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What's to happen to the Portobello to Leith docks line? Could that be utillised as a passenger line or is this line under threat of being removed?
I can't ever see that line being used for passengers. The line will remain as the dock is there.What's to happen to the Portobello to Leith docks line? Could that be utillised as a passenger line or is this line under threat of being removed?
The main problem with using it as a passenger line is that the junction faces the wrong way.What's to happen to the Portobello to Leith docks line? Could that be utillised as a passenger line...
The main problem with using it as a passenger line is that the junction faces the wrong way.
What's to happen to the Portobello to Leith docks line? Could that be utillised as a passenger line or is this line under threat of being removed?
Saw this draft image of the QMU masterplan. To me it looks like they will need to build a second platform and/or build a footbridge to the other side of the line at Newcraighall if the development comes to fruition over the next 10 years.
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A second platform at Newcraighall is probable in the next few years as part of the Portobello Junction/South Suburban resignalling works.
Not that I know of. I'd guess it sees a train a dozen times a year.Is the line used much now?
At full moon.Not that I know of. I'd guess it sees a train a dozen times a year.
A local councillor has called on politicians, businesses and trade unions to work together to secure a Levenmouth rail link.
Cllr Colin Davidson wants to set up an action group bringing together various parties in a bid to give more momentum to the Levenmouth Rail Link campaign. The call comes just weeks after it was revealed that the link was not included in the Edinburgh City Region Deal.
Cllr Davidson, who was also this week elected as deputy chair of transport group Sestran, described the news as a huge disappointment and said a group needed to be formed to work out how to take the project forward.
Every option I've seen shows two platforms at Brunstane (currently one) but still just one at Newcraighall.
Yep that is all i have seen too.
Update on new Robroyston station:
https://www.glasgow.gov.uk/councillorsandcommittees/submissiondocuments.asp?submissionid=84571
I don't know the area very well. Is this primarily going to be a park & ride station?
A new bridge over the Clyde is planned, funded by City Deal money. This will provide much of Renfrew with easier access to the rail network as Yoker train station will be closer than Paisley Gilmour St.
Article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-40557021
A new station on the existing freight line at Braehead could cover the rest of the town.
Debate on Levenmouth in which the Transport Minister confirmed that Transport Scotland will take on responsibility for the GRIP 4 study:-
http://www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/report.aspx?r=11109&mode=pdf
I think that's genuinely the best news for the Levenmouth Rail Link I've read in a long while.
Complete 100% support from speakers representing all 5 major political parties, agreement from the Transport Minister to fund the Grip 4 study and I think most importantly Transport Scotland taking responsibility for the study.
This now moves it away from being a local government lobbying Scottish Government issue and into a Scottish Government scheme in co-operation with local government.
I'm much more optimistic that this scheme will now move forward in the next 5 years. Really excellent news.
One or two members asked about the city deal. As they will know, it would be for local authorities to come forward with their priorities for city deal projects. However, there is an opportunity, as Mark Ruskell touched on, with the pipeline approach for control period 6: the 2019 to 2024 control period. The opportunity is subject to funding from the United Kingdom Government, but we have not got that confirmed yet and it is going to and fro between us and the Chief Secretary to the Treasury
I wasn't clear what the Minister meant when he referred to UK Govt funding - any thoughts?
Think its actually in relation to the ongoing funding of Network Rail in Scotland for CP6 and how much will be in the major projects kitty.
Fresh call to resurrect Perth-Edinburgh rail line
Transport chiefs are facing fresh calls to spend hundreds of millions of pounds re-opening a direct rail link between Perth and Edinburgh.
Councillors will be asked next week to push for a resurrection of the old service, which was closed in 1970 to make way for the M90 motorway.
A new link, which could cut journey times by about 35 minutes, would involve building a new station and park and ride service in Kinross.
A survey from 2009 estimated that the line would cost somewhere between £500 million and £1 billion.
A motion will be raised by councillors Calum Purves (Conservative) and Mike Barnacle (independent) at the next full council meeting on Wednesday, calling for officials to write to the Scottish Government asking for a review.
They have pointed out that rail journeys between Perth and Edinburgh are now longer than they were more than a century ago.
Mr Purves said: “There has always been a great deal of support for this in the Kinross-shire area.
“There are a lot of people living here who commute between Perth and Edinburgh, so it would certainly get used. And it would build on Perth’s position as an inter-city transport hub, as well as creating real economic benefits for the area.”
The councillors’ motion calls for “serious consideration” to be given to upgrading rail infrastructure, compared to improvements to the local road network.
Mr Barnacle added: “To me, this is a no brainer. If you can do this in the borders, then they can do it here.
“While I fully support the concept, we would have to be very careful when planning out a route. There has been a lot of development at the old line since it was closed down.”
A recent council policy protects old rail-lines in case they are ever revived.
MSP Liz Smith, who has campaigned for a Perth-Edinburgh link, added: “There is clear public support for this, and I hope that councillors from other parties can join with us in pressuring the Scottish Government to have a serious look at re-opening the link.
“Rail commuters to Perth have been stuck with Victorian era journey times for far too long, it’s time this was reversed and people in Perth and Kinross were brought into the 21st century.”
A Transport Scotland spokeswoman said: “Scotland’s railway network is much larger and busier than it was a century ago, with a greater number of stations, stops and services. Rail is more popular now than ever before with in excess of 96 million journeys made on the Scottish network in 2016 thanks to the Scottish Government’s continued investment.
“Our High Level Output Specification (HLOS) is absolutely clear about the importance of improved journey times and we expect Network Rail to work closely with ScotRail to maximise appropriate opportunities for faster journeys across the network.”
She added: “Through our current £5 billion investment programme, we are committed to on-going transport improvements.
“Indeed, planning for the second Strategic Transport Projects Review has commenced, and this will examine potential strategic transport infrastructure interventions, including new rail lines, required to support the delivery of the government’s economic strategy.”
A spokesman for Network Rail added: “We’re always open to discussing proposals to expand Scotland’s rail network where they meet a clear need and are supported by a clear business case. We currently have no plans for reopening this line.”
Glad to see this has cropped up again, although it's not like anything will become of it, seeing as it's 'calls' and not 'plans' unfortunatley.
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/new...-call-to-resurrect-perth-edinburgh-rail-line/
It's a start that people are talking about it. I'd rather see people talking about it and lobbying for it as a "new line" than a "re-opened line".
There is too much of the old route lost and any business case for the new line will have to be based in providing a much faster journey time than shadowing the old Glenfarg line would likely bring. I think it's unlikely a Halbeath - Bridge of Earn new line would reuse any of the old trackbed.
Given that it was debated at Holyrood in 2013, it seems highly unlikely the proposals would even make it back there unless somebody somewhere can pull a game changer out of the blue that will make this economically viable, rather than something that's nice to have.
The success of the Borders Railway could provide an enhanced case for any route proposal, and this is no exception.
The proposed Dunfermline bypass line along with a reopened Glenfarg route would no doubt improve the Edinburgh to Perth/Inverness journey time by 30 minutes or so but at several hundred million can a business case really be made for at best an hourly service?
You're talking at least 2tph at the quietest of times, and no doubt many more freight services - more than the Borders Railway in both cases....at best an hourly service?