprised there are people paying more for a room in a house with strangers. Granted, if getting a job on a grad scheme in London, it can be challenging if you don't already have roots in the area.

As batchelors, our arrangement works well. I'm 25 minutes from work and have friends living close by - regularly take turns to host dinner nights and shindigs. Hoping that one day I'll have stashed away enough to get my own place...

 

[amateur]

What price do people expect to pay per calendar month, for a decent gaff/room.

What would be your budget or cap?

In terms of salary would 50% going to rent be justifiable

I meant London by the way

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42179119

 

[Mojo]

Approx £1,500 + £300 bills for a new build 2 bedroom pad in Zone 2. Given I live with a good friend I'm surprised there are people paying more for a room in a house with strangers. Granted, if getting a job on a grad scheme in London, it can be challenging if you don't already have roots in the area.

I'm assuming you split that equally between the two of you? If so, should be feasible for two people earning £25k per annum each (according to Listentotaxman.com that equates to just over £1,570 pcm take home, assuming 5% pension contributions and repayments of student loan). That's 47.8% of takehome spent on rent.

 

[RJ]

I'm assuming you split that equally between the two of you? If so, should be feasible for two people earning £25k per annum each (according to Listentotaxman.com that equates to just over £1,570 pcm take home, assuming 5% pension contributions and repayments of student loan). That's 47.8% of takehome spent on rent.

Yes, split. I think as a general rule, I wouldn't want to spend any more than a third of net income on rent and would cap that at £800 as an individual in London with no dependants. Would rather rent in Tolworth or Addington than not be able to save anything!

 

[amateur]

Well I did it.

I bit the bullet. It has been 6 months now! I also have the pleasure of travelling on thameslink trains!

 

[nlogax]

Well I did it.

I bit the bullet. It has been 6 months now!

Welcome!

I also have the pleasure of travelling on thameslink trains!

Oh..my condolences

 

[RJ]

Well I did it.

I bit the bullet. It has been 6 months now. I also have the pleasure of travelling on thameslink trains!

How are you finding it?

 

[amateur]

I love London because it's multicultural and diverse!

Commutewise; obviously everyone expects full and standing, during peak times. You would be a fool to think otherwise.